No Guns for Negroes
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Here are some statistics.[^] lets look at crime rates in the U.K. and the impact of the gun ban in that country. Just look at this report from, the Times of London, Aug. 26, 2007. The Home Office figures — which exclude crimes involving air weapons — show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06. Australias experience with gun control is similar to the U.K.s. The number of Victorians murdered with firearms has almost trebled since the introduction of tighter gun laws. Geelong Advertiser, Victoria, Sept. 11, 1997. Gun crime is on the rise despite tougher laws imposed after the Port Arthur massacre, but gun control lobbyists maintain Australia is a safer place . . . The number of robberies involving guns jumped 39% last year to 2183, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and assaults involving guns rose 28% to 806. The number of gun murders, excluding the Port Arthur massacre, increased by 19% to 75. — Gun Crime Rises Despite Controls, Illawarra Mercury, Oct. 28, 1998. Crime involving guns is on the rise despite tougher laws. The number of robberies with guns jumped 39% in 1997, while assaults involving guns rose 28% and murders by 19%. — Gun crime soars, Morning Herald, Sydney, Oct. 28, 1998. Murders by firearms have actually increased (in Victoria) since the buyback scheme, which removed 225,000 registered and unregistered firearms from circulation. There were 18 shooting murders in 1996-97, after the buyback scheme had been introduced, compared with only six in 1995-1996 before the scheme started. — Killings rise in gun hunt, Herald Sun, Melbourne, Dec. 23, 1998. Victoria is facing one of its worst murder tolls in a decade and its lowest arrest rate ever. — Herald Sun, Melbourne, Dec. 11, 1999. The environment is more violent and dangerous than it was some time ago. — South Australia Police Commissioner Mal Hyde, reported in The Advertiser, Adelaide, Dec. 23, 1999. After the ban, D.C.s murder rate only once fell below what it was in 1976. From 1977 to 2003, there were only two years when D.C.s violent crime rate fell below the rate in 1976. After the ban, DCs murder and violent rates rose relative to Maryland and Virginia as well as relative to other cities with more than 500,000 people, according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency repo
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Australias experience with gun control is similar to the U.K.s.
I expect so. Read the Snopes link I gave you. Our rate of gun crime has always been lower than yours and has become much lower since the gun buyback. The basic problem, as Snopes points out, is that the average American gun nut can't begin to understand life in a country where most people have never owned guns. For the buyback to increase crime, we'd need a past culture where people were typically armed, or at least, where it was reasonable to expect we would be. This has never been true here. That's why we have almost no school shootings, for example. Australia has always been safer than the US because we do not have the 'right to bear arms'. The gun buyback only increased that safety, and it's precisely because this is true that the gun lobby worked so hard to twist figures and present lies to try to hide the fact.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The madness ends when people who would commit these crimes know that their intended victims will defend themselves.
People dying in the US because two armed people mistake each other for a threat are probably greater than all the gun deaths in Australia. As I said above, it's NEVER been the case that a criminal would consider as remotely likely that their intended victim had a gun, in Australia. Yet our crime rates per capita are much lower. You can't explain that, so you will ignore that I said it and post more drivel copy and pasted from the web.
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:laugh: So when it doesn't fit your worldview statistics suddenly become lies. I pity you, really. You are a screwed up creature.
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As I expected, you didn't read the snopes post, you ignored the fact that our GOVERNMENT wrote to your gun lobby to ask them to stop lying about us. The amusing thing is, what you accuse me of, is exactly what you're guilty of. As I've said before, the trouble with the internet is that idiots like you are able to only read the things that reinforce their world view, no matter how wrong it is.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Here are some statistics.[^] lets look at crime rates in the U.K. and the impact of the gun ban in that country. Just look at this report from, the Times of London, Aug. 26, 2007. The Home Office figures — which exclude crimes involving air weapons — show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06. Australias experience with gun control is similar to the U.K.s. The number of Victorians murdered with firearms has almost trebled since the introduction of tighter gun laws. Geelong Advertiser, Victoria, Sept. 11, 1997. Gun crime is on the rise despite tougher laws imposed after the Port Arthur massacre, but gun control lobbyists maintain Australia is a safer place . . . The number of robberies involving guns jumped 39% last year to 2183, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, and assaults involving guns rose 28% to 806. The number of gun murders, excluding the Port Arthur massacre, increased by 19% to 75. — Gun Crime Rises Despite Controls, Illawarra Mercury, Oct. 28, 1998. Crime involving guns is on the rise despite tougher laws. The number of robberies with guns jumped 39% in 1997, while assaults involving guns rose 28% and murders by 19%. — Gun crime soars, Morning Herald, Sydney, Oct. 28, 1998. Murders by firearms have actually increased (in Victoria) since the buyback scheme, which removed 225,000 registered and unregistered firearms from circulation. There were 18 shooting murders in 1996-97, after the buyback scheme had been introduced, compared with only six in 1995-1996 before the scheme started. — Killings rise in gun hunt, Herald Sun, Melbourne, Dec. 23, 1998. Victoria is facing one of its worst murder tolls in a decade and its lowest arrest rate ever. — Herald Sun, Melbourne, Dec. 11, 1999. The environment is more violent and dangerous than it was some time ago. — South Australia Police Commissioner Mal Hyde, reported in The Advertiser, Adelaide, Dec. 23, 1999. After the ban, D.C.s murder rate only once fell below what it was in 1976. From 1977 to 2003, there were only two years when D.C.s violent crime rate fell below the rate in 1976. After the ban, DCs murder and violent rates rose relative to Maryland and Virginia as well as relative to other cities with more than 500,000 people, according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency repo
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The Home Office figures — which exclude crimes involving air weapons — show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06.
Largely due to idiotic young gang members shooting one another in drug related crimes. Offences tend to be concentrated in just three police forces: the Metropolitan Police (London), Greater Manchester and West Midlands (Birmingham). However, you will be pleased to hear that since 2005-06, firearms offences have decreased by 26% (2008-09).
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The Home Office figures — which exclude crimes involving air weapons — show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06.
Largely due to idiotic young gang members shooting one another in drug related crimes. Offences tend to be concentrated in just three police forces: the Metropolitan Police (London), Greater Manchester and West Midlands (Birmingham). However, you will be pleased to hear that since 2005-06, firearms offences have decreased by 26% (2008-09).
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
He's run scared from people with facts at their disposal.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So black people don't have the right to own a firearm in your mind?
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This is hilarious. Here is the black community: A here is the public: B A is a subset of B. B is not a subset of A. Gun control should apply to B. As a result, this will invariably affect A but it also affects C,D,....Y,Z where C->Z is every other ethnic group out there.
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Racists are the ones that want to disarm the public. Watch the documentary, your questions are thoroughly answered by the black gentlemen.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
your questions are thoroughly answered by the black gentlemen.
If he was white would you have said "your questions are thoroughly answered by the white gentlemen"? No, you wouldn't, so why qualify his skin color when his color is not white?
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Again, racists are the ones who want to disarm the public. Anyone who wants to disarm the public is a racist.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Again, racists are the ones who want to disarm the public. Anyone who wants to disarm the public is a racist.
How exactly? I'd peg the people who have happily exploited minority groups until they were no longer useful and then left them where they were likely to be shot as the racists myself. I say this coming from a city with a remarkably bad history of this, and probably one of the top 10 murders per capita in the country. We used to be number 1, but I think they're running out of bullets. Why? Because people don't have guns? Nope. Because the armed citizenry revolted and massacred all the idiots? Not even close. It's because there isn't jack for money in this city anymore, there's less incentive to kill each other over territory when they can go elsewhere and make far more money. This argument presented is the same kind of statistical bullshit that racists use to claim black people are inferior. Never mind taking into account all of the other variables involved, this effects black people more on a straight single variable analysis, it must be true!
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Anyone who wants to disarm the public, is a racist, plain and simple. The KKK wanted to disarm the black community, they are racists. People like you want to disarm the black community, you are a racist.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Anyone who wants to disarm the public, is a racist, plain and simple.
Ooh, that's a good one... Quoted[^]!
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
your questions are thoroughly answered by the black gentlemen.
If he was white would you have said "your questions are thoroughly answered by the white gentlemen"? No, you wouldn't, so why qualify his skin color when his color is not white?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Again, racists are the ones who want to disarm the public. Anyone who wants to disarm the public is a racist.
How exactly? I'd peg the people who have happily exploited minority groups until they were no longer useful and then left them where they were likely to be shot as the racists myself. I say this coming from a city with a remarkably bad history of this, and probably one of the top 10 murders per capita in the country. We used to be number 1, but I think they're running out of bullets. Why? Because people don't have guns? Nope. Because the armed citizenry revolted and massacred all the idiots? Not even close. It's because there isn't jack for money in this city anymore, there's less incentive to kill each other over territory when they can go elsewhere and make far more money. This argument presented is the same kind of statistical bullshit that racists use to claim black people are inferior. Never mind taking into account all of the other variables involved, this effects black people more on a straight single variable analysis, it must be true!
Distind wrote:
How exactly?
Because they think humans are nothing but cannon fodder, especially ones they deem especially inferior. Only the elite can be armed, or the elites enforcers.
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Distind wrote:
How exactly?
Because they think humans are nothing but cannon fodder, especially ones they deem especially inferior. Only the elite can be armed, or the elites enforcers.
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Thanks for proving you've definitely read where I shot all your pathetic comments down in flames and proved your claims about the Australian gun buyback to be lies. It means I know 100% that you just stopped replying because you had no come back to the facts.
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