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  • R ragnaroknrol

    Strawman. You present opinions as fact. Tyrants are in power, maybe, depending on the place. But even then, opinion. Expanding their power, same thing. Come on, how about using real facts? Should I bother starting a count today?

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    Ian Shlasko
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    Think he's looked up the term 'Strawman' yet?

    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Think he's looked up the term 'Strawman' yet?

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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      ragnaroknrol
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      Someone linked to the wikipedia page for it. Which means it is on the internet... SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :wtf:

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      • R ragnaroknrol

        Someone linked to the wikipedia page for it. Which means it is on the internet... SO IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :wtf:

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Nah, I'm sure the next Alex Jones show will be all about the "Strawman Conspiracy"... How the Federal Reserve is using a propaganda campaign to redefine logic itself in its favor.

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        • R ragnaroknrol

          Hell, look at Russia and China. They pretty much refuse to follow any western coroporations attempts to police their infringement. If it was some sort of global conspiracy you would think 2 of the 3 biggest powers (at one point or another) would be working with them... And if I remember there is actually a provision in there were some idiot record company started being stupid about songs and got nailed, hard.

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          China heavily censors and controls the internet, for political reasons.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Why does everything have to be a conspiracy to dominate the world?

            Why does power corrupt? Power is a very potent and extremely addictive drug.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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            Lost User
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            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Why does power corrupt?

            Power tend to corrupt.

            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

            Power is a very potent and extremely addictive drug.

            If that is true, should power be vested to a majority?

            Bob Emmett

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              China heavily censors and controls the internet, for political reasons.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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              Distind
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              And yet they still manage to pirate enough copies of windows to trigger outrage when Mircosoft manages to kill the pirated version.

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                And yet they still manage to pirate enough copies of windows to trigger outrage when Mircosoft manages to kill the pirated version.

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                ragnaroknrol
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                I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

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                • R ragnaroknrol

                  I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

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                  ragnaroknrol wrote:

                  It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

                  Sounds about right.

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                    It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

                    Sounds about right.

                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                    ragnaroknrol
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                    hmmm. Once again, that makes more sense. :-D

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                    • R ragnaroknrol

                      I am amazed by him. So which is it? Is it a secret attempt to use this treaty to control everyone through sublte but utterly EVIL censorship, or just outright censorship that everyone knows about? Why would they be part of a conspiracy by Western CORPORATIONS to control the internet? They already show a remarkable tendency to not want to listen to the west. China is well known for pirating software. Hell, it's an industry there. They censor the internet a ton and jail people for anything they don't like. It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

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                      ragnaroknrol wrote:

                      It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

                      Standard practice for many ideologues out there. Why think when we can assume we already know?

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                        ragnaroknrol wrote:

                        It's like he doesn't think his responses through.

                        Standard practice for many ideologues out there. Why think when we can assume we already know?

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                        Because that's the only way to get into politics?

                        OSDev :)

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                          And yet they still manage to pirate enough copies of windows to trigger outrage when Mircosoft manages to kill the pirated version.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                            They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                            ragnaroknrol
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                            Wait, I can almost agree with all this. WTF?! I'm going to have to go see if dogs and cats have started living together...

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                              They only censor for political reasons. They don't give a shit about copying software, they do it themselves (chinese government). They are a bunch of power hungry criminals.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                              I'm wondering who isn't a bunch of power hungry criminals to you. But congratulations, you've managed to say something loosely correct. But the point is, if they aren't clamping down on the internet entirely, they can't actually manage to censor it completely. Never mind it's entirely possible to get software which can bypass all of their restrictions.

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                                I'm wondering who isn't a bunch of power hungry criminals to you. But congratulations, you've managed to say something loosely correct. But the point is, if they aren't clamping down on the internet entirely, they can't actually manage to censor it completely. Never mind it's entirely possible to get software which can bypass all of their restrictions.

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                                They do a pretty good job at it, backed with prison time. If you get caught looking at forbidden material, such as anti-communism sentiments, your ass gets clamped in prison.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                  They do a pretty good job at it, backed with prison time. If you get caught looking at forbidden material, such as anti-communism sentiments, your ass gets clamped in prison.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  Are you trying to convince us that China is a totalitarian regime? I thought this was common knowledge.

                                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    Are you trying to convince us that China is a totalitarian regime? I thought this was common knowledge.

                                    Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                    Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                    I thought this was common knowledge.

                                    Maybe not so much, their are too many that believe that they are wonderful and we should be like them.

                                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                    • I Ian Shlasko

                                      Are you trying to convince us that China is a totalitarian regime? I thought this was common knowledge.

                                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                                      ragnaroknrol
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                                      I'm just amazed he's stating stuff and backing it with evidence. Well, not really evidence, but enough evidence has been found that having to show it is pretty much not needed. Seriously, when is the meteor hitting? I'd like to take my wife out of here, have some fun then grab our kid so we can all be cuddling when it destroys us.

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                                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        I thought this was common knowledge.

                                        Maybe not so much, their are too many that believe that they are wonderful and we should be like them.

                                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                        ragnaroknrol
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                                        I can agree with this on some levels. So the meteor hits soon... I think I will take the afternoon off.

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                                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                          I thought this was common knowledge.

                                          Maybe not so much, their are too many that believe that they are wonderful and we should be like them.

                                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^]

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                                          Find me one of them and I'll happily smack them senseless.

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