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    josda1000
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    Employer told not to post advert for 'reliable' workers because it discriminates against 'unreliable' applicants, at DailyMail.co.uk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246201/Employer-told-advertise-reliable-workers--discriminates-unreliable-applicants.html[^] David Kramer commentary, at LewRockwell.com: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/48702.html[^]

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      Employer told not to post advert for 'reliable' workers because it discriminates against 'unreliable' applicants, at DailyMail.co.uk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246201/Employer-told-advertise-reliable-workers--discriminates-unreliable-applicants.html[^] David Kramer commentary, at LewRockwell.com: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/48702.html[^]

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      Well, you know, "unreliable" workers are a powerful voting block. I mean, just look at Congress :)

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        Well, you know, "unreliable" workers are a powerful voting block. I mean, just look at Congress :)

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        LAWL! wow, well said. yeah, politicians in general. especially the EU, according to my research lol

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          LAWL! wow, well said. yeah, politicians in general. especially the EU, according to my research lol

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          Imagine if they were forced to remove that clause, as well as the English-speaking clause (In the article)... I can imagine the interviews... Interviewer: Would the first applicant please come with me? Applicant 1: Que? Interviewer: Alright, would the SECOND applicant please come with me? Applicant 2: Urgghh? Interviewer: Uhh.. Third? * Applicant 3 goes in... Interviewer: So... This job is about-- Wait, you do speak English, right? * Applicant 3 nods. Interviewer: Good. Now this job will require a lot of long hours, so we want to know if you're up to it. * Applicant 3 stares blankly. Interviewer: So... Are you? * Applicant 3 nods. Interviewer: Are you just nodding every time I ask a question? * Applicant 3 nods.

          Seeking qualified applicant to fill opening in lower
          management. Must be able to conduct job interviews.
          High tolerance for unreliable applicants.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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            Imagine if they were forced to remove that clause, as well as the English-speaking clause (In the article)... I can imagine the interviews... Interviewer: Would the first applicant please come with me? Applicant 1: Que? Interviewer: Alright, would the SECOND applicant please come with me? Applicant 2: Urgghh? Interviewer: Uhh.. Third? * Applicant 3 goes in... Interviewer: So... This job is about-- Wait, you do speak English, right? * Applicant 3 nods. Interviewer: Good. Now this job will require a lot of long hours, so we want to know if you're up to it. * Applicant 3 stares blankly. Interviewer: So... Are you? * Applicant 3 nods. Interviewer: Are you just nodding every time I ask a question? * Applicant 3 nods.

            Seeking qualified applicant to fill opening in lower
            management. Must be able to conduct job interviews.
            High tolerance for unreliable applicants.

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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            Ian Shlasko wrote:

            Seeking qualified applicant to fill opening in lower management. Must be able to conduct job interviews. High tolerance for unreliable applicants.

            Sounds like the description of most of the people I interviewed with. I never thought showing up a few minutes early and waiting patiently would cause someone to make remarks, but it surprised most of the people I interviewed with.

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              Employer told not to post advert for 'reliable' workers because it discriminates against 'unreliable' applicants, at DailyMail.co.uk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246201/Employer-told-advertise-reliable-workers--discriminates-unreliable-applicants.html[^] David Kramer commentary, at LewRockwell.com: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/48702.html[^]

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              Looks to me like the local lackeys overstepped their mark, and people higher up later stated that they'd made a mistake. "Even the woman at the jobcentre agreed it was ridiculous but explained it was policy because they could get sued for being dicriminatory against unreliable people. " The Equality and Human Rights Commission added: 'This is in no way in breach of any discrimination law.' I suspect the problem these people face, is the same problem people in the USA face.   A culture of zero responsibility has resulted in people being eager to sue anyone they can to make up for hteir own shortcomings, so everyone is more worried about being sued, than about what makes sense.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Looks to me like the local lackeys overstepped their mark, and people higher up later stated that they'd made a mistake. "Even the woman at the jobcentre agreed it was ridiculous but explained it was policy because they could get sued for being dicriminatory against unreliable people. " The Equality and Human Rights Commission added: 'This is in no way in breach of any discrimination law.' I suspect the problem these people face, is the same problem people in the USA face.   A culture of zero responsibility has resulted in people being eager to sue anyone they can to make up for hteir own shortcomings, so everyone is more worried about being sued, than about what makes sense.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                My boss let go someone in his probationary period a little while back. Apparently he is one of the only managers here that has ever done it, let alone done it multiple times and for reasons involving performance. makes no sense to me to have the probationary period if you don't get rid of the ones that hid stuff during interviews.

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                  My boss let go someone in his probationary period a little while back. Apparently he is one of the only managers here that has ever done it, let alone done it multiple times and for reasons involving performance. makes no sense to me to have the probationary period if you don't get rid of the ones that hid stuff during interviews.

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                  The other thing at play there is that some people don't do it b/c they don't want to admit they did badly as an interviewer, or tell their bosses they need to go through the cost and hassle of interviewing again.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    The other thing at play there is that some people don't do it b/c they don't want to admit they did badly as an interviewer, or tell their bosses they need to go through the cost and hassle of interviewing again.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    Yea, my boss is an exception. But since 3-4 other managers and some high level non-mangers were in the interview, he can share blame. Besides, how are you to know in an interview if the guy you hired tends to do things half-assed when he's not "feeling it" apparently he was "feeling it" in the interview... :)

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                      Yea, my boss is an exception. But since 3-4 other managers and some high level non-mangers were in the interview, he can share blame. Besides, how are you to know in an interview if the guy you hired tends to do things half-assed when he's not "feeling it" apparently he was "feeling it" in the interview... :)

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                      ragnaroknrol wrote: Besides, how are you to know in an interview if the guy you hired tends to do things half-assed when he's not "feeling it" apparently he was "feeling it" in the interview... Reminds me of my old office job.   We all had to wear suits.   One manager didn't like the policy, so he ignored it ( he left, and he wore his painting clothes to his farewell dinner to make a 'statement', a dumb thing to do in a market this small ).   His team started to copy him.   I ran into a guy walking to work, in casual clothes, and he started to go off to me about how dumb it is to make programmers wear a suit.   I asked him if he wore a suit to his interview.   He said he did, so I pointed out that he had indicated his willingness to wear a suit to work, and he was the one moving the rules. I didn't like wearing a suit, much, but seriously, if that's the worst thing that happens to you at work, that is a good job.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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