A Boring Poster
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No, CSS is one Joshua Henize and Ilion is Troy Haley. However, both are from Ohio.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Tim Craig wrote:
both are from Ohio.
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address. I looked at google street view of the neighborhood and was amazed by what a shit hole it appeared to be.
Josh Gray wrote:
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address.
I think that was Oakman before he retreated to SB 1.0. Ilion has publicly bragged he's from a long line of TPT. CSS is from around Dayton and is a perfect example of the old addage about shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address.
I think that was Oakman before he retreated to SB 1.0. Ilion has publicly bragged he's from a long line of TPT. CSS is from around Dayton and is a perfect example of the old addage about shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
I heard that before, but here in UK it is 'Clogs to Clogs' in three generations.
------------------------------------ No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Clare Boothe Luce
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Tim Craig wrote:
both are from Ohio.
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address. I looked at google street view of the neighborhood and was amazed by what a shit hole it appeared to be.
Josh Gray wrote:
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address. I looked at google street view of the neighborhood and was amazed by what a sh*t hole it appeared to be.
:laugh: You did this minor cyber-stalking because you can't get enough of me. I guess that you forgot that I had told DryRot that even knowing my address wouldn't help him find my house should he decide to uncyber his cyber-stalking. My address is virtual, there is no street, it's not on any map, there is no street-view to google.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address.
I think that was Oakman before he retreated to SB 1.0. Ilion has publicly bragged he's from a long line of TPT. CSS is from around Dayton and is a perfect example of the old addage about shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations.
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
No one in my family has ever lived in a trailer. Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. Still, it’s nice to see you “caring, generous” “liberal” folk show your true colors and openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor. The northern side of my family were prosperous farmers (and doctors) and small businessmen. The southern side of my family were a combination of share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers (and some still held extensive lands) ... and before that, before the Civil War, they were doctors and lawyers and plantation owners.
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No one in my family has ever lived in a trailer. Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. Still, it’s nice to see you “caring, generous” “liberal” folk show your true colors and openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor. The northern side of my family were prosperous farmers (and doctors) and small businessmen. The southern side of my family were a combination of share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers (and some still held extensive lands) ... and before that, before the Civil War, they were doctors and lawyers and plantation owners.
Ilíon wrote:
northern side of my family were prosperous farmers
Ilíon wrote:
The southern side of my family were a combination of share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers
What do you mean Northern and Southern side? [joke]Top and bottom half of body?[joke]
50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!
modified on Monday, December 14, 2009 7:24 AM
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Ilíon wrote:
northern side of my family were prosperous farmers
Ilíon wrote:
The southern side of my family were a combination of share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers
What do you mean Northern and Southern side? [joke]Top and bottom half of body?[joke]
50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!
modified on Monday, December 14, 2009 7:24 AM
d@nish wrote:
What do you mean Northern and Southern side?
I have a mother *and* a father ... which is no doubt a novel concept around here ... thus, there are two sides to my family. My mother's mother's people were Yankee transplants to Illinois and her father's people were Carolina transplants to Indiana ... and I was born a sixth-generation Hoosier (of course, if one counts the Indian side of that, it's even more generations within what is now Indiana). My father's people had always been Southerners. edit: I don't know for a fact, but I suspect that this fellow[^] is a cousin. He was born in the same general area as many of my father's people, he lived for a while in Missouri (and, as I understand it, most of his relatives stayed there when he headed West), and when my father lived in Missouri he knew of Haleys and Haileys who were his own relatives.
modified on Monday, December 14, 2009 7:38 AM
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d@nish wrote:
What do you mean Northern and Southern side?
I have a mother *and* a father ... which is no doubt a novel concept around here ... thus, there are two sides to my family. My mother's mother's people were Yankee transplants to Illinois and her father's people were Carolina transplants to Indiana ... and I was born a sixth-generation Hoosier (of course, if one counts the Indian side of that, it's even more generations within what is now Indiana). My father's people had always been Southerners. edit: I don't know for a fact, but I suspect that this fellow[^] is a cousin. He was born in the same general area as many of my father's people, he lived for a while in Missouri (and, as I understand it, most of his relatives stayed there when he headed West), and when my father lived in Missouri he knew of Haleys and Haileys who were his own relatives.
modified on Monday, December 14, 2009 7:38 AM
Ilíon wrote:
I have a mother *and* a father ... which is no doubt a novel concept around here ... thus, there are two sides to my family.
Maternal and paternal is what that is generally called. Northern/Southern I am reading for the first time.
50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!
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Ilíon wrote:
I have a mother *and* a father ... which is no doubt a novel concept around here ... thus, there are two sides to my family.
Maternal and paternal is what that is generally called. Northern/Southern I am reading for the first time.
50-50-90 rule: Anytime I have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability I'll get it wrong...!!
And the maternal side of my family is Northern and the paternal is Southern. But I didn't say 'paternal' and 'maternal' because I was talking about where they were from, not how I am related to them. The fool who called me "TPT" was making reference to the poverty of my immediate Southern relatives, and specifically the circumstances in which my father was raised.
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No one in my family has ever lived in a trailer. Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. Still, it’s nice to see you “caring, generous” “liberal” folk show your true colors and openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor. The northern side of my family were prosperous farmers (and doctors) and small businessmen. The southern side of my family were a combination of share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers (and some still held extensive lands) ... and before that, before the Civil War, they were doctors and lawyers and plantation owners.
Ilíon wrote:
Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. Still, it’s nice to see you “caring, generous” “liberal” folk show your true colors and openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor.
There's a difference between living in a trailer, and being trailer trash. It's pretty easy to see too, but I love how you in your conservative brilliance refused to associate yourself with those of the trailer caste. They aren't half bad, at least no worse than the housing plans with even less yard space than a damn trailer(Not kidding, I've done the math more than once to annoy a few people I grew up with).
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Ilíon wrote:
Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. Still, it’s nice to see you “caring, generous” “liberal” folk show your true colors and openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor.
There's a difference between living in a trailer, and being trailer trash. It's pretty easy to see too, but I love how you in your conservative brilliance refused to associate yourself with those of the trailer caste. They aren't half bad, at least no worse than the housing plans with even less yard space than a damn trailer(Not kidding, I've done the math more than once to annoy a few people I grew up with).
You poor and pathetic thing, *I* did not call the folk who live in trailers trash (*). I simply stated that no one in my family has ever lived in one. (*) One of my best friends from college lived in one for a while after she got married, and I visited them several times before they moved out west. -- Does that mean I can do the "liberal" "some of my best friends ..." thingie?
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You poor and pathetic thing, *I* did not call the folk who live in trailers trash (*). I simply stated that no one in my family has ever lived in one. (*) One of my best friends from college lived in one for a while after she got married, and I visited them several times before they moved out west. -- Does that mean I can do the "liberal" "some of my best friends ..." thingie?
Not the point I was aiming at. He referred to you as trailer park trash. And frankly, trash is trash. Trailer or not. Just with a trailer there seems to be this added bit of them sitting on their front lawn all day, so they're more visible. But you explicitly avoided living in a trailer when looking for a place to live, rather than living there. Which amused me as you try to mark yourself as a person who thinks rather than buying into what you're told.
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Not the point I was aiming at. He referred to you as trailer park trash. And frankly, trash is trash. Trailer or not. Just with a trailer there seems to be this added bit of them sitting on their front lawn all day, so they're more visible. But you explicitly avoided living in a trailer when looking for a place to live, rather than living there. Which amused me as you try to mark yourself as a person who thinks rather than buying into what you're told.
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You poor and pathetic thing, *I* did not call the folk who live in trailers trash (*). I simply stated that no one in my family has ever lived in one. (*) One of my best friends from college lived in one for a while after she got married, and I visited them several times before they moved out west. -- Does that mean I can do the "liberal" "some of my best friends ..." thingie?
Ilíon wrote:
Does that mean I can do the "liberal" "some of my best friends ..." thingie?
Is there a way to stop you? Other than Armed Response, of course?
All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.
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Ilíon wrote:
Does that mean I can do the "liberal" "some of my best friends ..." thingie?
Is there a way to stop you? Other than Armed Response, of course?
All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Is there a way to stop you?
Of course not. However, I have too much self-respect to behave/talk/think like a "liberal."
Ilíon wrote:
I have too much self-respect to behave/talk/think like a "liberal."
No, from your current posts, you are far too busy behaving/talking/thinking like a discrimitatory elitist.
All those who believe in psycho kinesis, raise my hand.
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Silly person, I grew up in houses (and, for the most part, relatively large houses), not in tiny little boxes with paper-thin walls. The trailer was no where near a trailer park, it was out in the country.
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Ilíon wrote:
not in tiny little boxes with paper-thin walls.
So it is O.K. for you, a self-styled "conservative", to "openly display the scorn you have for poor folk simply because they're poor."
Bob Emmett If it ain't broke, it ain't Britain.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Someone once posted what they claimed was Ilion's address. I looked at google street view of the neighborhood and was amazed by what a sh*t hole it appeared to be.
:laugh: You did this minor cyber-stalking because you can't get enough of me. I guess that you forgot that I had told DryRot that even knowing my address wouldn't help him find my house should he decide to uncyber his cyber-stalking. My address is virtual, there is no street, it's not on any map, there is no street-view to google.
Ilíon wrote:
You did this minor cyber-stalking because you can't get enough of me.
Yes I want your babies. Actually I just wanted your mum but she wasn't that good after all.
Ilíon wrote:
I guess that you forgot that I had told DryRot that even knowing my address wouldn't help him find my house should he decide to uncyber his cyber-stalking. My address is virtual, there is no street, it's not on any map, there is no street-view to google.
As I said I looked at the neighborhood. If that is where you spend your time I pity you.
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Since when did trailers become poor persons? Since when did scorning "manufactured housing" become scorning persons?
Ilíon wrote:
No one in my family has ever lived in a trailer. Even in college, when I needed to find a new place to live and (for a while) all I had found was a trailer, I turned it down and waited for something else to turn up. [M]y family were prosperous farmers (and doctors) and small businessmen ... share-croppers and laborers and moderately prosperous farmers (and some still held extensive lands) ... and ... before the Civil War, they were doctors and lawyers and plantation owners.
Why are you so anxious to establish that, aside from the share-croppers and labourers, you have middle class roots, and thus were not raised to live in trailers?
Ilíon wrote:
I grew up in houses (and, for the most part, relatively large houses), not in tiny little boxes with paper-thin walls.
Why the need to emphasise houses, why the need to mention their size, why the need to scorn "manufactured housing" at all? A simple, "I always lived in a house." would have sufficed. But it does not suffice. You have to establish that you were not raised to live in lesser houses.
Ilíon wrote:
Since when did trailers become poor persons? Since when did scorning "manufactured housing" become scorning persons?
Context, dear Gillian, context. Express yourself more clearly and you will not be misconstrued.
Bob Emmett
