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Ron's career is actually being a doctor. He's not a politician. So i think his career would get a kickstart if all of this worked out actually.
According to his congressional site, he left politics in '84 to practice medicine. He then returned to Congress 12 years ago, ran for President last year and is making noises about running in 2012. Maintaining that his principal profession is MD is disingenuous. (When he did practice his specialty was gynecoloy/obstetrics.) Furthermore, the lead biographical paragraph from his congressional site reads: "Congressman Ron Paul of Texas enjoys a national reputation as the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. Dr. Paul is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives: Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill." I see no mention of medicine there aside from the gratuitous use of 'Dr.'
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According to his congressional site, he left politics in '84 to practice medicine. He then returned to Congress 12 years ago, ran for President last year and is making noises about running in 2012. Maintaining that his principal profession is MD is disingenuous. (When he did practice his specialty was gynecoloy/obstetrics.) Furthermore, the lead biographical paragraph from his congressional site reads: "Congressman Ron Paul of Texas enjoys a national reputation as the premier advocate for liberty in politics today. Dr. Paul is the leading spokesman in Washington for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies based on commodity-backed currency. He is known among both his colleagues in Congress and his constituents for his consistent voting record in the House of Representatives: Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill." I see no mention of medicine there aside from the gratuitous use of 'Dr.'
It doesn't mention much about being a physician because it's his Congressional website. Look outside the box. He went into politics in the seventies after being a physician and realizing the dollar was going down the wrong path, going off the gold standard in 1971. He left in 84, came back and ran for president twice; once in 88 and again in 2008. I bet you didn't know that he ran twice. The website left all of that info out. Do your own research. That was only one website where you got the information.
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It doesn't mention much about being a physician because it's his Congressional website. Look outside the box. He went into politics in the seventies after being a physician and realizing the dollar was going down the wrong path, going off the gold standard in 1971. He left in 84, came back and ran for president twice; once in 88 and again in 2008. I bet you didn't know that he ran twice. The website left all of that info out. Do your own research. That was only one website where you got the information.
josda1000 wrote:
I bet you didn't know that he ran twice.
Big deal. Pat Paulsen ran more than that. You've totally avoided the primary point, which was the rebuttal of your claim that his principal occupation is MD. He is a politician first and foremost. And what's more he's a wingnut discounted by a party of wingnuts. You'll pardon me if I'm not an expert on his career. :rolleyes:
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josda1000 wrote:
I bet you didn't know that he ran twice.
Big deal. Pat Paulsen ran more than that. You've totally avoided the primary point, which was the rebuttal of your claim that his principal occupation is MD. He is a politician first and foremost. And what's more he's a wingnut discounted by a party of wingnuts. You'll pardon me if I'm not an expert on his career. :rolleyes:
LunaticFringe wrote:
he's a wingnut
And so was George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
he's a wingnut
And so was George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
Those people are the same as Lenin, in that when Lenin was dead, Stalin would invoke his name as the preapproval of his policies, even when they went against the things Lenin had said while alive. That you need to invoke their name to justify the people you follow, shows that they cannot stand on their own.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Those people are the same as Lenin, in that when Lenin was dead, Stalin would invoke his name as the preapproval of his policies, even when they went against the things Lenin had said while alive. That you need to invoke their name to justify the people you follow, shows that they cannot stand on their own.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I don't understand how Ron Paul could be considered a wingnut. Obama is a wingnut given its definition. "Wingnut" (sometimes "wing-nut") is used in United States politics as a political epithet referring to a person who holds extreme political views. Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended. If that makes him a wingnut then that also makes Thomas Jefferson and George Washington both wingnuts.
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I don't understand how Ron Paul could be considered a wingnut. Obama is a wingnut given its definition. "Wingnut" (sometimes "wing-nut") is used in United States politics as a political epithet referring to a person who holds extreme political views. Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended. If that makes him a wingnut then that also makes Thomas Jefferson and George Washington both wingnuts.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended. If that makes him a wingnut then that also makes Thomas Jefferson and George Washington both wingnuts.
He's obviously taking on the mantle of George and Thomas to give his agenda weight, but that doesn't mean that he's following their agenda, or even that the founding fathers assumed that through the millenia, the USA would continue to be run in exactly the same way, or that society and the world as a whole would not change.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended. If that makes him a wingnut then that also makes Thomas Jefferson and George Washington both wingnuts.
He's obviously taking on the mantle of George and Thomas to give his agenda weight, but that doesn't mean that he's following their agenda, or even that the founding fathers assumed that through the millenia, the USA would continue to be run in exactly the same way, or that society and the world as a whole would not change.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Throughout history societies have been ran the same way through a variety of standard forms of government.
* Anarchy
* Aristocracy
* Authoritarianism
* Autocracy
* Communist state
* Confederation
* Corporatocracy
* Consociationalism
* Demarchy
* Democracy
o Direct
o Representative
o Consensus
* Despotism
* Dictatorship
o Military/Military junta
* Epistemocracy
* Ethnic democracy
* Ethnocracy
* Exilarchy
* Fascism
* Federation
* Feudalism
* Gerontocracy
* Kleptocracy
* Kratocracy
* Kritocracy/Kritarchy
* Logocracy
* Meritocracy
o Geniocracy
* Minarchism/Night Watchman
* Monarchy
o Absolute
o Constitutional/Limited
o Diarchy/Co-Kingship
* Noocracy
* Ochlocracy/Mobocracy
* Oligarchy
* Panarchism
* Plutocracy
* Puppet state
* Republic
o Crowned
o Capitalist
o Constitutional
o Federal
o Parliamentary
+ Federal
* Socialist state
* Sociocracy
* Technocracy
o Cyberocracy
o Netocracy
* Thalassocracy
* Theocracy
o Islamic state
o Theodemocracy
* Timocracy
* Totalitarianism
* Tribal
o Chiefdom
* TyrannyOurs is intended to be a constitutional republic, where power is decentralized and checked, and all humans are born with unalienable rights including those listed in the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Currently however US is of these forms among others: Puppet state Fascism Corporatocracy Consensus Democracy Oligarchy Aristocracy Socialist state
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Throughout history societies have been ran the same way through a variety of standard forms of government.
* Anarchy
* Aristocracy
* Authoritarianism
* Autocracy
* Communist state
* Confederation
* Corporatocracy
* Consociationalism
* Demarchy
* Democracy
o Direct
o Representative
o Consensus
* Despotism
* Dictatorship
o Military/Military junta
* Epistemocracy
* Ethnic democracy
* Ethnocracy
* Exilarchy
* Fascism
* Federation
* Feudalism
* Gerontocracy
* Kleptocracy
* Kratocracy
* Kritocracy/Kritarchy
* Logocracy
* Meritocracy
o Geniocracy
* Minarchism/Night Watchman
* Monarchy
o Absolute
o Constitutional/Limited
o Diarchy/Co-Kingship
* Noocracy
* Ochlocracy/Mobocracy
* Oligarchy
* Panarchism
* Plutocracy
* Puppet state
* Republic
o Crowned
o Capitalist
o Constitutional
o Federal
o Parliamentary
+ Federal
* Socialist state
* Sociocracy
* Technocracy
o Cyberocracy
o Netocracy
* Thalassocracy
* Theocracy
o Islamic state
o Theodemocracy
* Timocracy
* Totalitarianism
* Tribal
o Chiefdom
* TyrannyOurs is intended to be a constitutional republic, where power is decentralized and checked, and all humans are born with unalienable rights including those listed in the Bill of Rights and Constitution. Currently however US is of these forms among others: Puppet state Fascism Corporatocracy Consensus Democracy Oligarchy Aristocracy Socialist state
Where did you get this list ? It's far from mutually exclusive, and the USA was designed to be several things on this list. Do you know what they all mean ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I don't understand how Ron Paul could be considered a wingnut. Obama is a wingnut given its definition. "Wingnut" (sometimes "wing-nut") is used in United States politics as a political epithet referring to a person who holds extreme political views. Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended. If that makes him a wingnut then that also makes Thomas Jefferson and George Washington both wingnuts.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended.
And ignore any signal, warning or mention of the fact that doing so would undermine most of what has allowed the nation to actually function as a nation rather than a number of petty states.
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Where did you get this list ? It's far from mutually exclusive, and the USA was designed to be several things on this list. Do you know what they all mean ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Ron Paul's mission is to return to a smaller, decentralized, more manageable government that the architects of the constitution intended.
And ignore any signal, warning or mention of the fact that doing so would undermine most of what has allowed the nation to actually function as a nation rather than a number of petty states.
Do you not know the purpose of states? They are to govern in their jurisdiction in the way the people in that jurisdiction see fit. The federal government only has powers enumerated to it buy the constitution. Clearly you are living in the wrong country to believe that the federal government is supreme over states. Read the constitution.
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Do you not know the purpose of states? They are to govern in their jurisdiction in the way the people in that jurisdiction see fit. The federal government only has powers enumerated to it buy the constitution. Clearly you are living in the wrong country to believe that the federal government is supreme over states. Read the constitution.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are to govern in their jurisdiction in the way the people in that jurisdiction see fit.
Note, I already mentioned petty states. Do you fail to see the problems with this when trying to compete with actual nations? Or is it just a willful ignorance thinking that states are somehow more competent than the feds?