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  • D Distind

    The sense of entitlement that Americans are so proud of puts a bit of fear into them over anyone who might be able to take their stuff, even if they willingly enter into the contract that says they can do that. Little banks are really exempt from that, they're just more likely to be intimidated.

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    Which entitlements? What contracts are we entering? Can you explain a bit?

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      Alex hogarth wrote:

      No I am basing his intelligence on his position compared to his peers

      No, you were not. Again, you said: "he seems to be a might more successful than you, this would imply that he has more intelligence."

      Alex hogarth wrote:

      he is by position one of the top of his professions, you however are not, this would imply that he was more successful then you, now yes this is not a "proof positive" way of judging intelligence it is certainly a valid way of doing so.

      No, that is a terrible argument. Just because I'm employed at the age of 25 doesn't mean I have less intelligence than someone toward the top of the crew. All it means is that I'm working for that crew. Honestly I've been thinking of starting a business of my own, once I have paid down my debts. Does student debt mean that I have less intelligence? I think your logic is flawed. There may be a correlation, but it is not cause/effect. Therefore this statistical analysis of yours is invalid. Strike two, try again. You're really hurting your own argument by trying to cause me pain here.

      Alex hogarth wrote:

      I am also judging it oh the peception of your Intelligence as shown on here, now again this is not error free but would suggest a trend.

      That's your own observation, but I seriously doubt your lack of understanding statistics and trends.

      Alex hogarth wrote:

      Yes you may be his equal if you had choosen his profession, however should this have been the case you prove not to be his equal though demonstration of poor choice.

      Don't compare apples to oranges. It doesn't work.

      Alex hogarth wrote:

      You claim prejudicial, whilst I claim that you have an opinion of yourself that has not been supported, you were and are the one claiming that he is the most powerfull man on the planet and this makes him the most intellligent (not something I Have claimed)

      A) I have an opinion that is open-minded, while you're the one comparing me to Bernanke. If you compare me to him, then you have to compare yourself to him and I as well. That's all I'm saying. And it seems that your unwilling to do so, therefore I suggest you cut it out. B) You're the one that originally claimed that he is more intelligent than I, and that is unfair, and you know it.

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      josda1000 wrote:

      Alex hogarth wrote: No I am basing his intelligence on his position compared to his peers No, you were not. Again, you said: "he seems to be a might more successful than you, this would imply that he has more intelligence." .

      OK well we will try again, Bernanke registered a sats score of 1590, he has a BA from Harvard and a PH D from MIT Bernanke taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business from 1979 until 1985, was a visiting professor at New York University and went on to become a tenured professor at Princeton University in the Department of Economics. He chaired that department from 1996 until September 2002, when he went on public service leave. He resigned his position at Princeton July 1, 2005. now please state your claim! I will judge ye by your words and yet you think I should credit you with Intelligence I have yet to see.

      josda1000 wrote:

      I have no idea what you're talking about here. If you use gold, then gold would have no "price". Everything in the market would be valued against the gold. There would be no regulation of price except in the market itself. Yes... paper is easier to carry. We could still use gold certificates.

      shows a basic misunderstanding of markets, and if you use gold certs then why not use the dollar? and whose dollars are you going to retract? yours? because iam sure it aint going to be those of big business

      josda1000 wrote:

      Again, stop putting words in my mouth. This is becoming a "straw man" argument, this "Cars shouldn't be around and we should be back using horses". I've heard this too much on this site already. There are four parts to a good money: Divisibility Unit of Account Value Portability That's what gold is, it's not about how shiny it is. The point is that it makes for a great unit of account and has value, because humans understand innately that it is rare. It's also small enough to fit in pockets. It's not about being easy to mine. Mining is not an easy task. And it's not about corrosion; if that were true, we wouldn't have ever used copper as money, and we wouldn't use paper because it breaks and tears. And it is definitely not obsolete, we still trade it on the stock markets. I think you really need to learn and understand the basics of money before you continue arguing your points here. Hmmm.... after all of that, maybe I wouldn't be such a bad ec

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        josda1000 wrote:

        Alex hogarth wrote: No I am basing his intelligence on his position compared to his peers No, you were not. Again, you said: "he seems to be a might more successful than you, this would imply that he has more intelligence." .

        OK well we will try again, Bernanke registered a sats score of 1590, he has a BA from Harvard and a PH D from MIT Bernanke taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business from 1979 until 1985, was a visiting professor at New York University and went on to become a tenured professor at Princeton University in the Department of Economics. He chaired that department from 1996 until September 2002, when he went on public service leave. He resigned his position at Princeton July 1, 2005. now please state your claim! I will judge ye by your words and yet you think I should credit you with Intelligence I have yet to see.

        josda1000 wrote:

        I have no idea what you're talking about here. If you use gold, then gold would have no "price". Everything in the market would be valued against the gold. There would be no regulation of price except in the market itself. Yes... paper is easier to carry. We could still use gold certificates.

        shows a basic misunderstanding of markets, and if you use gold certs then why not use the dollar? and whose dollars are you going to retract? yours? because iam sure it aint going to be those of big business

        josda1000 wrote:

        Again, stop putting words in my mouth. This is becoming a "straw man" argument, this "Cars shouldn't be around and we should be back using horses". I've heard this too much on this site already. There are four parts to a good money: Divisibility Unit of Account Value Portability That's what gold is, it's not about how shiny it is. The point is that it makes for a great unit of account and has value, because humans understand innately that it is rare. It's also small enough to fit in pockets. It's not about being easy to mine. Mining is not an easy task. And it's not about corrosion; if that were true, we wouldn't have ever used copper as money, and we wouldn't use paper because it breaks and tears. And it is definitely not obsolete, we still trade it on the stock markets. I think you really need to learn and understand the basics of money before you continue arguing your points here. Hmmm.... after all of that, maybe I wouldn't be such a bad ec

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        Alex hogarth wrote:

        now please state your claim! I will judge ye by your words and yet you think I should credit you with Intelligence I have yet to see.

        I'm not claiming a damned thing! I'm asking that you keep an open mind! All you're doing is DISCREDITING me, without cause! I don't care what you think, or whether you credit me or not. I care not what you think. Because apparently, you're comparing me to someone without a reason, STILL! I don't care what he got on a standardized test. I don't care that he went to Princeton. My uncle went to Princeton and I did not. Am I inferior to my uncle? Are you really going to go that low here for no reason at all? I'm on the same message board as you. Are we all more stupid for that very fact? I'm a programmer. Are all programmers inferior to the economist? You tell me to get real. I think we can't get more real than that, if that's what you base all intelligence on.

        Alex hogarth wrote:

        Bernanke registered a sats score of 1590, he has a BA from Harvard and a PH D from MIT Bernanke taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business from 1979 until 1985, was a visiting professor at New York University and went on to become a tenured professor at Princeton University in the Department of Economics.

        Good for him. Does it really matter in the long run? Are you going to go through life trying to beat the next guy?

        Alex hogarth wrote:

        shows a basic misunderstanding of markets, and if you use gold certs then why not use the dollar?

        Basic misunderstanding indeed. Shows that you don't know the difference between Fiat and Hard money. A bank note is not the same as a certificate. Certificates keep the government from printing extra money out of thin air on a whim. Bank notes are just IOUs, and can be printed at any time for any reason, as long as it is "paid back", which it never really is. Notice the public debt. Notice the inflation.

        Alex hogarth wrote:

        and whose dollars are you going to retract? yours? because iam sure it aint going to be those of big business

        As the money is retracted back (money is paid back to the Fed from the major corporate banks with interest), the Fed would just not allow more printing at the Printing and Engraving, and would not add more assets to the balance sheet. They would start t

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          Alex hogarth wrote:

          now please state your claim! I will judge ye by your words and yet you think I should credit you with Intelligence I have yet to see.

          I'm not claiming a damned thing! I'm asking that you keep an open mind! All you're doing is DISCREDITING me, without cause! I don't care what you think, or whether you credit me or not. I care not what you think. Because apparently, you're comparing me to someone without a reason, STILL! I don't care what he got on a standardized test. I don't care that he went to Princeton. My uncle went to Princeton and I did not. Am I inferior to my uncle? Are you really going to go that low here for no reason at all? I'm on the same message board as you. Are we all more stupid for that very fact? I'm a programmer. Are all programmers inferior to the economist? You tell me to get real. I think we can't get more real than that, if that's what you base all intelligence on.

          Alex hogarth wrote:

          Bernanke registered a sats score of 1590, he has a BA from Harvard and a PH D from MIT Bernanke taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business from 1979 until 1985, was a visiting professor at New York University and went on to become a tenured professor at Princeton University in the Department of Economics.

          Good for him. Does it really matter in the long run? Are you going to go through life trying to beat the next guy?

          Alex hogarth wrote:

          shows a basic misunderstanding of markets, and if you use gold certs then why not use the dollar?

          Basic misunderstanding indeed. Shows that you don't know the difference between Fiat and Hard money. A bank note is not the same as a certificate. Certificates keep the government from printing extra money out of thin air on a whim. Bank notes are just IOUs, and can be printed at any time for any reason, as long as it is "paid back", which it never really is. Notice the public debt. Notice the inflation.

          Alex hogarth wrote:

          and whose dollars are you going to retract? yours? because iam sure it aint going to be those of big business

          As the money is retracted back (money is paid back to the Fed from the major corporate banks with interest), the Fed would just not allow more printing at the Printing and Engraving, and would not add more assets to the balance sheet. They would start t

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          josda1000 wrote:

          I'm not claiming a damned thing! I'm asking that you keep an open mind! All you're doing is DISCREDITING me, without cause! I don't care what you think, or whether you credit me or not. I care not what you think. Because apparently, you're comparing me to someone without a reason, STILL! I don't care what he got on a standardized test. I don't care that he went to Princeton. My uncle went to Princeton and I did not. Am I inferior to my uncle? Are you really going to go that low here for no reason at all? I'm on the same message board as you. Are we all more stupid for that very fact? I'm a programmer. Are all programmers inferior to the economist? You tell me to get real. I think we can't get more real than that, if that's what you base all intelligence on.

          wow a temper tantrum, you need to contact reality, looking at this reply I would guess that YES you are inferior to your uncle, you refuse to accept any form of judgement as to intelligence this is a behavour of those with inferority complexes, you cannot even read the post he went to Harvard and MIT you did not yet you claim that this proves nothing, untill you can back up your side I will carry on thinking you not to be his equal

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          Alex hogarth wrote: gold is not portable No of course not. It was only used for the last five thousand years. Alex hogarth wrote: just why do you think paper and credit was invented? to avoid carrying all that heavy easly stealable gold, it is also open to fraud, can you tell pure gold from 18 caret? So many things wrong with this idea. A) "to avoid carrying all that heavy..." AHHH!! So it IS portable! B) "easly stealable gold" I'd say it's just as easy to steal a credit card, debit card or fiat currency. C) "it is also open to fraud" So is every other currency ever thought up. D) "can you tell pure gold from 18 caret?" Can you tell the difference between a real or fake $20 bill?

          realy? when was the last time gold as a currency was carried? certainly not in your lifetime and not even in your parents parents parents, and most other countries whilst still using gold used it only as portion of its currency not its whole. a) define portable! yes you could carry enough to buy a bagel but i doubt you could carry the value of a house b)not is not, once I have your gold it is impossible for you to do anything to stop it, whilst in all the cases you mention you can s

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            josda1000 wrote:

            I'm not claiming a damned thing! I'm asking that you keep an open mind! All you're doing is DISCREDITING me, without cause! I don't care what you think, or whether you credit me or not. I care not what you think. Because apparently, you're comparing me to someone without a reason, STILL! I don't care what he got on a standardized test. I don't care that he went to Princeton. My uncle went to Princeton and I did not. Am I inferior to my uncle? Are you really going to go that low here for no reason at all? I'm on the same message board as you. Are we all more stupid for that very fact? I'm a programmer. Are all programmers inferior to the economist? You tell me to get real. I think we can't get more real than that, if that's what you base all intelligence on.

            wow a temper tantrum, you need to contact reality, looking at this reply I would guess that YES you are inferior to your uncle, you refuse to accept any form of judgement as to intelligence this is a behavour of those with inferority complexes, you cannot even read the post he went to Harvard and MIT you did not yet you claim that this proves nothing, untill you can back up your side I will carry on thinking you not to be his equal

            josda1000 wrote:

            Alex hogarth wrote: gold is not portable No of course not. It was only used for the last five thousand years. Alex hogarth wrote: just why do you think paper and credit was invented? to avoid carrying all that heavy easly stealable gold, it is also open to fraud, can you tell pure gold from 18 caret? So many things wrong with this idea. A) "to avoid carrying all that heavy..." AHHH!! So it IS portable! B) "easly stealable gold" I'd say it's just as easy to steal a credit card, debit card or fiat currency. C) "it is also open to fraud" So is every other currency ever thought up. D) "can you tell pure gold from 18 caret?" Can you tell the difference between a real or fake $20 bill?

            realy? when was the last time gold as a currency was carried? certainly not in your lifetime and not even in your parents parents parents, and most other countries whilst still using gold used it only as portion of its currency not its whole. a) define portable! yes you could carry enough to buy a bagel but i doubt you could carry the value of a house b)not is not, once I have your gold it is impossible for you to do anything to stop it, whilst in all the cases you mention you can s

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            You, sir, are an asshole.

            Alex hogarth wrote:

            you refuse to accept any form of judgement as to intelligence this is a behavour of those with inferority complexes

            I don't have an inferiority complex. We were supposed to have a debate.

            Alex hogarth wrote:

            your arrogence is amazing, you think that somehow you are a match for someones intelligence when he has a track record of his ability yet you have none

            Have you asked for my track record? I don't remember that.

            Alex hogarth wrote:

            you hide behind "not believing in testing" or formal schooling yet expect me to take you seriously.

            I never said I don't believe in testing. Again, take the words out of my mouth, why don't you.

            Alex hogarth wrote:

            yet nothing you have done or posted gives me any reason to respect your intelligence

            OK. That's up to you.

            Alex hogarth wrote:

            your rcent rants tend to reinforce my opinion

            What rants? I've given you my assessment as to why Bernanke shouldn't have been reconfirmed, and have been trying to defend myself while you just keep insulting me. I give up and I have no fun in this at all. I'm sure you're smiling and having a good laugh though. That's cool, I'm glad you had fun. Peace.

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              josda1000 wrote:

              But that's precisely what politics is: it's about instinct and getting a vote based on, not facts, but charisma. I'm sorry, but this is hypocritical.

              I am going to highlight this pearl of wisdom. This is actually dead on in such a fundamental way it is painful. Every time I see a certain quittingest governor putting down our president I realize this. Every time I see this same amazingly ignorant individual basking in being incapable of thinking things through, a hypocrite, or just plain unintellectual I want to choke everyone that prays for the day they can vote for another idiot into office. I will say this on the original matter. I really don't care who thinks whatshisbucket looks like a crook, weasel, vermin, or feminine hygine bag. If we gave headlines to such matters we would have seen a lot of such talk about more former presidents than I can remember. It's not important.

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              I appreciate your highlight... but I think headlines already give too many stories about the Presidents lives. That's politics. But yeah, it's not important.

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                You, sir, are an asshole.

                Alex hogarth wrote:

                you refuse to accept any form of judgement as to intelligence this is a behavour of those with inferority complexes

                I don't have an inferiority complex. We were supposed to have a debate.

                Alex hogarth wrote:

                your arrogence is amazing, you think that somehow you are a match for someones intelligence when he has a track record of his ability yet you have none

                Have you asked for my track record? I don't remember that.

                Alex hogarth wrote:

                you hide behind "not believing in testing" or formal schooling yet expect me to take you seriously.

                I never said I don't believe in testing. Again, take the words out of my mouth, why don't you.

                Alex hogarth wrote:

                yet nothing you have done or posted gives me any reason to respect your intelligence

                OK. That's up to you.

                Alex hogarth wrote:

                your rcent rants tend to reinforce my opinion

                What rants? I've given you my assessment as to why Bernanke shouldn't have been reconfirmed, and have been trying to defend myself while you just keep insulting me. I give up and I have no fun in this at all. I'm sure you're smiling and having a good laugh though. That's cool, I'm glad you had fun. Peace.

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                you resort to profanities and claim I have issues lol No we dont have a debate, we a rant by you with no substance I asked you to state your claim after quoting his cv you replied that you dont care what he got in standardised testing this implies that you dont believe in testing, otherwise it would mean that you know you are les intelligence but refuse to admit it. try rereading your posts for rants as for insults, all i orginally said is that based on evidence you are inferior in intelligence to Bernanke, not that your intelligence is substandard, in fact I have only asserted that based on your posts my oppinion of your intelligence is dropping rapidly as for puting words into mouths, one should ensure one is without sin before casting stones ps A point I missed my quote <> your reply (BTW... just because ONE university does a study doesn't make it conclusive that the Fed doesn't do shady deals. Not saying that it's crime per-se, but I'd say that any deals behind closed doors with "government entities" should be considered a problem.) see a problem here? certainly quick to jump to wrong conclusions I think

                Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                  you resort to profanities and claim I have issues lol No we dont have a debate, we a rant by you with no substance I asked you to state your claim after quoting his cv you replied that you dont care what he got in standardised testing this implies that you dont believe in testing, otherwise it would mean that you know you are les intelligence but refuse to admit it. try rereading your posts for rants as for insults, all i orginally said is that based on evidence you are inferior in intelligence to Bernanke, not that your intelligence is substandard, in fact I have only asserted that based on your posts my oppinion of your intelligence is dropping rapidly as for puting words into mouths, one should ensure one is without sin before casting stones ps A point I missed my quote <> your reply (BTW... just because ONE university does a study doesn't make it conclusive that the Fed doesn't do shady deals. Not saying that it's crime per-se, but I'd say that any deals behind closed doors with "government entities" should be considered a problem.) see a problem here? certainly quick to jump to wrong conclusions I think

                  Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                  Do you really want to continue this? I mean, really? Without namecalling from here on out? We can restart this if you really wish. Just give me the nod.

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                    Do you really want to continue this? I mean, really? Without namecalling from here on out? We can restart this if you really wish. Just give me the nod.

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                    why? all i orginally said was that Bernanke was more sucessfull and likely to be superior in intelligence yet you were calling him the clown, I still say this, you however choose to take this as a mortal insult, so be it I cannot help this and care little. As to the Fed, I have no interest in this as it does not concern me, it is a US thing and not for me to comment on how you run your country

                    Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                      why? all i orginally said was that Bernanke was more sucessfull and likely to be superior in intelligence yet you were calling him the clown, I still say this, you however choose to take this as a mortal insult, so be it I cannot help this and care little. As to the Fed, I have no interest in this as it does not concern me, it is a US thing and not for me to comment on how you run your country

                      Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                      This was my reason as to why I'd called him a clown. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3360677/Re-CNBC-Colts-player-says-Ben-Bernanke-Looks-Like-.aspx[^] And anyone that is "dissed" or insulted would obviously feel insulted. Yes, he's a smart guy, I'm not denying that. But I'm not saying that "testing is wrong" or whatever you said. I took an independent study in computer graphics. I had a 2.9 grade point average. I got a programming job only four months after getting out of school, and have had it ever since. I was Director of the Year two years ago. I got a 1200 on my SATs. Sure, I don't "measure up" to Bernanke, but I don't appreciate being talked down to by someone I don't know. I don't see you posting your own accomplishments. And as to the Fed, yes, it does effect you. The Fed makes arrangments with governments and companies all over the world. It may not effect you directly and you may not notice it, but yes it does. However I've felt, I've appreciated the conversation. Why? Because I now know how hard it's going to be to get this message out on my show, and how much criticism I'm really going to get, and how much namecalling.

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                        This was my reason as to why I'd called him a clown. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/3360677/Re-CNBC-Colts-player-says-Ben-Bernanke-Looks-Like-.aspx[^] And anyone that is "dissed" or insulted would obviously feel insulted. Yes, he's a smart guy, I'm not denying that. But I'm not saying that "testing is wrong" or whatever you said. I took an independent study in computer graphics. I had a 2.9 grade point average. I got a programming job only four months after getting out of school, and have had it ever since. I was Director of the Year two years ago. I got a 1200 on my SATs. Sure, I don't "measure up" to Bernanke, but I don't appreciate being talked down to by someone I don't know. I don't see you posting your own accomplishments. And as to the Fed, yes, it does effect you. The Fed makes arrangments with governments and companies all over the world. It may not effect you directly and you may not notice it, but yes it does. However I've felt, I've appreciated the conversation. Why? Because I now know how hard it's going to be to get this message out on my show, and how much criticism I'm really going to get, and how much namecalling.

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                        Again why? you seem more than happy not only to talk down to me but to insult me, no you have never asked my accomplishments maybe you should before ranting off, but no you have your opinion and noone can think otherwise, you claim to be open minded but are as closed as css. yes it does affect me indirectly and I will discuss issues in my own country but refuse to comment on the internal politics of another country, I have no say in waht the fed does and thats the bottom line, but from other posters comments and your rants I would think that the Fed was a worthwhile institution in fact from what I can see anything that you and Css are against is worth considering (you two makes excelent black properganderists) as for your show, by all accounts it shouldnt be hard to get your message across as the only people likely to be watching are css clones

                        Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                          Again why? you seem more than happy not only to talk down to me but to insult me, no you have never asked my accomplishments maybe you should before ranting off, but no you have your opinion and noone can think otherwise, you claim to be open minded but are as closed as css. yes it does affect me indirectly and I will discuss issues in my own country but refuse to comment on the internal politics of another country, I have no say in waht the fed does and thats the bottom line, but from other posters comments and your rants I would think that the Fed was a worthwhile institution in fact from what I can see anything that you and Css are against is worth considering (you two makes excelent black properganderists) as for your show, by all accounts it shouldnt be hard to get your message across as the only people likely to be watching are css clones

                          Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          you seem more than happy not only to talk down to me but to insult me

                          Maybe I am talking down to you. But at this point I think I have more than enough reason. As for insulting, I don't remember doing so.

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          no you have never asked my accomplishments maybe you should before ranting off

                          Now this is hypocritical. You did precisely that to me.

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          but no you have your opinion and noone can think otherwise

                          Again, hypocritical.

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          you claim to be open minded but are as closed as css

                          We all get closed minded once in awhile, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about here. You don't seem to realize that debating is not supposed to be about personal attacks. When it gets to that level, it gets bad. Why do I feel attacked? Why am I mad in this thread? Because that's what you did, you attacked.

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          from other posters comments and your rants I would think that the Fed was a worthwhile institution in fact from what I can see anything that you and Css are against is worth considering (you two makes excelent black properganderists)

                          Why are you the ONLY person who has this opinion of me? Ian and Christian don't agree with you (or at least, they haven't said it to my face). I applaud you for having the gall to do so, honestly, no joke. If you can tell me straight to my face, you're an honest person. But really, do I rant? The way I see it, I make a logical argument about everything I talk about. Granted, I do talk about the same thing over and over, but at least you know my position, and I stand my ground. I'd say it's more than a rant. A rant has no backing. I have backing. Every time. And if I see that I'm flawed, I'll concede. I've done it before (even in this thread, when talking to Ian). If you're just going to call me a "black propagandist", you need to wake up a bit. I mean, really.

                          Alex hogarth wrote:

                          as for your show, by all accounts it shouldnt be hard to get your message across as the only people likely to be watching are css clones

                          Yes, because I'm exactly like CSS. Got it. More namecalling. You know, you're really good a

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                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            you seem more than happy not only to talk down to me but to insult me

                            Maybe I am talking down to you. But at this point I think I have more than enough reason. As for insulting, I don't remember doing so.

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            no you have never asked my accomplishments maybe you should before ranting off

                            Now this is hypocritical. You did precisely that to me.

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            but no you have your opinion and noone can think otherwise

                            Again, hypocritical.

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            you claim to be open minded but are as closed as css

                            We all get closed minded once in awhile, but I really don't think you know what you're talking about here. You don't seem to realize that debating is not supposed to be about personal attacks. When it gets to that level, it gets bad. Why do I feel attacked? Why am I mad in this thread? Because that's what you did, you attacked.

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            from other posters comments and your rants I would think that the Fed was a worthwhile institution in fact from what I can see anything that you and Css are against is worth considering (you two makes excelent black properganderists)

                            Why are you the ONLY person who has this opinion of me? Ian and Christian don't agree with you (or at least, they haven't said it to my face). I applaud you for having the gall to do so, honestly, no joke. If you can tell me straight to my face, you're an honest person. But really, do I rant? The way I see it, I make a logical argument about everything I talk about. Granted, I do talk about the same thing over and over, but at least you know my position, and I stand my ground. I'd say it's more than a rant. A rant has no backing. I have backing. Every time. And if I see that I'm flawed, I'll concede. I've done it before (even in this thread, when talking to Ian). If you're just going to call me a "black propagandist", you need to wake up a bit. I mean, really.

                            Alex hogarth wrote:

                            as for your show, by all accounts it shouldnt be hard to get your message across as the only people likely to be watching are css clones

                            Yes, because I'm exactly like CSS. Got it. More namecalling. You know, you're really good a

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                            Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                            ok whatever its too late for this rubbish, you think what you like

                            Go away and research the subject, analyze the options for and against, understand the problem and them come back when you agree with me.

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                              Alex hogarth wrote:

                              * but calling a game where the use of the foot v ball is an exception rather than a rule is a bit silly, especially when there is already a game of the same name that does use the foot! is this a example of the qualty of thinking of the US people?

                              I have a theory... I think it's called "football" because the thing they carry around looks more like a foot than a ball... It even has shoelaces! Honestly though, if "football" wants to become a REAL sport, they should invest a little money into buying a ball that's actually round.

                              Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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                              Ian Shlasko wrote:

                              if "football" wants to become a REAL sport, they should invest a little money into buying a ball that's actually round.

                              You mean like this one[^]? :wtf:

                              You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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