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find week num of first week in year [modified]

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  • D dan sh

    If all you need to know is that first day is Monday or not, why not just check the DayOfWeek property for firstOfYear?

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    Thanks D@nish, I am not trying to know about monday as first day. I am trying to extract the week num of first week where first day of week for me is Monday. So, If the year (e.g. 2010) starts on Friday then Friday, Saturday & Sunday should be considered as days of last week of previous year and that is 53 for year 2009.I want this number(53). Week number 1 should start from 4 Jan 2010 (Monday).

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      Thanks D@nish, I am not trying to know about monday as first day. I am trying to extract the week num of first week where first day of week for me is Monday. So, If the year (e.g. 2010) starts on Friday then Friday, Saturday & Sunday should be considered as days of last week of previous year and that is 53 for year 2009.I want this number(53). Week number 1 should start from 4 Jan 2010 (Monday).

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      dan sh
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      Oh. Once you get the day one first day of the month, you need to add/reduce the days to get to the first week accordingly. The tip posted in other reply would do that for you.

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        See my tip[^] to get the answer.

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        Maddie from Dartford
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        Thanks Rich. Actually, I wanted to display week num for starting days before monday of new year.

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        • M Maddie from Dartford

          Thanks Rich. Actually, I wanted to display week num for starting days before monday of new year.

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          gajesh wrote:

          Actually, I wanted to display week num for starting days before monday of new year.

          OK, that requires a little bit of mathematics - using my sample week 1 of 2009 starts on Monday, December 29, 2008, so add 52 * 7 (364) and we get December 28 2009, which is beginning of week 53, since we know that week 1 of 2010 begins on 4th January.

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            gajesh wrote:

            Actually, I wanted to display week num for starting days before monday of new year.

            OK, that requires a little bit of mathematics - using my sample week 1 of 2009 starts on Monday, December 29, 2008, so add 52 * 7 (364) and we get December 28 2009, which is beginning of week 53, since we know that week 1 of 2010 begins on 4th January.

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            Maddie from Dartford
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            Thanks. Yeah.. I'll do this calulation. Thanks again.

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            • D dan sh

              Change FirstFullWeek to FirstDay and you would get one. There is nothing like 53 week, AFAIK, so won't get that.

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              d@nish wrote:

              There is nothing like 53 week, AFAIK, so won't get t

              Oh yes there is! Week one of any year is the first week containing a Thursday in the new year. This means that Jan the first can be in week one, or in the last week of the previous year, which (depending on when Jan 1st was for that year) can be week 51, 52, or 53. There is an international standard for week of the year: ISO-8601[^] [edit]Typos due to typing with gloves on - it's cold in here![/edit]

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              • M Maddie from Dartford

                Thanks D@nish, I am not trying to know about monday as first day. I am trying to extract the week num of first week where first day of week for me is Monday. So, If the year (e.g. 2010) starts on Friday then Friday, Saturday & Sunday should be considered as days of last week of previous year and that is 53 for year 2009.I want this number(53). Week number 1 should start from 4 Jan 2010 (Monday).

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                Week 1 of 2009 started on Monday, January 5th. This means that December 31st 2009, which fell on Thursday, was week 52. Thus Friday January 1st 2010 was also week 52; weeks start on Mondays, not Fridays - or any other days. (EDIT: I rush to add that weeks DO of course start on other days in many systems, but they did not in this case! Just in an attempt to preempt those who may already be writing to point out my cultural insensitivity.) Thus you may *want* 53, but 52 is correct for 2010. The next time Jan 1st is in Week #53 is in 2013 (the last was in 2008). :)

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                  d@nish wrote:

                  There is nothing like 53 week, AFAIK, so won't get t

                  Oh yes there is! Week one of any year is the first week containing a Thursday in the new year. This means that Jan the first can be in week one, or in the last week of the previous year, which (depending on when Jan 1st was for that year) can be week 51, 52, or 53. There is an international standard for week of the year: ISO-8601[^] [edit]Typos due to typing with gloves on - it's cold in here![/edit]

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                  Yes, but since weeks have 7 days and 52*7 = 364 and a (leap) year has 365 (366) days, this means the first day of the year can be week 1, week 52, or week 53. For example, if a year starts on a Friday, there are only three days belonging to that week in the new year. Thus week 1 might start on the fourth day of the year, in which case we'd still not be finished with week 52 on December 31st. The only times you get to week 53 is thus - if the week start on Monday - when a year starts on Monday, or on a Tuesday AND it is a leap year. For example, in a non-leap year that starts on Monday after 364 days or 52 full weeks it'll be Monday again but with one day to go; this will be Monday December 31st of whatever year it is, and the first day of week 53. The next day would then be January 1st, and since it's a Tuesday it clearly belongs to the same week as the Monday, since your weeks (as do mine) start on Monday.

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                    gajesh wrote:

                    Actually, I wanted to display week num for starting days before monday of new year.

                    OK, that requires a little bit of mathematics - using my sample week 1 of 2009 starts on Monday, December 29, 2008, so add 52 * 7 (364) and we get December 28 2009, which is beginning of week 53, since we know that week 1 of 2010 begins on 4th January.

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                    If week one started December 29, 2009, I sure as heck wonder what week number you assign to the *previous* Monday, December 22, 2009. In fact, there was a week 53 in 2008, so week 1 in 2009 didn't get started until Monday January 5th. Thus the last day of 2009 was still in Week 52 and so were the first few days of 2010. Week 52 is therefore correct, and the original question was flawed. Not that this isn't understandable - it's very easy to put a foot wrong on these things. The complexity is quite moderate, but very subtle! (EDIT: By the way, I am fully aware that December 22, like December 29, did not fall on a Monday in 2009. The point is, and it's funny imo, there's been a rather humerously long week 53 or some unprecedented new all-time-high in week number if week one didn't get started until late December.)

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                      If week one started December 29, 2009, I sure as heck wonder what week number you assign to the *previous* Monday, December 22, 2009. In fact, there was a week 53 in 2008, so week 1 in 2009 didn't get started until Monday January 5th. Thus the last day of 2009 was still in Week 52 and so were the first few days of 2010. Week 52 is therefore correct, and the original question was flawed. Not that this isn't understandable - it's very easy to put a foot wrong on these things. The complexity is quite moderate, but very subtle! (EDIT: By the way, I am fully aware that December 22, like December 29, did not fall on a Monday in 2009. The point is, and it's funny imo, there's been a rather humerously long week 53 or some unprecedented new all-time-high in week number if week one didn't get started until late December.)

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                      I think you have got a bit confused, try re-reading my explanation.

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