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  • H HimanshuJoshi

    Ilíon wrote:

    The Ghandi no one knows[^]

    If you can't spell his last name correctly (It is Gandhi, not Ghandi); you have no rights to comment on him :mad:

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    What's your opinion on what's recounted here?[^]

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      The Gandhi no one knows[^]

      modified on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:52 PM

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      Ilíon wrote:

      The Gandhi no one knows

      The Gandhi Nobody Knows? How presumptuous of Mr Richard Grenier. But what else would one expect from an elitist intellectual? However, snarkiness aside, I have to thank you for posting it, as it is an interesting read (still reading), and all antidotes to 'greatness' are welcome.

      Bob Emmett

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        Ilíon wrote:

        The Gandhi no one knows

        The Gandhi Nobody Knows? How presumptuous of Mr Richard Grenier. But what else would one expect from an elitist intellectual? However, snarkiness aside, I have to thank you for posting it, as it is an interesting read (still reading), and all antidotes to 'greatness' are welcome.

        Bob Emmett

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        Simply put, anyone who someone labels great, is generally someone they only know half the story about. Some people do great things, but I know of very few great people.

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          Simply put, anyone who someone labels great, is generally someone they only know half the story about. Some people do great things, but I know of very few great people.

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          How do you separate great deeds from a great person? Or, in other words, the deed from the character?

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            Ilíon wrote:

            The Gandhi no one knows

            The Gandhi Nobody Knows? How presumptuous of Mr Richard Grenier. But what else would one expect from an elitist intellectual? However, snarkiness aside, I have to thank you for posting it, as it is an interesting read (still reading), and all antidotes to 'greatness' are welcome.

            Bob Emmett

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            Ilion
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            I try to avoid using the word 'nobody' (except for effect) -- it has always struck me as the word kindergartners, and ill-educated adults, use in place of 'no one.'

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              How do you separate great deeds from a great person? Or, in other words, the deed from the character?

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              Stalin and Hitler and Mao also did great deeds; they had great impacts upon history and upon the lives of many individual human beaings. They were, definitionally, "Great Men."

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                How do you separate great deeds from a great person? Or, in other words, the deed from the character?

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                The deed is the legacy, the character is who they actually were. These are generally fairly different things, and I generally require someone be a decent person before I consider them to be great. Some maniacal backstabbing money hungry idiot may manage to create a corporate empire, do something great, but at the end of the day they aren't even a decent person.

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                  I try to avoid using the word 'nobody' (except for effect) -- it has always struck me as the word kindergartners, and ill-educated adults, use in place of 'no one.'

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                  Ilíon wrote:

                  I try to avoid using the word 'nobody' (except for effect) -- it has always struck me as the word kindergartners, and ill-educated adults, use in place of 'no one.'

                  Title: The Gandhi Nobody Knows Author: Richard Grenier Hardcover: 118 pages Publisher: Thomas Nelson Publishers (Jul 1983) ISBN-10: 0840753799 ISBN-13: 978-0840753793 I was merely quoting the title of your link, which is also the title of the published work. The word was emphasised because I thought it presumptuous of him to assume that nobody or no one, other than he, knew these details.

                  Bob Emmett Objectives: Total Domination of the World (postponed until 2018).

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                    Ilíon wrote:

                    I try to avoid using the word 'nobody' (except for effect) -- it has always struck me as the word kindergartners, and ill-educated adults, use in place of 'no one.'

                    Title: The Gandhi Nobody Knows Author: Richard Grenier Hardcover: 118 pages Publisher: Thomas Nelson Publishers (Jul 1983) ISBN-10: 0840753799 ISBN-13: 978-0840753793 I was merely quoting the title of your link, which is also the title of the published work. The word was emphasised because I thought it presumptuous of him to assume that nobody or no one, other than he, knew these details.

                    Bob Emmett Objectives: Total Domination of the World (postponed until 2018).

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                    Bob Emmett wrote:

                    The word was emphasised because I thought it presumptuous of him to assume that nobody or no one, other than he, knew these details.

                    Please! it's a common trope to use "nobody" or "no one" in this manner ... he's contrasting (what he claims to be) the truth with "what everyone knows" (and which happens to be a pious myth).

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                      Bob Emmett wrote:

                      The word was emphasised because I thought it presumptuous of him to assume that nobody or no one, other than he, knew these details.

                      Please! it's a common trope to use "nobody" or "no one" in this manner ... he's contrasting (what he claims to be) the truth with "what everyone knows" (and which happens to be a pious myth).

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                      Ilíon wrote:

                      it's a common trope to use "nobody" or "no one" in this manner

                      True, probably the choice of his publisher, then. I am surprised the well educated Mr G permitted 'nobody' in the title.

                      Bob Emmett

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