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  • C Christian Graus

    And what you tube video did you get that from ( and why do you think it makes you look smart ) ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Distind
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    why do you think it makes you look smart

    It doesn't, it deflects the conversation away from his screwup and toward his screwed up beliefs. See this one a lot with various fundamentalists who get caught being stupid. They're much more comfortable discussing their beliefs than their faults.

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      But he knows some random science facts, so he MUST be right about the conspiracy stuff !!!

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Ian Shlasko
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      Yep, that's about as logically sound as his arguments :)

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        :laugh: dream on.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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        Dalek Dave
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        When your pizza runs out you insult people. Go get some Mojo. And an education.

        ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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        • C Christian Graus

          yes, you can. If you're ready for it.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Or if you actually know where it is. Sure, we could have just started shooting at airliners, but I think we'd rather know which was the right one. Though I love how people assume our air traffic control system was setup for anything but the standard operating procedure and could get any plane's ID and location immediately. We're probably closer now, but from what I've seen we were mostly monitoring high traffic areas(airports specifically), and for foreign planes heading our way that we didn't anticipate.

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            When your pizza runs out you insult people. Go get some Mojo. And an education.

            ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            You are lost, the bottle of alcohol is to your left.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              COLD HARD FACTS: Proof that the United States government is willing to commit acts of terrorism on its own people as a pretext for a war based on a lie[^]

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              I've known about that for ages, was it executed? By now the majority of people involved with the plan have been replaced correct? If so, do we know this monolithic entity known as the government is still willing to consider such a thing? Frankly, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they'd consider it, but the backlash which would occur if real evidence ever surfaced would make the truthers look like a little speck of agitation. Get some real evidence and we can talk.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                And now you know how we feel.

                You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world. I bet you never stop to think about the world you live in from the point of view of a conscious sentient life-form on a giant ball of mass hurdling through space caught in the gravity of a super massive nuclear fusion reactor.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world

                And how many children have you got? Have you spent a consioderably time with a child recently? The last thing a small child is going to do is beleive something just because it's on youtube. there is a 'great' game that kids play called 'why'. When the mood takes they will ask 'why?' to any statement and why to the answer and so on. The reason for this behaviour is their inherent open minded approach to life. They are yet to be conditioned into mindtraps [a concept above you, go google if you want to try and understand.] that prevent them from asking the questions. As we go through life, more and more answers are presented and we begin to adjust our minds to see the underlying answers to most, not all, behaviour. This is the reason that when presented with events outside our mental framework, adults will ask the question 'Why?'. The question I ask you is 'Why do you believe there is a conspiracy?' Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism.


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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world

                  And how many children have you got? Have you spent a consioderably time with a child recently? The last thing a small child is going to do is beleive something just because it's on youtube. there is a 'great' game that kids play called 'why'. When the mood takes they will ask 'why?' to any statement and why to the answer and so on. The reason for this behaviour is their inherent open minded approach to life. They are yet to be conditioned into mindtraps [a concept above you, go google if you want to try and understand.] that prevent them from asking the questions. As we go through life, more and more answers are presented and we begin to adjust our minds to see the underlying answers to most, not all, behaviour. This is the reason that when presented with events outside our mental framework, adults will ask the question 'Why?'. The question I ask you is 'Why do you believe there is a conspiracy?' Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism.


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Well said!

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                    You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world

                    And how many children have you got? Have you spent a consioderably time with a child recently? The last thing a small child is going to do is beleive something just because it's on youtube. there is a 'great' game that kids play called 'why'. When the mood takes they will ask 'why?' to any statement and why to the answer and so on. The reason for this behaviour is their inherent open minded approach to life. They are yet to be conditioned into mindtraps [a concept above you, go google if you want to try and understand.] that prevent them from asking the questions. As we go through life, more and more answers are presented and we begin to adjust our minds to see the underlying answers to most, not all, behaviour. This is the reason that when presented with events outside our mental framework, adults will ask the question 'Why?'. The question I ask you is 'Why do you believe there is a conspiracy?' Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism.


                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    Here is one, just one, there are many more, but look up climate-gate.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                    • D Distind

                      I've known about that for ages, was it executed? By now the majority of people involved with the plan have been replaced correct? If so, do we know this monolithic entity known as the government is still willing to consider such a thing? Frankly, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they'd consider it, but the backlash which would occur if real evidence ever surfaced would make the truthers look like a little speck of agitation. Get some real evidence and we can talk.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPGuSEoQo0[^]

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        You feel very small minded I'm sure, like how a small child views the world

                        And how many children have you got? Have you spent a consioderably time with a child recently? The last thing a small child is going to do is beleive something just because it's on youtube. there is a 'great' game that kids play called 'why'. When the mood takes they will ask 'why?' to any statement and why to the answer and so on. The reason for this behaviour is their inherent open minded approach to life. They are yet to be conditioned into mindtraps [a concept above you, go google if you want to try and understand.] that prevent them from asking the questions. As we go through life, more and more answers are presented and we begin to adjust our minds to see the underlying answers to most, not all, behaviour. This is the reason that when presented with events outside our mental framework, adults will ask the question 'Why?'. The question I ask you is 'Why do you believe there is a conspiracy?' Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism.


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        Conspiracy...[^]

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPGuSEoQo0[^]

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                          So this was a false flag video made by the government to make a segment of people look like drooling idiots?

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                          • C CaptainSeeSharp

                            You are lost, the bottle of alcohol is to your left.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            No, My large salary cheque is to my left, the bottle is in front of me. Now, hurry up with those pizzas Mr Thickie!

                            ------------------------------------ In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. Stephen J Gould

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              Conspiracy...[^]

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              You are stupid, you really are:

                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism

                              And your link

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              Conspiracy...[^]

                              Can you read? Do you understand what you read?


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                You are stupid, you really are:

                                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                                Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism

                                And your link

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                Conspiracy...[^]

                                Can you read? Do you understand what you read?


                                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                Look up climate-gate.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Look up climate-gate.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  Look up the phrase "in your own words" Fail.

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                    Look up climate-gate.

                                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                    Nagy Vilmos
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                                    Nagy_Vilmos wrote:

                                    You are stupid, you really are: Nagy Vilmos wrote: Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism And your link CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Conspiracy...[^] Can you read? Do you understand what you read?

                                    And again, you reply:

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    Look up climate-gate.

                                    Please, construct a sentence. Answer the original question. A link to support your opinon is fine; but not in place of it.


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      Nagy_Vilmos wrote:

                                      You are stupid, you really are: Nagy Vilmos wrote: Give me one point, in your own words that is supported by any accredited news organisation. Linking to youtube will be an admision of your bordline autism And your link CaptainSeeSharp wrote: Conspiracy...[^] Can you read? Do you understand what you read?

                                      And again, you reply:

                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      Look up climate-gate.

                                      Please, construct a sentence. Answer the original question. A link to support your opinon is fine; but not in place of it.


                                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                      ragnaroknrol
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                                      Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                                        Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                        Why are you bothering?

                                        Practice. No matter what you do in life, you will inevitably be confronted by complete imbeciles. It's good to know what to expect.

                                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                        • R ragnaroknrol

                                          Why are you bothering? Seriously, I stopped bothering with him a while ago because he is incapable of managing to respond in a manner that does not make my 4yr old look good. Could a lot of the stuff that went down that day been a cover up? Yep. Was it a bit too good of a coincidence? Yeop. Did the powers that be exploit the fuck out of it and make the entire thing worse for 7 years? You betcha! Does any of that matter at this point? Not really. We have people in charge unwilling to go after them. They had 7 years to cover up tracks and likely used it to good effect. Conspiracy websites aren't even on their radar. Too many wack jobs saying stuff about vaccines, alien abductions, 9-11, and other things all combined in a web of lies and such make it so that if even ONE of them was actually right, no one would be able to take them seriously. And really, I think far too few people take into account that our government has made it a habit of taking something simple and complicating it to the point where it becomes such a mess that it is almost worthless. Apply that to a situation where even a single person with the right evidence can bring it all down and it makes some scenarios pretty much impossible. Oh and when people point out that a jet would have smacked a building because it takes less than 2 minutes to get there and the timeline said 20, but then the author changes the subject and goes nuts over something that is not related, they are using a straw man. Ignore the straw man. Focus on the point and force an answer. How was there a conversation about a jet heading for Washington for 20 minutes when the plane could have gone to Washington, went back to Newark for bagels, and come back in that amount of time? Sorry, if you are going to make some scenario about how this actually happened, then you need to have basics down. The movie did not.

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                                          ragnaroknrol wrote:

                                          vaccines, alien abductions,

                                          Yeah right, because vaccines and aliens go hand in hand. :rolleyes: Quit making shit up, nobody but the onion and humor websites are talking about alien invaders.

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