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  • C Christian Graus

    The books I've read and referenced before, are. So, stop telling these lies, they are ignorant, and you've been made aware of it.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    How about you stop supporting tobacco science (the type of criminally fraudulent "science" that only supports special interest groups such as the tobacco & pharmaceutical industries). How dare you support something that adversely effects massive numbers of people so negatively that it impacts their life most devastatingly.

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      If you were to claim that it's possible for an injection to cause a baby in the womb to become autistic, that's possible, but once you're born, um.... no.

      If the brain is still developing, and you subject it to damage (for instance, injecting a neurotoxin into the blood stream), that can cause the child to develop autism and other mental and nervous system disorders.

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      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

      If the brain is still developing, and you subject it to damage (for instance, injecting a neurotoxin into the blood stream), that can cause the child to develop autism and other mental and nervous system disorders.

      So long as you're talking about in the womb, that is perhaps physically possible. However, I've read a number of books that suggest autism is a type of hyper masculinity of the brain, and either way, once a child is born, you're not going to make them autistic, the brain is developed in that sense. Which makes your statement of 'injecting your children' false.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        How about you stop supporting tobacco science (the type of criminally fraudulent "science" that only supports special interest groups such as the tobacco & pharmaceutical industries). How dare you support something that adversely effects massive numbers of people so negatively that it impacts their life most devastatingly.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        Christian Graus
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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        How dare you support something that adversely effects massive numbers of people so negatively that it impacts their life most devastatingly.

        How do you dare to continue to peddle this drivel, but when several people tried to discuss why you believe the government is going the long way around to deliberately poison people, when it would be easier and less tracable to put something in your water ( apart from the question of their motive ), you fail to post for days in order to avoid the discussion. The first thing any criminal prosecutor will try to do, is prove motive. There's no motive for the government to do the things you claim, you can't provide one. Assuming this stuff is true, why do you think the government is spending a lot of money to inject 'neurotoxins', in effect they are selecting to kill exactly the people who believe their 'propaganda'. Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the sheep and kill wise people like you and your you tube friends, the ones who are on to them ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Christian Graus wrote:

          If you were to claim that it's possible for an injection to cause a baby in the womb to become autistic, that's possible, but once you're born, um.... no.

          If the brain is still developing, and you subject it to damage (for instance, injecting a neurotoxin into the blood stream), that can cause the child to develop autism and other mental and nervous system disorders.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          Lost User
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          Mercury in the environment is a danger. As long as us humans continue to burn coal, or manufacture certain products, there will always be some exposure to, for example, mercury amalgam, chlor-alkali chemicals, thermometers, thermostat switches. Exposure from ingestion of foods found in our environment (Hg in Fish and Hg in High Fructose Corn Syrup), without excluding other possible exposures such as Hg in ambient air. Upon exposure, in a healthy individual with adequate nutrition, metallothionein is expressed and mercury is eliminated from the body. If the individual consumes an unhealthy diet leading to mineral imbalances, especially zinc loss and copper gain, then it is possible that either there will not be enough metallothionein to eliminate the mercury or the metallothionein may not function properly. Mercury Toxicity Model. Figure [^] Reference : Behavioral + Brain Functions : Mercury exposure, nutritional deficiencies and metabolic disruptions may affect learning in children[^] where [quote] Neurons lacking in plasticity are a factor in neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism and mental retardation. [/quote]

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          • C Christian Graus

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            If the brain is still developing, and you subject it to damage (for instance, injecting a neurotoxin into the blood stream), that can cause the child to develop autism and other mental and nervous system disorders.

            So long as you're talking about in the womb, that is perhaps physically possible. However, I've read a number of books that suggest autism is a type of hyper masculinity of the brain, and either way, once a child is born, you're not going to make them autistic, the brain is developed in that sense. Which makes your statement of 'injecting your children' false.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            You are a damn fool. You need to go inject yourself with a vile full of mercury. Fill us in on the results. I except to see:

            duugug'[drool]

            or nothing at all ever again.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              You are a damn fool. You need to go inject yourself with a vile full of mercury. Fill us in on the results. I except to see:

              duugug'[drool]

              or nothing at all ever again.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              Christian Graus
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              Assuming I was dumb enough to inject myself with a vial FULL of mercury, as opposed to the small amount in a vaccine, I am sure it would do me harm. My point is entirely that it would not be possible for it to make me autistic. I note you still can't answer the motive question. I should do some research and see how much mercury the average american eats a year through eating fish, and compare that to the amount in the vaccine.

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                You are a damn fool. You need to go inject yourself with a vile full of mercury. Fill us in on the results. I except to see:

                duugug'[drool]

                or nothing at all ever again.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Autism, try debunking these authoritative sources ... Autism genetic database (AGD): a comprehensive database including autism susceptibility gene-CNVs integrated with known noncoding RNAs and fragile sites[^] http://wren.bcf.ku.edu/[^] Defective oxytocin function: a clue to understanding the cause of autism?[^] Let me know Henize if you require further references. I have ready a further 400+ for you, just on Autism, all from authoritative sources.

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                  Mercury in the environment is a danger. As long as us humans continue to burn coal, or manufacture certain products, there will always be some exposure to, for example, mercury amalgam, chlor-alkali chemicals, thermometers, thermostat switches. Exposure from ingestion of foods found in our environment (Hg in Fish and Hg in High Fructose Corn Syrup), without excluding other possible exposures such as Hg in ambient air. Upon exposure, in a healthy individual with adequate nutrition, metallothionein is expressed and mercury is eliminated from the body. If the individual consumes an unhealthy diet leading to mineral imbalances, especially zinc loss and copper gain, then it is possible that either there will not be enough metallothionein to eliminate the mercury or the metallothionein may not function properly. Mercury Toxicity Model. Figure [^] Reference : Behavioral + Brain Functions : Mercury exposure, nutritional deficiencies and metabolic disruptions may affect learning in children[^] where [quote] Neurons lacking in plasticity are a factor in neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism and mental retardation. [/quote]

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  Hg in High Fructose Corn Syrup

                  Really ? how much is in, for example, a can of Coke ? How does it compare to the levels in fish, and in vaccines ?

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Autism, try debunking these authoritative sources ... Autism genetic database (AGD): a comprehensive database including autism susceptibility gene-CNVs integrated with known noncoding RNAs and fragile sites[^] http://wren.bcf.ku.edu/[^] Defective oxytocin function: a clue to understanding the cause of autism?[^] Let me know Henize if you require further references. I have ready a further 400+ for you, just on Autism, all from authoritative sources.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Do you have any on youtube ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Assuming I was dumb enough to inject myself with a vial FULL of mercury, as opposed to the small amount in a vaccine, I am sure it would do me harm. My point is entirely that it would not be possible for it to make me autistic. I note you still can't answer the motive question. I should do some research and see how much mercury the average american eats a year through eating fish, and compare that to the amount in the vaccine.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      My point is entirely that it would not be possible for it to make me autistic.

                      But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic. END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Do you have any on youtube ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        I will soon rectify that. Now where did I put my video camera ? :laugh: I wonder if Alex Jones is a wealthy bloke? If so, I think I might start some of my own conspiracy stories and have idiots* subscribe to them ;P * I wonder who might fit that particular bill :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          Hg in High Fructose Corn Syrup

                          Really ? how much is in, for example, a can of Coke ? How does it compare to the levels in fish, and in vaccines ?

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          From my reference, this table gives a clue for California Net Growth in Persons Diagnosed with Autistic Spectrum Disorders, CA Per Capita Consumption of High Fructose Corn Syrup, US, 1987-2006[^] However, you might find this interesting (from same reference) [quote] With regard to total mercury exposure, the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) recommends an exposure limit of 1 ppm for mercury in their 2005 Evaluation of Food Additives report [142]. This report does not specifically address the mercury content in the food color additives tartrazine also known as FD&C Yellow 5 or sunset yellow also known as FD&C Yellow 6 but these chemicals are manufactured with the chlor-alkali product "hydrogen chloride" and may not contain more than 1 ppm mercury according to US Food and Drug Administration regulations [143]. In addition to causing zinc deficiency, both of these food color additives have been linked to hyperactivity in children [71] and the United Kingdom has asked manufacturers to voluntarily ban their use in food products [144]. [/quote] Note those ingredients found in certain "children's" soft drinks

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                            I will soon rectify that. Now where did I put my video camera ? :laugh: I wonder if Alex Jones is a wealthy bloke? If so, I think I might start some of my own conspiracy stories and have idiots* subscribe to them ;P * I wonder who might fit that particular bill :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                            Christian Graus
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                            It's good to have a business plan.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              My point is entirely that it would not be possible for it to make me autistic.

                              But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic. END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              Christian Graus
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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic

                              Two people who have researched this are telling you this is a lie.

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              . END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

                              Is that the same as 'please don't confuse me with facts' ? You're wrong. Your idiot leader is wrong. This is a pile of ignorance.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                From my reference, this table gives a clue for California Net Growth in Persons Diagnosed with Autistic Spectrum Disorders, CA Per Capita Consumption of High Fructose Corn Syrup, US, 1987-2006[^] However, you might find this interesting (from same reference) [quote] With regard to total mercury exposure, the Joint Expert Committee on Food Additives (JECFA) recommends an exposure limit of 1 ppm for mercury in their 2005 Evaluation of Food Additives report [142]. This report does not specifically address the mercury content in the food color additives tartrazine also known as FD&C Yellow 5 or sunset yellow also known as FD&C Yellow 6 but these chemicals are manufactured with the chlor-alkali product "hydrogen chloride" and may not contain more than 1 ppm mercury according to US Food and Drug Administration regulations [143]. In addition to causing zinc deficiency, both of these food color additives have been linked to hyperactivity in children [71] and the United Kingdom has asked manufacturers to voluntarily ban their use in food products [144]. [/quote] Note those ingredients found in certain "children's" soft drinks

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                                Christian Graus
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                                I don't get why you guys use this crap so much. Is it because you don't grow any sugar ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  I don't get why you guys use this crap so much. Is it because you don't grow any sugar ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  There is sugar and there is sugar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup[^] (please see my modified post, above) Out of interest ... washingtonpost.com : Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury[^]

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    But it is possible to damage a developing mind to where that person becomes autistic

                                    Two people who have researched this are telling you this is a lie.

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    . END OF DISCUSSION> PERIOD!

                                    Is that the same as 'please don't confuse me with facts' ? You're wrong. Your idiot leader is wrong. This is a pile of ignorance.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

                                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                      Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

                                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

                                      As usual, you over simplify. I'd have thought that no-one would trust anyone who tells lies in grainy you tube videos and yet... Mercury IS harmful, if you have enough of it. As I point out above, there's more in fish than there is in a vaccine. And you eat fish more often. Either way, mercury being harmful does not mean it causes autism. And you still haven't answered the motive question.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        There is sugar and there is sugar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup[^] (please see my modified post, above) Out of interest ... washingtonpost.com : Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury[^]

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        I know it's essentially sugar, the question is, why source it from corn ? Is it even an efficient way to end up with sugar ? I know corn is an inefficient source of biofuel, precisely because of the cost of turning it to sugar.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Nobody will trust anyone who sides with and supports a corrupt tyrannical government, or states that mercury isn't harmful. Its that simple.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                          NOBODY has stated that mercury is anything but dangerous. But it is EVERYWHERE including (all be it in very small amounts) the cough syrup you are so fond of drinking. And government isn't responsible for the cough syrup you drink, YOU are alone responsible for deciding to consume that substance.

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