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  • C CaptainSeeSharp

    Your logic is broken.

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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    Distind
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    Not really, so long as you're running around screaming about these things no one has managed to get far enough to consider it worth silencing you. And trust me, if they actually got that far they'd realize how easily such things can be destroyed and would want you silenced.

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Now tell me how that has to shift to stay relevant to today?

      EliottA wrote:

      Failure to realize this ultimate simple truth only enhances your misunderstanding of the constitution itself.

      You should redirect that statement to yourself, you know nothing about the constitution. You probably voted for Obama instead of Ron Paul. You are un-American trash.

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      You should redirect that statement to yourself, you know nothing about the constitution. You probably voted for Obama instead of Ron Paul. You are un-American trash.

      Uh oh! 69,456,897[^] people are Un-American trash!

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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      • D Distind

        Hah, no, what they're doing right now is bending the letters around to fit with modern reality. Anything less would be dooming the nation to irrelevance. That said, I could take every bit of it and use subtle changes in definition to easily turn it into something out of your worst dreams. That's the problem, it's flexible and if someone with malicious intent was really bent on destroying it and actually could, it'd be long gone. I particularly like most of what it says(most of my dislike involves hypocrisy and the father's lack of knowledge of automatic weapons and what major cities would become), but I'm aware it's not set in stone.

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        Distind wrote:

        if someone with malicious intent was really bent on destroying it and actually could, it'd be long gone

        It basically is in the governments eye. The only reason why its still relevant is because the people still hang onto it and demand it be treated as supreme law like its supposed to.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          You should redirect that statement to yourself, you know nothing about the constitution. You probably voted for Obama instead of Ron Paul. You are un-American trash.

          Uh oh! 69,456,897[^] people are Un-American trash!

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          Uh oh! 69,456,897[^] people are Un-American trash!

          Many of those people have realized their mistake and have switched sides.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          • D Distind

            Not really, so long as you're running around screaming about these things no one has managed to get far enough to consider it worth silencing you. And trust me, if they actually got that far they'd realize how easily such things can be destroyed and would want you silenced.

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            Your logic is very broken. People who get the most attention, like Ron Paul or Alex Jones are viciously attacked by the corporate media and sent death threats like you wouldn't believe. Every malicious dirty trick in the book has been used on those guys.

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              You are a fucking moron. Look up the definitions in the English dictionary at the time of writing (which is hardly different than today) and you will know.

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              Distind
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              That is hardly a legally binding definition of terms. That is an interpretation.

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              • D Distind

                That is hardly a legally binding definition of terms. That is an interpretation.

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                CaptainSeeSharp
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                So you want to have all the definitions of the words used in a legal document, and have all of the words in the defintions to be defined, and then have their words defind, and have their words defined, until you have a stack overflow. And the same for interpretations, and interpretations of interepretations, ...stack overflow.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  So you want to have all the definitions of the words used in a legal document, and have all of the words in the defintions to be defined, and then have their words defind, and have their words defined, until you have a stack overflow. And the same for interpretations, and interpretations of interepretations, ...stack overflow.

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                  Not quite no, But what I would want would be at the very least the kind of specification I have to drum up for a piece of software, if something is supposed to be the concrete, unchanging, basis for all law within a nation. Otherwise there is no real end to the room to change things. Here's another question off the top of my head for you, would the founding father's consider Scientology a religion to be protected under the constitution?

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                  • D Distind

                    Not quite no, But what I would want would be at the very least the kind of specification I have to drum up for a piece of software, if something is supposed to be the concrete, unchanging, basis for all law within a nation. Otherwise there is no real end to the room to change things. Here's another question off the top of my head for you, would the founding father's consider Scientology a religion to be protected under the constitution?

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    Distind wrote:

                    Here's another question off the top of my head for you, would the founding father's consider Scientology a religion to be protected under the constitution?

                    If it fits the definition of religion of the 1776 series American dictionary, then yes. Its that simple.

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                    • D Distind

                      Hah, no, what they're doing right now is bending the letters around to fit with modern reality. Anything less would be dooming the nation to irrelevance. That said, I could take every bit of it and use subtle changes in definition to easily turn it into something out of your worst dreams. That's the problem, it's flexible and if someone with malicious intent was really bent on destroying it and actually could, it'd be long gone. I particularly like most of what it says(most of my dislike involves hypocrisy and the father's lack of knowledge of automatic weapons and what major cities would become), but I'm aware it's not set in stone.

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                      Yeah you're right. Because they've used the "general welfare" clause to enact "social security" and medicare and stuff. the general welfare clause was meant to be the general welfare of the united states as a whole, not a particular segment of society (older generation).

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