What's the agenda
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Christian Graus wrote:
The claim is that the vaccinations kill and maim people
Then why did they even created one? People would have eventually died of H1N1. Instead they should have hired people suffering from H1N1 and paid them to sneeze on others. Would have been a cheaper option IMO.
It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD
d@nish wrote:
People would have eventually died of H1N1
Well, not many. That's kind of the point tho - if they want people to die, and to hide it, this is a dumb way to do it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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That's the way it works with conspiracy theories and paranoia - the more that people debunk it, the more people are part of the conspiracy; the more unbelievable the idea is, the more convincing it is for those who follow it. Come to think of it, the latter part is true of religion too.
Cheers, Vikram. (Cracked not one CCC, but two!)
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
the more that people debunk it, the more people are part of the conspiracy; the more unbelievable the idea is, the more convincing it is for those who follow it.
Yes, that's it. The more it's proven wrong, the more the people doing the proving must be 'in on it'.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I haven't taken the vaccination and don't plan to. I also don't take vaccinations for the ordinary garden variety flu either. I don't guess I understand what the uproar over H1N1 is about. At least the numbers I have seen seem to indicate that the regular flu kills more people each year.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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I haven't taken the vaccination and don't plan to. I also don't take vaccinations for the ordinary garden variety flu either. I don't guess I understand what the uproar over H1N1 is about. At least the numbers I have seen seem to indicate that the regular flu kills more people each year.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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The storm over it appears to be in fears that it's more likely to mutate to something more dangerous than what it is now. But, I agree, right now, I've never had a flu shot and wasn't planning on it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
it's more likely to mutate to something more dangerous
Isn't that likely to make the vaccine useless? :~
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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According to the last figures I saw in the NY Times, the CDC says 5 million people in the US have been infected by H1N1 and 1000 have died. Hardly a cause for panic - a fatality rate of .02%.
Hardly,...
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
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Christian Graus wrote:
it's more likely to mutate to something more dangerous
Isn't that likely to make the vaccine useless? :~
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
The idea is that the vaccine will kill it in it's current form, so it doesn't infect enough people for it to get a chance to mutate. I agree, I think it's probably a storm in a teacup, but I don't think that vaccinations are being pushed on us when they are regarded as unsafe, not to make us autistic and not to kill us.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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d@nish wrote:
People would have eventually died of H1N1
Well, not many. That's kind of the point tho - if they want people to die, and to hide it, this is a dumb way to do it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Obviously it is a dumb way. There are several things we use in our day to day life which is provided by government. Like water supply as you mentioned or electricity etc. They can tamper those for a while to kill everyone. But if they do that, who will they govern? I mean what is the point in doing this? Damn, back to original post. Vicious circle.
It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD
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Obviously it is a dumb way. There are several things we use in our day to day life which is provided by government. Like water supply as you mentioned or electricity etc. They can tamper those for a while to kill everyone. But if they do that, who will they govern? I mean what is the point in doing this? Damn, back to original post. Vicious circle.
It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD
Yes, the fact that there's no reason for them to do it is half the point. the other is, if they wanted to, this would be a dumb way to do it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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This is basically the 'H1N1 vaccinations' forum right now. The claim is that the vaccinations kill and maim people and cause autism. The question I have is, if this is a government conspiracy, as claimed, why does the government want more autistic people to care for ? Why does it want to kill it's citizens, and if it did, couldn't they just put something in our water that would be harder to detect than giving a vaccination where a cause and effect will be clear, because not everyone is getting the shots ? Is there any way that this paranoid conspiracy can be made to make at least some sort of sense ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
What I don't understand is that I can't independently source any of this information that Celia keeps coming out with. I know that I don't exactly have contacts [I mean dinner with PM's and Presidents is nothing] or access to this kind of information [FCO, Treasury, Cabinet Office is the extend of my friends]. Do Google and YouTube really know more than the Civil Servants, Politians and Scientists involved?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
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Christian Graus wrote:
it's more likely to mutate to something more dangerous
Isn't that likely to make the vaccine useless? :~
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit The men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen." Me blog, You read
It depends where the mutation occurs. If the vaccine is aiming the immune system at the front end and the mutation changes the back end you'd still be covered. In practice since the targeting and mutations occur in multiple areas you've still got partial coverage afterwards.
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Yes, the fact that there's no reason for them to do it is half the point. the other is, if they wanted to, this would be a dumb way to do it.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Probably those going gaga over this thing might be able to explain why government is doing this. I guess it is outside the mental ability of us mere mortals.
It's not necessary to be so stupid, either, but people manage it. - Christian Graus, 2009 AD
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What I don't understand is that I can't independently source any of this information that Celia keeps coming out with. I know that I don't exactly have contacts [I mean dinner with PM's and Presidents is nothing] or access to this kind of information [FCO, Treasury, Cabinet Office is the extend of my friends]. Do Google and YouTube really know more than the Civil Servants, Politians and Scientists involved?
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
I see he's refusing to reply, so we may never know.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.