Some people need to let it go.
-
Oh go on, please start. I love a bit of banter! ;)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Sorry, not really in the mood.
-
Yea, I have noticed CPian's posts trying to be funny, and not to be a douche. He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change. Don't get me started on fat_bastard. I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts. AGW is not going to be anything but a political post the way he goes about it.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
He really is trying, sometimes a bit too hard, but he seems to want to change.
Yeah, and I"m all for that, no matter who it is. Which is why I was surprised by fat_boys accusations, although as he is stalking me, I'm sure he remembers my posts better than I do, but I as a rule certainly try to judge each posts on it's merits and not judge by the poster. How else is someone like CSS going to change, unless we let him ?
ragnaroknrol wrote:
I love how he keeps trying to ignore the ban in the lounge on obviously political posts.
Yes, he seems to be bleeding through the entire site now. Because some people in the soapbox 1.0 love in have told him he is a prophet who must make his message heard, or something.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
I've noticed a certain person with negative reputation has been in the lounge a lot lately. And almost every post is grey. Thing is, he's been trying to change his posts. Very few are whining, very few are attacks, and in fact most of the recent ones have been jokes, jests, poking fun at himself, or in general trying to change to not be a complete douchebag. And they keep 1 voting him. I don't get that. Yes, he has a history of being a twit, I get and understand that, but if his post is not deserving of a 1, he is sincerely trying to change and he is behaving, why give him a 1? I realize people may be expecting him to get stupid later, but for now why not use positive reinforcement to encourage him to keep trying to not be a douche? I may be a post whore, but I try and have fun and hope others do too. If he can change so that people aren't pissed at the universe whenever they see a post from him, why are we not helping him see it is a good thing? anyway /end rant
-
So many people here seem to take it far to seriously. We've all behaved like tools at one time or another.
I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
-
I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
-
I didn't! ;-)
I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you need a laugh, check out my Vodafone World of Difference application | If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
-
If every social rule are broken, then yes, it's a fault.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
-
I've noticed a certain person with negative reputation has been in the lounge a lot lately. And almost every post is grey. Thing is, he's been trying to change his posts. Very few are whining, very few are attacks, and in fact most of the recent ones have been jokes, jests, poking fun at himself, or in general trying to change to not be a complete douchebag. And they keep 1 voting him. I don't get that. Yes, he has a history of being a twit, I get and understand that, but if his post is not deserving of a 1, he is sincerely trying to change and he is behaving, why give him a 1? I realize people may be expecting him to get stupid later, but for now why not use positive reinforcement to encourage him to keep trying to not be a douche? I may be a post whore, but I try and have fun and hope others do too. If he can change so that people aren't pissed at the universe whenever they see a post from him, why are we not helping him see it is a good thing? anyway /end rant
I agree just univoting things is wrong. I [honestly] haven't univoted this guy except on a post's individual merit. I do admit to checking previous posts, which I mostly univoted on individual worth IMO. Since the "New Start" I have univoted far less, again on my opinion of the merit of that post. This is despite the fact I had an acutal run in with the guy, he tried to get me banned when I quoted one of the funnier conversations he had with Chris Maunder as a Sig. I'm finding his current behaviour worse than before, because, at least under his previous guises ("Teh programmer", and "The Artist Formerly known as the newest member") he went too far an got himself banned and went away from a while. I suspect this pattern will be repeated. It's interesting review this to see how many boxes are ticked: troll-tactics[^] Currently, the flooding of the relatively harmonious lounge with on-the-boundary-of-trolling posts is causing dischord, the existence of this thread is testimony to that. This is one of the more subtle troll tactics. I've just reviewed his last 200 messages, outside the non-technical he's been involved with < 10 threads, and frankly none of the questions or answers posted was "Properly" technical. Again another sign of trolling. I don't know whether he is a troll or not, but until I'm more sure of him I'm "not engaging" as much as possible.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter.
-
For the record, I think you're a self righteous, hypocritical moron. I have recently posted about a few people in the lounge, who blew my mind because I answered their programming question, and they then attacked me for it. However, I don't recall ever having a run in with CPianism, although I do recall speaking to him, I don't believe I am at the root of people's attitude towards him. He did post recently about his desire to change how he posts, and I advised him to do it instead of talking about it. Either way, it's kind of ironic that you'd make this post about me, when what you're doing is making me YOUR whipping boy, as is your wont. I guess you got mad at me for responding intelligently to your mindless AGW posts ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't recall ever having a run in with CPianism
Quite correct, I was mistaking him with one of the other people you villified in the lounge. Why do you do this so much? Surely if someone offends you you deal with it there and then. To bring the matter to general attention makes me think you either enjoy twisting the knife, or the public humiliation of that person. In any case the Lounge specifically states no flame wars or abuse. Dont you think that doing what you do id inflamatory?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
-
I agree just univoting things is wrong. I [honestly] haven't univoted this guy except on a post's individual merit. I do admit to checking previous posts, which I mostly univoted on individual worth IMO. Since the "New Start" I have univoted far less, again on my opinion of the merit of that post. This is despite the fact I had an acutal run in with the guy, he tried to get me banned when I quoted one of the funnier conversations he had with Chris Maunder as a Sig. I'm finding his current behaviour worse than before, because, at least under his previous guises ("Teh programmer", and "The Artist Formerly known as the newest member") he went too far an got himself banned and went away from a while. I suspect this pattern will be repeated. It's interesting review this to see how many boxes are ticked: troll-tactics[^] Currently, the flooding of the relatively harmonious lounge with on-the-boundary-of-trolling posts is causing dischord, the existence of this thread is testimony to that. This is one of the more subtle troll tactics. I've just reviewed his last 200 messages, outside the non-technical he's been involved with < 10 threads, and frankly none of the questions or answers posted was "Properly" technical. Again another sign of trolling. I don't know whether he is a troll or not, but until I'm more sure of him I'm "not engaging" as much as possible.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter.
This is the sort of attitude I think needs to be the norm. "Did this post suck?" Instead of "Is it this guy?" He seems to have quite a few people following his posts because the moment he steps out of line the post goes grey faster than a girl living in a trailer park loses her dress on prom night. It looks like he has at least been given some benefit of the doubt because the better posts get upvoted, average ones sit there and bad ones get dropped fast. And really, I think this community can and shoudl police itself this way. Fairly but with no reservations when it comes to smashing down trolls.
-
A lot of other people think differently to you Jorgen yet you would have them conform to your set of rules!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Oh shut up. You're just obtuse.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
-
Oh shut up. You're just obtuse.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
It's his hobby, didn't you know ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't recall ever having a run in with CPianism
Quite correct, I was mistaking him with one of the other people you villified in the lounge. Why do you do this so much? Surely if someone offends you you deal with it there and then. To bring the matter to general attention makes me think you either enjoy twisting the knife, or the public humiliation of that person. In any case the Lounge specifically states no flame wars or abuse. Dont you think that doing what you do id inflamatory?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
I've once done this recently. A guy asked a question. I answered it, but also suggested he buy a book to learn basics. He attacked me. I responded, still politely. He edited his post to replace his question with abuse for me. The whole sequence was unusually clueless, even for the programming forums, and I posted a link, not for support, but because I thought it was hilarious. I didn't abuse anyone in the lounge, nor did I flame anyone. This is, in any case, another example of the pot calling the kettle black. Why have you decided to try to spread your AGW drivel through the whole site ? Even CSS knows how to contain himself to one forum in his most extreme guise.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
-
I've once done this recently. A guy asked a question. I answered it, but also suggested he buy a book to learn basics. He attacked me. I responded, still politely. He edited his post to replace his question with abuse for me. The whole sequence was unusually clueless, even for the programming forums, and I posted a link, not for support, but because I thought it was hilarious. I didn't abuse anyone in the lounge, nor did I flame anyone. This is, in any case, another example of the pot calling the kettle black. Why have you decided to try to spread your AGW drivel through the whole site ? Even CSS knows how to contain himself to one forum in his most extreme guise.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
This is, in any case, another example of the pot calling the kettle black.
I dont pick on people in a public way. OK, pompous dicks like MArkWallace I will tear apart in a private battle, but I wont make that fight public. So I dont see why you can say I am guilty of what I am accusing you of. As for posting GW in the Lounge, I was specifically asked by other CP members to do so. And the result is interesting. The votes are a pretty even split, and in some quantity as you saw from my post in Oakmans forum, so there IS a 50% support for GW posts in the Lounge. And yet the other half try to delete the post as soon as possible and using non kid sister safe language post insults. Both of which ARE contrary to the rules of the Lounge. In fact, since you are the Moderator, why dont you do someting about this?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
-
Christian Graus wrote:
This is, in any case, another example of the pot calling the kettle black.
I dont pick on people in a public way. OK, pompous dicks like MArkWallace I will tear apart in a private battle, but I wont make that fight public. So I dont see why you can say I am guilty of what I am accusing you of. As for posting GW in the Lounge, I was specifically asked by other CP members to do so. And the result is interesting. The votes are a pretty even split, and in some quantity as you saw from my post in Oakmans forum, so there IS a 50% support for GW posts in the Lounge. And yet the other half try to delete the post as soon as possible and using non kid sister safe language post insults. Both of which ARE contrary to the rules of the Lounge. In fact, since you are the Moderator, why dont you do someting about this?
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
As for posting GW in the Lounge, I was specifically asked by other CP members to do so.
Oh, so you and your little circle jerk buddies decided to willfully pollute the lounge with your stupidity, and then bitch and cry when you get slapped down. God, what a bunch of little shitheads. Why don't you crawl back into Pokemon's little coffee klatsch where you belong? [edit] And I hope the point wasn't lost on you (although god knows you and your circle jerk buddies do seem to have trouble grasping the obvious...) For all of your attempt at motivating your brainless band and organizing a coup, an ad hoc, unmotivated group still outvoted you. Give it up. [/edit]
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:47 AM
-
fat_boy wrote:
As for posting GW in the Lounge, I was specifically asked by other CP members to do so.
Oh, so you and your little circle jerk buddies decided to willfully pollute the lounge with your stupidity, and then bitch and cry when you get slapped down. God, what a bunch of little shitheads. Why don't you crawl back into Pokemon's little coffee klatsch where you belong? [edit] And I hope the point wasn't lost on you (although god knows you and your circle jerk buddies do seem to have trouble grasping the obvious...) For all of your attempt at motivating your brainless band and organizing a coup, an ad hoc, unmotivated group still outvoted you. Give it up. [/edit]
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
modified on Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:47 AM