The Oath Keepers
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Its going to get publicity whether you like it or not.
Of course it is. Because, it's amusing. They are retards, as has been said, they publically promise to do their job, the point being some sort of implication that without them, cops and soldiers would run riot. It's BS. Why did you stop responding to my posts yesterday ? Truth hurt ? STILL willing to pay for that psych evaluation.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Well said.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
You're putting words in his mouth. I think he can speak for himself.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
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This is a drive to put Oath Keepers educational care packages into the hands of active duty military. This drive runs from Veterans Day, November 11, 2009, to Bill of Rights Day, December 15, 2009, honoring both those who served, and what they defended. Tyranny cannot come to America if our military members refuse unconstitutional orders. We must remind them that their oath is to the Constitution, not to any politician or party; we must teach them about the Constitution that they swore to defend; and we must reinforce their resolve to keep that oath. If we reach enough of them, it is game over for any attempt to destroy this Republic. Whether we reach enough of them will depend on what you do. Why This Mission is So Vital: Like ripples in a pond, you never know what the ultimate effect of each care package will have. Even one could lead to a whole company or battalion being good-to-go on their oath. But the more packages we get out there the faster the message of the oath will go viral, spreading far and wide, which is exactly what the enemies of this Republic don't want (which tells you precisely what needs to happen!). Make no mistake, the enemies of our Republic do not want the brave men and women in our military to understand the Constitution, their oath, or their obligation to refuse unconstitutional and unlawful orders. Would-be tyrants prefer blind obedience. The Founders understood this, which is exactly why they made the oath to the Constitution, not to any man or office, and why they put the oath requirement right in the Constitution itself. The oath is like kryptonite to tyrants, as the Founders intended. The time has come for us to use it to its full effect.[^]
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Michael Moore is a moron.
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You're putting words in his mouth. I think he can speak for himself.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Developer, Author (Guardians of Xen)
He is only allowed to say what his commanders allow him or command him to say.
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Michael Moore is a moron.
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He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
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He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
Well lets think about it, he has a message to push as do you. How many people world wide know your name or have heard your message? Same goes for Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US and even then probably largely unknown outside of the moronic conspiracy theory circles. My point is not a value judgment of his message but of his ability to have it heard. Anyway what you think of him is unimportant. My point was about these oath keepers being comparable in some sense to the Michigan militia as presented in his film.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He may be intelligent by your standards, but he is a moron by any other standard.
Well lets think about it, he has a message to push as do you. How many people world wide know your name or have heard your message? Same goes for Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US and even then probably largely unknown outside of the moronic conspiracy theory circles. My point is not a value judgment of his message but of his ability to have it heard. Anyway what you think of him is unimportant. My point was about these oath keepers being comparable in some sense to the Michigan militia as presented in his film.
Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
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Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
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Josh Gray wrote:
he has a message to push as do you.
Not by a long shot. Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
Josh Gray wrote:
Alex Jones, I suspect he's unheard of outside of the US
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states. When he held a contest for the best video entry of people putting up obama joker posters, people from all over the world (japan, europe, austraila, canada, mexico) went wild at it. He has a large and diverse listener base, and an ever larger and more diverse set of regulars who visit his websites, and EVEN LARGER number of people who have watched his documentaries. Besides, it isn't the number of people who listen to him, its what he says. Listen to his show right now. http://www.infowars.com/infowars.asx[^] He had Webster Tarply on today, you will hear him in the last hour. Tarply has a PhD in economics and a PhD in history. His show isn't about conspiracy theories its about fact and reality.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
That is not the point. the point is, who knows about your 'message' apart from some geeks who enjoy laughing at it ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states.
In the same way that I am well known. I know a lot of people, for one person, in a lot of different places. But, I am hardly famous. So 2 people in Japan and one in Zimbabe have heard of him. He's still obscure, like his crackpot theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He is only allowed to say what his commanders allow him or command him to say.
Then how can you judge him on his words ? I do love how little girly men like you, who are scared to even leave the house, judge the actions of someone brave enough to put themselves in harms way for your benefit. Right or wrong, they have more balls than you or I and neither of us has the right to second guess them without ever walking in their shoes
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Mine and moron's messages are as different as night and day.
That is not the point. the point is, who knows about your 'message' apart from some geeks who enjoy laughing at it ?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Alex Jones is known well outside of the states.
In the same way that I am well known. I know a lot of people, for one person, in a lot of different places. But, I am hardly famous. So 2 people in Japan and one in Zimbabe have heard of him. He's still obscure, like his crackpot theories.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
some geeks who enjoy laughing
HEY... I resemble that remark!
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Christian Graus wrote:
some geeks who enjoy laughing
HEY... I resemble that remark!
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! Booger Mobile (n) - A bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - our entry into the Camp Quality esCarpade!! Do something wonderful - make a donation to Camp Quality today!!
*grin* boring here in the QANTAS lounge.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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*grin* boring here in the QANTAS lounge.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Yeah, figured it must be... at least you can kick back and relax for a few hours on your flight... depending on whether you sleep on planes or not I guess... Personally I never sleep when I'm travelling, much to the delight of my passengers!! rofl...
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Yeah, figured it must be... at least you can kick back and relax for a few hours on your flight... depending on whether you sleep on planes or not I guess... Personally I never sleep when I'm travelling, much to the delight of my passengers!! rofl...
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I take Melatonin, and I always get a few hours. I've actually gone business and still only got 3, but 6 is probably the most I'll get in economy ( and that would be a real achievement )
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
"ragnaroknrol is dishonerable..." Assuming this was true, I assume he is at least not as dumb as toast, and can spell.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He doesn't even know what he is talking about. He is saying that if he had a gun pointed to his head he would do as he is told no matter what to stay alive regardless of the consequences. He is not an honorable soldier.
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Or he could be pointing out that given the choice between disarming a militia and letting them kill civilians, there's a clear cut choice that you would refuse to make under that oath. And a 25% failure rate for basic human decency seems about right.
Let's not forget the good old "Looters will be shot on sight" concept especially if The Big One was to visit LA or SF. I'm sure that Governor Arnie wouldn't hesitate one moment to give such an instruction irrespective of the opinion or commitment of those "Oath Keepers". Law and order will be maintained.