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It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.
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Its all about subversion. The amazing thing about it is that it is happening on a global scale, and its not a coincidence.
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Its all about subversion. The amazing thing about it is that it is happening on a global scale, and its not a coincidence.
The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.
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RichardGrimmer wrote:
Oh hang on a min - you've taken it seriously haven't you!
What! You mean it's not to be taken seriously?
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
What! You mean it's not to be taken seriously?
Reminds me of the line from Mock The Week....all headlines in the Mail (and the Express for that matter) can be replaced with "There's queers, immigrants and terrorist EVERYWHERE....oh if only Diana were here!"...
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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It was done to destroy for ever what it means to be culturally British and to put another 'multicultural' identity in its place. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4cXeETX But the most shattering revelation was that this policy of mass immigration was not introduced to produce nannies or cleaners for the likes of Neather. It was to destroy Britain's identity and transform it into a multicultural society where British attributes would have no greater status than any other country's. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1222977/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-outrageous-truth-slips-Labour-cynically-plotted-transform-entire-make-Britain-telling-us.html#ixzz0V4ckByXM Nope no appealling to lowest common denominator there at all none. Actually the continued alienation of the white working class in England is not due to the immigration it is due to the successive policies of both the conservatives and labour to drive the country to a financial footing which has destroyed the traditional employer of these people the manufacturing base. The immigrants dont help the situation in their willingness to take low paid cash in hand jobs which business loves, pretty much like the Mexican thing in the us. Businiess encourages them to come here so that they can pay low wages and not have to worry about treating their employees properly. Of course this is done through a network of employment agencies so that businesses can deny all knowledge of who they actually employ. If you want to put this theory to the test try to find a cleaner in the city of London whose first language is English.
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There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.
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The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.
The *really* amazing thing is that intellectually dishonest hypocrites like you use that as the excuse for refusing to see the patterns that are there.
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But, has this truth[^] come out in time? By the way, anyone who is actually shocked at what Melanie Phillips is discussing simply hasn't been paying attention (likely refused to). MailOnline: 'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK[^]
Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.
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Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Don't worry, we already know that you're gay.
:rolleyes: You keep hoping, don't you? When you you going to get it into your head that I'm just not interested in anything you have on offer?
Hoping? There's no need to hope when you're so overtly homosexual.
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There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.
The *really* amazing thing is that intellectually dishonest hypocrites like you use that as the excuse for refusing to see the patterns that are there.
Ilíon wrote:
intellectually dishonest
Yawn...rolling that old chestnut out again are we....how predictable
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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There is no such thing as 'business,' just as there is no such thing as 'the government' (or 'society,' for that matter). These are abstractions, they're imaginary persons/actors. It isn't "business" (by which is generally mean *all* businessmen) which is for importing ceap labor, it is *some* businessmen (and these individualstend to be socially and politically "liberal"). And, it isn't "the government" -- that faceless entity which allows decision-makers to avoid proper credit for their decisions -- which is for replacing the people of the weatern nations with "multicultural" aliens (and concurrently teaching those aliens to remain forever alien), it is *some* politicians and bureaucrats and think-tankers and academics and other such who know that they are the annointed elite (and these individuals tend to be socially and politically "liberal"). The problem isn't so much the aliens being imported, it's the "liberals" who wish to destroy our societies, and it's the willfully blind persons who refuse to see what is going on.
There is of course, by your own argument no such thing as liberals. Oh and if your not prepared to talk to people using the recognised and well understood terms of conversation and identification of the social structures that human societies use you should go sit in the corner with the dunces hat on until you're prepared to talk in grown ups language.
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This lady, IMO, is something of an obnoxious individual, but apparently loved by the Americans. See here and, if you wish, follow some of the links http://www.wikio.co.uk/news/Melanie+Phillips[^]
ewwww!!!! I think she just got my brain dirty. :(
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Ilíon wrote:
it's the "liberals"
American Liberalism or British Liberalism, they are not quite the same you know. Am I still No.4 on your list or have I been since promoted or demoted :laugh: :laugh:
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Ilíon: it's the "liberals" Richard A. Abbott: American Liberalism or British Liberalism, they are not quite the same you know.
You even quoted what I wrote ... but, of course, just don't pay attention.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Am I still No.4 on your list or have I been since promoted or demoted :laugh: :laugh:
I don't really take you kiddies seriously enough to expend any effort to remember such things. The numbering was strictly in order of appearance (or, at any rate, of my noticing) of you "community/family" types who were unable to resist posting here even after you'd all flounced off to your private Idaho.
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But, has this truth[^] come out in time? By the way, anyone who is actually shocked at what Melanie Phillips is discussing simply hasn't been paying attention (likely refused to). MailOnline: 'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK[^]
Does anyone know exactly what it is that scares the bejesus out of conservatives when you say the word multicultural? The only possibly relevant point is the overcrowding and unsustainable growth, only, those are touched on less than the 'lying government is gonna take our culture' angle which I'm so familiar with here in the states.
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Ilíon wrote:
intellectually dishonest
Yawn...rolling that old chestnut out again are we....how predictable
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
RichardGrimmer wrote:
Yawn...rolling that old chestnut out again are we....how predictable
Duuude! Even some of the new folks are catching on (all by themselves) that Mr Graus is a hypocrite! Tell you what? Why don't you kiddies do something unexpected? You know, like stopping being intellectually dishonest? If you stop being dishonest, then I'd have no call to point it out, would I?
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There is of course, by your own argument no such thing as liberals. Oh and if your not prepared to talk to people using the recognised and well understood terms of conversation and identification of the social structures that human societies use you should go sit in the corner with the dunces hat on until you're prepared to talk in grown ups language.
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Does anyone know exactly what it is that scares the bejesus out of conservatives when you say the word multicultural? The only possibly relevant point is the overcrowding and unsustainable growth, only, those are touched on less than the 'lying government is gonna take our culture' angle which I'm so familiar with here in the states.
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Distind wrote:
Does anyone know exactly what it is that scares the bejesus out of conservatives when you say the word multicultural?
Does anyone know exactly what it is that that makes "liberals" so comfortable with their heads in the sand?
Ilíon wrote:
Does anyone know exactly what it is that that makes "liberals" so comfortable with their heads in the sand?
Sand? I'm well aware it's there, and generally see it as an acknowledgment of the reality that there isn't a single culture which you can really apply to an entire nation. Perhaps I find it so obvious because it's so pronounced around here, but to assume that there's a 'national culture' is such a weak notion it actually amuses me. Cling to that nationalism, it'll... well, all it's accomplished in the past was war, here's to hoping it fails this time.
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Christian Graus wrote:
The amazing thing is that conspiracy nuts can see patterns where they don't exist.
The *really* amazing thing is that intellectually dishonest hypocrites like you use that as the excuse for refusing to see the patterns that are there.
The human brain likes to find patterns, even where none exist. There are patterns of human behaviour, sure, but that doesn't in any way prove a pattern of *control* or a *plan*, or anything else more sinister than people working for their own agendas.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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RichardGrimmer wrote:
Yawn...rolling that old chestnut out again are we....how predictable
Duuude! Even some of the new folks are catching on (all by themselves) that Mr Graus is a hypocrite! Tell you what? Why don't you kiddies do something unexpected? You know, like stopping being intellectually dishonest? If you stop being dishonest, then I'd have no call to point it out, would I?
Ilíon wrote:
Duuude! Even some of the new folks are catching on (all by themselves) that Mr Graus is a hypocrite!
ROTFL !!!! What new people ? Where ? What have you been smoking ?
Ilíon wrote:
You know, like stopping being intellectually dishonest?
This is the drivel that you spout. You've never given this term a meaningful definition, which is why you're free to keep using it, and pretending that it means something.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.