He just can't help himself ...
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hammerstein05 wrote:
How does bowing to someone indicate ones nationality?
I didn't say that bowing indicates what nationality Zero, The Won, is. I said it indicates a specific nationality that he is not: Americans do not bow to anyone ... except to God. And for the (alleged) President of the United States to go about bowing is shameful.
I'm pretty certain that I've seen American presidents bow to the Queen of England. I've seen them bow for other leaders as well. How is respecting another persons position or culture shameful? It shows a respect and understanding of another person.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
To not bow in a culture where it is done is shameful and arrogant. It is like refusing to shake hands.
Nonsense! Americans do not bow. That is *our* culture.
When in Rome...
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I'm pretty certain that I've seen American presidents bow to the Queen of England. I've seen them bow for other leaders as well. How is respecting another persons position or culture shameful? It shows a respect and understanding of another person.
Heaven forbid we don't swagger in and act like we own the freaking planet...
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
To not bow in a culture where it is done is shameful and arrogant. It is like refusing to shake hands.
Nonsense! Americans do not bow. That is *our* culture.
Best tell that to President's Kennedy, Ford, Carter, Reagan and at least one of the Bushes, they all bowed to the Queen. But then you have had 43 presidents in 234 years, we have had 43 Monarchs in a 1000 years. And the Queen has been head of state for 58 years, and has met Every President since Herbert Hoover. And the wives have curtsied. Your trouble is you see bowing as weakness, not as respect and politeness. That is why you are a twat.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Bob Emmett wrote:
He is the supreme leader of the world.
That whole "leader of the free-world" thingie is just BS. But, in any event, Zero, The Won, is at best but the "reader of the free-world."
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Ilíon wrote:
That whole "leader of the free-world" thingie is just BS.
That's not what I called him. Perhaps we need a <sarcasm> tag.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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And here I wonder why people think all Americans are rude idiots. I should know better by now.
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I'm pretty certain that I've seen American presidents bow to the Queen of England. I've seen them bow for other leaders as well. How is respecting another persons position or culture shameful? It shows a respect and understanding of another person.
hammerstein05 wrote:
I'm pretty certain that I've seen American presidents bow to the Queen of England. I've seen them bow for other leaders as well.
You have never seen a US President bow to anyone: it just isn't done.
hammerstein05 wrote:
How is respecting another persons position or culture shameful? It shows a respect and understanding of another person.
One respects one's own culture first. Unless, of course, one is into patronizing others. This fool isn't showing anyone respect, any more than Jimmy Carter was by making a big deal of toting his own luggage off Air Force One.
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Best tell that to President's Kennedy, Ford, Carter, Reagan and at least one of the Bushes, they all bowed to the Queen. But then you have had 43 presidents in 234 years, we have had 43 Monarchs in a 1000 years. And the Queen has been head of state for 58 years, and has met Every President since Herbert Hoover. And the wives have curtsied. Your trouble is you see bowing as weakness, not as respect and politeness. That is why you are a twat.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Bob Emmett wrote:
That's not what I called him.
I didn't say you did.
Bob Emmett wrote:
Perhaps we need a tag.
Perhaps we need a segue tag.
Ilíon wrote:
Perhaps we need a segue tag.
Bob Emmett: He is the supreme leader of the world. Gillian: <segue>That whole "leader of the free-world" thingie is just BS. But, in any event, Zero, The Won, is at best but the "reader of the free-world."</segue> Yep, works for me.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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This is true, but then the last time there was a Queen of England the USA didn't exist. However many presidents have bowed to Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. Incidentally, would an American President write to a pointles little weenie? I Think Not. I have a letter from Bill, and you do not. Reason, you are a twat who knows nothing and exists in an imaginary land where you believe the truth is what you think. Obama Bows[^] Now F*ck off you C*nt
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
modified on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:55 AM
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hammerstein05 wrote:
I'm pretty certain that I've seen American presidents bow to the Queen of England. I've seen them bow for other leaders as well.
You have never seen a US President bow to anyone: it just isn't done.
hammerstein05 wrote:
How is respecting another persons position or culture shameful? It shows a respect and understanding of another person.
One respects one's own culture first. Unless, of course, one is into patronizing others. This fool isn't showing anyone respect, any more than Jimmy Carter was by making a big deal of toting his own luggage off Air Force One.
Ilíon wrote:
You have never seen a US President bow to anyone: it just isn't done.
Associated Press has several photographs of Dwight D Eisenhower bowing, even to General de Gaulle. They were in blogs all over the web during the last "US Presidents don't bow" whingefest.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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Ilíon wrote:
Perhaps we need a segue tag.
Bob Emmett: He is the supreme leader of the world. Gillian: <segue>That whole "leader of the free-world" thingie is just BS. But, in any event, Zero, The Won, is at best but the "reader of the free-world."</segue> Yep, works for me.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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This is true, but then the last time there was a Queen of England the USA didn't exist. However many presidents have bowed to Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. Incidentally, would an American President write to a pointles little weenie? I Think Not. I have a letter from Bill, and you do not. Reason, you are a twat who knows nothing and exists in an imaginary land where you believe the truth is what you think. Obama Bows[^] Now F*ck off you C*nt
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
modified on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:55 AM
Dalek Dave wrote:
This is true, but then the last time there was a Queen of England the USA didn't exist. However many presidents have bowed to Her Majesty, Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith. Incidentally, would an American President write to a pointles little weenie? I Think Not. I have a letter from Bill, and you do not. Reason, you are a twat who knows nothing and exists in an imaginary land where you believe the truth is what you think.
Dip-shit! You're not even a citizen ... and you clearly hate it that I am a citizen. Before this imposter (who obviously isn't even an American, no matter where he was born), no US President has ever bowed to anyone; no US citizen is supposed to bow to anyone. Why don't you provide some factual evidence to support your false claims? Well, I mean, aside from the fact that there exists no evidence that any US President has ever bowed to anyone.
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Ilíon wrote:
Who cares what you wonder?
Responded the polite American intellectual.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
Bob Emmett wrote:
Responded the polite American intellectual.
You pathetic person: I've never claimed to be either "polite" (*) nor an intellectual. (*) The quotes are because you people don't understand *that* concept either; you foolishly imagine that one must be a doormat to be "polite."
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Bob Emmett wrote:
Bob Emmett Vermin: He is the supreme leader of the world. Ilíon: That whole "leader of the free-world" thingie is just BS. But, in any event, Zero, The Won, is at best but the "reader of the free-world." Bob Vermin: Yep, works for me.
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Ilíon wrote:
Bob Emmett Vermin:
Great put-down, Gillian. I am crushed by your massive intellect.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos