What's Behind the False Flag Flu Emergency? [UPDATE]
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"When the President formally declares a national emergency, he may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United States citizens."[^] Ron Paul's opinion. (Note that he is a doctor of medicine, he has an MD) [^]
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modified on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:13 PM
So, a gear in the back of my head finally clicked. How in the bloody blazes could the government actions, done in complete public view here, in anyway be called false flag? They aren't pretending to be anyone but themselves, they're doing it right in public, and they're being rather loud about the whole thing. Really big flag, maybe, but I fail to see the false flag.
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Let's see if I have this correct. Because there's at least one MD with an opinion that validates your opinion, you're comfortable with that. Even though there's thousands of other MDs with a contrarian opinion. Good luck with that. :rolleyes:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
Many thousands more back him up on this issue. In fact, over half of doctors and nurses are not getting vaccinated, even when it is compulsory for continued employment.
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So, a gear in the back of my head finally clicked. How in the bloody blazes could the government actions, done in complete public view here, in anyway be called false flag? They aren't pretending to be anyone but themselves, they're doing it right in public, and they're being rather loud about the whole thing. Really big flag, maybe, but I fail to see the false flag.
Well, a false-flag in this context means that the government who is fear-mongering with this flu, is also using it as an excuse to do things that would be unimaginable at any other time.
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Well, a false-flag in this context means that the government who is fear-mongering with this flu, is also using it as an excuse to do things that would be unimaginable at any other time.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
things that would be unimaginable at any other time
Yes, I could never imagine the government rushing the paperwork to help vaccinate people against the flu. That's just a horrible abuse of power, huh? The "false flag" tactic is a valid concept, and has been used before (I tend to associate it most recently with 9/11 leading to Iraq), but this isn't the right situation to which to apply that term. He's not using the fear of the flu in order to push some sort of evil agenda... He's using the fear of the flu to HELP STOP THE FLU. It's perfectly logical, and I don't see any evil agenda at all. Reality check, CSS... Ron Paul and Uncle Alex aren't omniscient or infallible. They're politicians and entertainers, to the degree that it's sometimes difficult to discern which is which. Use your brain, for once.
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Many thousands more back him up on this issue. In fact, over half of doctors and nurses are not getting vaccinated, even when it is compulsory for continued employment.
Given the lack of a major emergency in hiring new doctors and nurses in my area, I call shenanigans. See, like I said in a thread a while back, those who whine the loudest are the first to cave when real pressure is applied. I know a few who were claiming they'd quit their jobs if they were forced to get the vaccine, they're still employed and for some reason are no longer interested in discussing the issue. Must be some form of government mind control!
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Well, a false-flag in this context means that the government who is fear-mongering with this flu, is also using it as an excuse to do things that would be unimaginable at any other time.
That is not what false flag means, or at least not in any conventional use. This would be known as 'blatant scaremongering' or 'public manipulation'. But given they aren't lying about who's doing it, false flag is not the correct term. Sure, it sounds better, better to scare people with, but it's hardly appropriate.
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Given the lack of a major emergency in hiring new doctors and nurses in my area, I call shenanigans. See, like I said in a thread a while back, those who whine the loudest are the first to cave when real pressure is applied. I know a few who were claiming they'd quit their jobs if they were forced to get the vaccine, they're still employed and for some reason are no longer interested in discussing the issue. Must be some form of government mind control!
In New York state-law mandated healthcare workers to get vaccinated against H1N1, they protested, and then a state judge halted enforcement of the mandate. If most of doctors and nurses refuse, even if their jobs are threatened, they will not be fired.
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In New York state-law mandated healthcare workers to get vaccinated against H1N1, they protested, and then a state judge halted enforcement of the mandate. If most of doctors and nurses refuse, even if their jobs are threatened, they will not be fired.
Vaccinations are good. Forced/mandated vaccinations are bad. People like to have a choice. News at 11.
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That is not what false flag means, or at least not in any conventional use. This would be known as 'blatant scaremongering' or 'public manipulation'. But given they aren't lying about who's doing it, false flag is not the correct term. Sure, it sounds better, better to scare people with, but it's hardly appropriate.
Once you understand that this H1N1 crap isn't as serious as they claim, you will realize that the government is doing all of the fear mongering. What they are doing is extremely dangerous, criminal, wrong, and bad.
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In New York state-law mandated healthcare workers to get vaccinated against H1N1, they protested, and then a state judge halted enforcement of the mandate. If most of doctors and nurses refuse, even if their jobs are threatened, they will not be fired.
That just made me laugh that much harder, I was wondering why they didn't want to talk about it. They caved, and then someone took a legal bat to the state and made it so they didn't have to. Most of them would typically be screaming how the government did horrible things to them, it just didn't match up. Now it does.
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Vaccinations are good. Forced/mandated vaccinations are bad. People like to have a choice. News at 11.
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Once you understand that this H1N1 crap isn't as serious as they claim, you will realize that the government is doing all of the fear mongering. What they are doing is extremely dangerous, criminal, wrong, and bad.
Oh no, politicians using fear to accomplish their goals! That is so new it must only be for the new world order. It is certainly not one of two motivations which appeal to the most common denominator that they're aiming at. It's not criminal, it's not dangerous(please, link me to one real source of vaccine based death, ONE, and I will consider this point, and I said real, if the name Alex Jones is anywhere near it, I will laugh at you), and at worst it's misguided.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Forced/mandated vaccinations are bad.
Why exactly? With idiots like CSS running around carrying the disease still it does an excellent job of invalidating the purpose of vaccinations in the first place.
Those who are at risk should get the vaccine - The old, the young, those with underlying conditions, etc... The ones that could potentially die from it. Note that I said "should", not "must"... Strongly suggested, but not government-enforced. If they know they're at risk, but decide to roll the dice anyway, then so be it. I don't think the government should be mandating vaccinations for ANYONE... But that said, developing and distributing the vaccine is perfectly fine. As long as the person being vaccinated (Or their parent/guardian if underage) is given a choice. Personally, I had what I'm pretty sure was the flu a couple months ago, and I fought it off in a couple days. It wasn't pleasant by any stretch (Bit worse than the usual flu, and lasted a bit longer), but at no point did I feel even the need to see a doctor about it.
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