Ron Paul: Current Conditions, or Just a Bad Dream?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
audit and abolish the federal reserve
It's already audited by Congress regularly. This myth is much like the death panels myth by Sarah Palin and co.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
stop meddling with other countries
I would agree with this on it's face and to the extent that we've turned into the world's police.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
cut government spending
Cut what portions?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
obey the constitution
And what is his or your interpretation of it today? Do you read it literally or in the context and time it was written? Each person seems to interpret it to their own beliefs and particular bend.
wolfbinary wrote:
It's already audited by Congress regularly.
Its never been audited.
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Dr. Ron Paul's solutions are to audit and abolish the federal reserve, stop meddling with other countries, cut government spending, and obey the constitution.
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What's he doing about it? Seriously, I was all for him in the election, but since then he's not been able to so much as raise a ruckus. This is the first I have heard of him attempting to make waves and before he was at least carried on news outlets, now all he is on is this? Oh and you never stop meddling with other countries. That's called isolationism and EVERY time the US has done that it has gotten into a major war. You play the game and let people know you are there to kick the crap out of them if they mess with you, and you give them a bloody nose if they don't listen. They sponsor terrorism, you bomb their home. None of this invade the country BS, just make the specific people in charge know that being in charge means they will eventually look up and see the words "So long dumbass, wave for the camera." on a smart bomb.
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wolfbinary wrote:
It's already audited by Congress regularly.
Its never been audited.
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Just because you say soemthing does not make it true. Or is that like arguing with god?
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wolfbinary wrote:
It's already audited by Congress regularly.
Its never been audited.
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The GAO via the Comptroller General does according to the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act of 1978.
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The GAO via the Comptroller General does according to the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act of 1978.
wolfbinary wrote:
The GAO via the Comptroller General does according to the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act of 1978.
They don't do real audits.
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What's he doing about it? Seriously, I was all for him in the election, but since then he's not been able to so much as raise a ruckus. This is the first I have heard of him attempting to make waves and before he was at least carried on news outlets, now all he is on is this? Oh and you never stop meddling with other countries. That's called isolationism and EVERY time the US has done that it has gotten into a major war. You play the game and let people know you are there to kick the crap out of them if they mess with you, and you give them a bloody nose if they don't listen. They sponsor terrorism, you bomb their home. None of this invade the country BS, just make the specific people in charge know that being in charge means they will eventually look up and see the words "So long dumbass, wave for the camera." on a smart bomb.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
What's he doing about it?
He has got a bill to audit the fed, it has great momentum.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
That's called isolationism and EVERY time the US has done that it has gotten into a major war.
You have it backwards.
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Just because you say soemthing does not make it true. Or is that like arguing with god?
ragnaroknrol wrote:
Just because you say soemthing does not make it true.
Speak for yourself.
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wolfbinary wrote:
The GAO via the Comptroller General does according to the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act of 1978.
They don't do real audits.
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What's a real audit mean? If they want more information about what the federal reserve does then by all means go ahead. Sounds good to me, but saying no audit happens is disingenuous and lacking in actual details as to what the kind of auditing information is being sought.
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What's a real audit mean? If they want more information about what the federal reserve does then by all means go ahead. Sounds good to me, but saying no audit happens is disingenuous and lacking in actual details as to what the kind of auditing information is being sought.
wolfbinary wrote:
What's a real audit mean?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1207[^] That is a step in the right direction.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
What's he doing about it?
He has got a bill to audit the fed, it has great momentum.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
That's called isolationism and EVERY time the US has done that it has gotten into a major war.
You have it backwards.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have it backwards.
No I don't. 1801 THomas Jefferson in inaugural speech "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." 1812 we were fighting Britain. Woodrow Wilson ran on a platform of "He kept us out of war" We jumped into WW1 with him as well. US goes back to it after WW1. It goes into full isolation mode during the Great Depression. Guess what happens 20 years later... I think you got that wrong buddy.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
You have it backwards.
No I don't. 1801 THomas Jefferson in inaugural speech "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." 1812 we were fighting Britain. Woodrow Wilson ran on a platform of "He kept us out of war" We jumped into WW1 with him as well. US goes back to it after WW1. It goes into full isolation mode during the Great Depression. Guess what happens 20 years later... I think you got that wrong buddy.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
No I don't.
Yes you do.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Just because you say soemthing does not make it true.
Speak for yourself.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
Oh yea, great point. Too bad I keep bring up actual, you know, facts. Stuff that can be verified. But hey, all you have to do is say something and it is right, because arguing with you is like arguing with god.
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wolfbinary wrote:
What's a real audit mean?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1207[^] That is a step in the right direction.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
I've read that before, it sure doesn't have much by means of a bill. It does almost nothing. I would expect more. I don't see why Congress can't subpoena the comptroller before the house finances committee, etc. Smells like grand standing to me. If Ron Paul really wants to do something like this he'd better put some teeth in it and not float this thing.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
No I don't.
Yes you do.
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That's your brilliant rebuttal? NYAH NYAH?! I post actual examples and you don't even bother to quote or discuss them? wait, where is that bot program, I need to update it.
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Oh yea, great point. Too bad I keep bring up actual, you know, facts. Stuff that can be verified. But hey, all you have to do is say something and it is right, because arguing with you is like arguing with god.
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wow, when someone points out you don't back anything up with facts you result to mom insults. That bot program may really be true...