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There Is No Right to Health Care.

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    agree with this completely. It's the real deal, those who support socialized, subsidized, highly regulated, bureaucratic nightmare healthcare are totally ignorant of the real consequences of those systems and only view it with the perspective that was taught to them through a lifetime a propaganda and dependency on government handouts and ridiculous laws. Ron Paul March 18, 2010 Statement before the United States House of Representatives, September 23, 2009 Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government. Points to consider: 1.) No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty. 2.) If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual. 3.) Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism. 4.) More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices.. 5.) Government does have an important role to play in facilitating the delivery of all goods and services in an ethical and efficient manner. 6.) First, government should do no harm. It should get out of the way and repeal all the laws that have contributed to the mess we have. 7.) The costs are obviously too high but in solving this problem one cannot ignore the debasement of the currency as a major factor. 8.) Bureaucrats and other third parties must never be allowed to interfere in the doctor/patient relationship. Laws dealing with bad outcomes and prohibiting doctors from entering into voluntary agreements with their patients must be repealed. Tort laws play a significant role in pushing costs higher, prompting unnecessary treatment and excessive testing. Patients deserve the compensation; the attorneys do not. 10.) Insurance sales should be legalized nationally across state lines to increase competition among the insurance companies.

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      agree with this completely. It's the real deal, those who support socialized, subsidized, highly regulated, bureaucratic nightmare healthcare are totally ignorant of the real consequences of those systems and only view it with the perspective that was taught to them through a lifetime a propaganda and dependency on government handouts and ridiculous laws. Ron Paul March 18, 2010 Statement before the United States House of Representatives, September 23, 2009 Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government. Points to consider: 1.) No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty. 2.) If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual. 3.) Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism. 4.) More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices.. 5.) Government does have an important role to play in facilitating the delivery of all goods and services in an ethical and efficient manner. 6.) First, government should do no harm. It should get out of the way and repeal all the laws that have contributed to the mess we have. 7.) The costs are obviously too high but in solving this problem one cannot ignore the debasement of the currency as a major factor. 8.) Bureaucrats and other third parties must never be allowed to interfere in the doctor/patient relationship. Laws dealing with bad outcomes and prohibiting doctors from entering into voluntary agreements with their patients must be repealed. Tort laws play a significant role in pushing costs higher, prompting unnecessary treatment and excessive testing. Patients deserve the compensation; the attorneys do not. 10.) Insurance sales should be legalized nationally across state lines to increase competition among the insurance companies.

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      NandoMan
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      Here in Colombia we have a system similar (not exactly the same) to what you are proposing. It is a complete failure.

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        agree with this completely. It's the real deal, those who support socialized, subsidized, highly regulated, bureaucratic nightmare healthcare are totally ignorant of the real consequences of those systems and only view it with the perspective that was taught to them through a lifetime a propaganda and dependency on government handouts and ridiculous laws. Ron Paul March 18, 2010 Statement before the United States House of Representatives, September 23, 2009 Government has been mismanaging medical care for more than 45 years; for every problem it has created it has responded by exponentially expanding the role of government. Points to consider: 1.) No one has a right to medical care. If one assumes such a right, it endorses the notion that some individuals have a right to someone else’s life and property. This totally contradicts the principles of liberty. 2.) If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual. 3.) Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism. 4.) More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices.. 5.) Government does have an important role to play in facilitating the delivery of all goods and services in an ethical and efficient manner. 6.) First, government should do no harm. It should get out of the way and repeal all the laws that have contributed to the mess we have. 7.) The costs are obviously too high but in solving this problem one cannot ignore the debasement of the currency as a major factor. 8.) Bureaucrats and other third parties must never be allowed to interfere in the doctor/patient relationship. Laws dealing with bad outcomes and prohibiting doctors from entering into voluntary agreements with their patients must be repealed. Tort laws play a significant role in pushing costs higher, prompting unnecessary treatment and excessive testing. Patients deserve the compensation; the attorneys do not. 10.) Insurance sales should be legalized nationally across state lines to increase competition among the insurance companies.

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        agree with this completely.

        That means it's definitely not worth reading. (Gosh, Captain SeeVee, your Cut & Paste powers are failing.)

        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        There Is No Right to Health Care.

        True. Nor to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, either.

        Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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          Here in Colombia we have a system similar (not exactly the same) to what you are proposing. It is a complete failure.

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          Look like in your country the government spends almost 40% of it's GDP with a debt of over 50% GDP with inflation of over 5.5%. That is nothing like the system I am proposing.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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            Look like in your country the government spends almost 40% of it's GDP with a debt of over 50% GDP with inflation of over 5.5%. That is nothing like the system I am proposing.

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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            NandoMan
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            I tought we were talking about health

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              I tought we were talking about health

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              I'm talking about why your system is a complete failure. It sure isn't because of the policies outlined by Ron Paul. Its because of government spending and destructive regulations.

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                I'm talking about why your system is a complete failure. It sure isn't because of the policies outlined by Ron Paul. Its because of government spending and destructive regulations.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                If you're 'talking' then why did you not respond to any of the points raised ? I posted at length about why your post is uneducated drivel. If you cannot respond, or if you don't want to, the end result is the same. Don't post if you can't defend your views.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Look like in your country the government spends almost 40% of it's GDP with a debt of over 50% GDP with inflation of over 5.5%. That is nothing like the system I am proposing.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Look like in your country the government spends almost 40% of it's GDP with a debt of over 50% GDP with inflation of over 5.5%.

                  Looks as if your government spends over 40% of its GDP, with a debt of just over 10% (sorry, forgot the 'off balance sheet' items) just over 500% of GDP. Not much inflation - 2.14%, but you frequently tell us that hyperinflation is imminent, so I guess that will be a tad more than 5.5%?

                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  I'm talking about why your system is a complete failure.

                  :rolleyes:

                  Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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