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  • C Christian Graus

    Well, apparently not. I mean, the two possibilities are: 1 - the system failed 2 - the whole thing was orchestrated by your government, quite brilliantly, and yet in ways that caused people with access to youtube to be able to prove the lie. And, despite killing 3000+ people in cold blood, your government is now not willing to kill the one or two people who are exposing their actions. Heard of Occam's razor at all ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    False flags never happen? :rolleyes: Perhaps some hard-evidence is needed. Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington". http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf[^]

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      False flags never happen? :rolleyes: Perhaps some hard-evidence is needed. Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington". http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf[^]

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      Ian Shlasko
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      Logical fallacy. You're using the claim that something may have happened in the past, to imply that it DID happen in this instance.

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        Logical fallacy. You're using the claim that something may have happened in the past, to imply that it DID happen in this instance.

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        You are a fallacy. You are incapable of thought. The government cares about people.[^]

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          You are a fallacy. You are incapable of thought. The government cares about people.[^]

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          Ian Shlasko
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          And you fail yet again. Seriously, take Christian up on his offer... You need help.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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          • I Ian Shlasko

            And you fail yet again. Seriously, take Christian up on his offer... You need help.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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            No you need help to pull your head out of your ass. It astounds me how pathetic and weak minded people can be.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              No you need help to pull your head out of your ass. It astounds me how pathetic and weak minded people can be.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              It astounds me how pathetic and weak minded people can be.

              And now you know how we feel.

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              • I Ian Shlasko

                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                It astounds me how pathetic and weak minded people can be.

                And now you know how we feel.

                Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                And now you know how we feel.

                You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world. I bet you never stop to think about the world you live in from the point of view of a conscious sentient life-form on a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

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                  You are a fallacy. You are incapable of thought. The government cares about people.[^]

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                  Christian Graus
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                  This is what you do. People point out the flaws in your 'logic', so you insult them. You obviously have no actual comeback. That something happened in the past, does not prove it happened in this instance. It does not disprove it either, it simply remains that you have no evidence to support your claims.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    Could be worse... *cough*L.Ron Hubbard*cough*

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Well, at least he was successful in pulling off his scam.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      This is what you do. People point out the flaws in your 'logic', so you insult them. You obviously have no actual comeback. That something happened in the past, does not prove it happened in this instance. It does not disprove it either, it simply remains that you have no evidence to support your claims.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      My logic is perfectly sound. The evidence stands. Proof that the United States government is willing to commit acts of terrorism on its own people as a pretext for a war based on a lie.[^]

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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        And now you know how we feel.

                        You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world. I bet you never stop to think about the world you live in from the point of view of a conscious sentient life-form on a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        ...a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

                        Which is in turn swinging around an exponentially more massive object, very likely an immense black hole... Yes, astronomy is fun, but we're talking about logic, and your inability to follow it.

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                          My logic is perfectly sound. The evidence stands. Proof that the United States government is willing to commit acts of terrorism on its own people as a pretext for a war based on a lie.[^]

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                          Christian Graus
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                          The obvious flaw in your logic was pointed out and you resorted to insults as you had no effective reply.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            ...a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

                            Which is in turn swinging around an exponentially more massive object, very likely an immense black hole... Yes, astronomy is fun, but we're talking about logic, and your inability to follow it.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                            Christian Graus
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                            But he knows some random science facts, so he MUST be right about the conspiracy stuff !!!

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Treasonous Traitor?

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                              Mindless babble rather than addressing the point?

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                The obvious flaw in your logic was pointed out and you resorted to insults as you had no effective reply.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                :laugh: dream on.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  And what you tube video did you get that from ( and why do you think it makes you look smart ) ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  why do you think it makes you look smart

                                  It doesn't, it deflects the conversation away from his screwup and toward his screwed up beliefs. See this one a lot with various fundamentalists who get caught being stupid. They're much more comfortable discussing their beliefs than their faults.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    Well, at least he was successful in pulling off his scam.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Ian Shlasko
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                                    Too successful... I haven't seen their tables in a while, but I decided that whenever I walk past one of them, I'm going to yell "Hail Xenu[^]!" just to annoy them. I was going to let them rope me into a stress test, just so I could waste their time and THEN make them feel really stupid, but I decided it's not worth the effort. (Don't know if they do it in your area, but here in NYC, they set up these tables in touristy areas like Times Square and Grand Central Terminal, offering "free stress tests," during which they inevitably find you to be stressed and depressed, and offer to "help")

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                                      Mindless babble rather than addressing the point?

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                                      COLD HARD FACTS: Proof that the United States government is willing to commit acts of terrorism on its own people as a pretext for a war based on a lie[^]

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        But he knows some random science facts, so he MUST be right about the conspiracy stuff !!!

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Yep, that's about as logically sound as his arguments :)

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                                          :laugh: dream on.

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                                          Dalek Dave
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                                          When your pizza runs out you insult people. Go get some Mojo. And an education.

                                          ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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