There is no right to be a complete moron
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Our system is flawed because of government intervention on all levels. The market is not permitted to work in the way we all would like because the government controls it, and now they want even more control. You think because someone else is going to pay for your bills that makes it cheaper. I would just like to smash you. The healthcare bill is a bailout to the insurance companies, a robbery, and criminally destructive.
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personnally I am begining to think that the system is flawed due to idiots like you. how is the govenment controlling the markets? - your view not a bunch of propergander for a politico you just want the poor to die without healthcare - you only want healthcare to be available to the wealthy. you think that the amount you pay for insurance covers the medical bill? you are short of a lot of brain cells. someone else already pays for your mental health problems if this was the case then Insurance companies would not exist it would be a pure savings account - one in which yyou couldnt get ill untill you had enough in to cover the bill... I cannot understand how you think goverment run health care cannot be cheaper - the govement is not committed to scimming 15% of the money paid in to a favoured few - private health care is, so if its properly run you have to pay in 15% less for the same service!
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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personnally I am begining to think that the system is flawed due to idiots like you. how is the govenment controlling the markets? - your view not a bunch of propergander for a politico you just want the poor to die without healthcare - you only want healthcare to be available to the wealthy. you think that the amount you pay for insurance covers the medical bill? you are short of a lot of brain cells. someone else already pays for your mental health problems if this was the case then Insurance companies would not exist it would be a pure savings account - one in which yyou couldnt get ill untill you had enough in to cover the bill... I cannot understand how you think goverment run health care cannot be cheaper - the govement is not committed to scimming 15% of the money paid in to a favoured few - private health care is, so if its properly run you have to pay in 15% less for the same service!
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
Go lick the boot of you NHS masters. Tell blair and brown how you are a good slave.
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Our system is flawed because of government intervention on all levels. The market is not permitted to work in the way we all would like because the government controls it, and now they want even more control. You think because someone else is going to pay for your bills that makes it cheaper. I would just like to smash you. The healthcare bill is a bailout to the insurance companies, a robbery, and criminally destructive.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I would just like to smash you.
Apart from the fact that you lack the ability to smash anyone, and you would shit your panties if I was there.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I would just like to smash you.
Apart from the fact that you lack the ability to smash anyone, and you would shit your panties if I was there.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Naa, you would fall on your ass and then I would just stomp you out and repeatedly kick your face with my steel toed boot.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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Go lick the boot of you NHS masters. Tell blair and brown how you are a good slave.
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its a good job you arnt here or you would be sampling said health care personnally - do the world a favour and get professional help you need proper help drugs instead of those contaimated weeds you smoke
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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Our system is flawed because of government intervention on all levels. The market is not permitted to work in the way we all would like because the government controls it, and now they want even more control. You think because someone else is going to pay for your bills that makes it cheaper. I would just like to smash you. The healthcare bill is a bailout to the insurance companies, a robbery, and criminally destructive.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The healthcare bill is a bailout to the insurance companies
Funny, looks to me like they're actually LOWERING the profits of insurance companies, not bailing them out.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
a robbery
The only ones losing money are the insurance companies... So are you against them GETTING money, or against them LOSING money? Do you support or oppose them?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and criminally destructive
What's being destroyed? And don't give me that "it's destroying liberty" crap, or more of your metaphysical complaints about things not agreeing with your vision. What tangible things is it destroying?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Naa, you would fall on your ass and then I would just stomp you out and repeatedly kick your face with my steel toed boot.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Are you trying to get yourself banned? re-posting moderated threads is a sure way of going about it, and it is so childish are you sure your old enough to be on here without parental supervision?
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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Naa, you would fall on your ass and then I would just stomp you out and repeatedly kick your face with my steel toed boot.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
You are so funny. You: Effeminate, scrawny, spotty-face mummy's boy who likes playing with himself. Me: 6'2" Ex-army, Rugby playing, stud-muffin. No Contest, I have harder turds than you. Now go back to loserville and deliver those pizzas, you proctological dribble merchant.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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personnally I am begining to think that the system is flawed due to idiots like you. how is the govenment controlling the markets? - your view not a bunch of propergander for a politico you just want the poor to die without healthcare - you only want healthcare to be available to the wealthy. you think that the amount you pay for insurance covers the medical bill? you are short of a lot of brain cells. someone else already pays for your mental health problems if this was the case then Insurance companies would not exist it would be a pure savings account - one in which yyou couldnt get ill untill you had enough in to cover the bill... I cannot understand how you think goverment run health care cannot be cheaper - the govement is not committed to scimming 15% of the money paid in to a favoured few - private health care is, so if its properly run you have to pay in 15% less for the same service!
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
Alex hogarth wrote:
you just want the poor to die without healthcare
I want them to pay for themselves. If they can't pay for themselves then they had better make sure that they can or suffer the consequences. That is how life works.
Alex hogarth wrote:
you only want healthcare to be available to the wealthy.
Healthcare is available to those who have jobs. The problem is that the government interferes with the markets in all different sorts of ways, from control of the money supply to senseless bureaucratic nonsense to giving special rights to certain groups, and plain old special interest corruption. When the government fucks off and stops spending all our money and trying to control everything people will have the opportunity to thrive and prosper.
Alex hogarth wrote:
you think that the amount you pay for insurance covers the medical bill?
I pay for my medical costs upfront cash. I get a mega discount that way too.
Alex hogarth wrote:
I cannot understand how you think goverment run health care cannot be cheaper - the govement is not committed to scimming 15% of the money paid in to a favoured few - private health care is, so if its properly run you have to pay in 15% less for the same service!
If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual. Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism. More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices. You are in utter denial, your NHS system is broken, expensive, and ineffective. It's government.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox
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its a good job you arnt here or you would be sampling said health care personnally - do the world a favour and get professional help you need proper help drugs instead of those contaimated weeds you smoke
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
I'd do the world a favor by throwing your vile sheepish ass into the dumpster.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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You are so funny. You: Effeminate, scrawny, spotty-face mummy's boy who likes playing with himself. Me: 6'2" Ex-army, Rugby playing, stud-muffin. No Contest, I have harder turds than you. Now go back to loserville and deliver those pizzas, you proctological dribble merchant.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
I'm 6 foot, lean, large hands and feet, extremely fast and strong. I could break your nose 5 times before you would even realize I hit you.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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I'd do the world a favor by throwing your vile sheepish ass into the dumpster.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Sheepish, isn't that where you blindly follow the sayings of others. You know, people like Ru Paul or Ron Jeremey or whatever he is called? Have you thought of taking a long holiday from posting here, I think the rest might do you some good.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter. Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The healthcare bill is a bailout to the insurance companies
Funny, looks to me like they're actually LOWERING the profits of insurance companies, not bailing them out.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
a robbery
The only ones losing money are the insurance companies... So are you against them GETTING money, or against them LOSING money? Do you support or oppose them?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and criminally destructive
What's being destroyed? And don't give me that "it's destroying liberty" crap, or more of your metaphysical complaints about things not agreeing with your vision. What tangible things is it destroying?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny, looks to me like they're actually LOWERING the profits of insurance companies, not bailing them out.
Oh I guess you haven't read the bill. Mandatory insurance is not a bailout? It's like how they do with car insurance, you have to buy it if you drive, but with this you have to buy health insurance if you are alive. If you don't then you will have to pay a special tax.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
What's being destroyed?
The economy, economic and personal liberty. The country.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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I'm 6 foot, lean, large hands and feet, extremely fast and strong. I could break your nose 5 times before you would even realize I hit you.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Now that is a grudge match I'd like to see, british squaddie vs deluded megapod.
Dalek Dave: There are many words that some find offensive, Homosexuality, Alcoholism, Religion, Visual Basic, Manchester United, Butter. Pete o'Hanlon: If it wasn't insulting tools, I'd say you were dumber than a bag of spanners.
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Alex hogarth wrote:
you just want the poor to die without healthcare
I want them to pay for themselves. If they can't pay for themselves then they had better make sure that they can or suffer the consequences. That is how life works.
Alex hogarth wrote:
you only want healthcare to be available to the wealthy.
Healthcare is available to those who have jobs. The problem is that the government interferes with the markets in all different sorts of ways, from control of the money supply to senseless bureaucratic nonsense to giving special rights to certain groups, and plain old special interest corruption. When the government fucks off and stops spending all our money and trying to control everything people will have the opportunity to thrive and prosper.
Alex hogarth wrote:
you think that the amount you pay for insurance covers the medical bill?
I pay for my medical costs upfront cash. I get a mega discount that way too.
Alex hogarth wrote:
I cannot understand how you think goverment run health care cannot be cheaper - the govement is not committed to scimming 15% of the money paid in to a favoured few - private health care is, so if its properly run you have to pay in 15% less for the same service!
If medical care is provided by government, this can only be achieved by an authoritarian government unconcerned about the rights of the individual. Economic fallacies accepted for more than 100 years in the United States has deceived policy makers into believing that quality medical care can only be achieved by government force, taxation, regulations, and bowing to a system of special interests that creates a system of corporatism. More dollars into any monopoly run by government never increases quality but it always results in higher costs and prices. You are in utter denial, your NHS system is broken, expensive, and ineffective. It's government.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox
but how much to cover illness? you may be lucky and only have minor aliments but say you (sometime in the future when you grow up) get a car and have a serious no fault accident - do you expect the ambulance to check your pocket for cash before taking you to hospital? - not enough cash and they leave you to die on the road? is this what your wanting? to live in a society that preys on the weak? that allows death and illness to exist despite the opotunity to prevent it? to allow the wealthy to get even richer at the expense on the worker? because this is what happens if you let capitaism run unfettled, try a bit of history and look at the era where this was allowed to happen and see the conditions the workers were reduced to the HNS has problem it is true but yet I have Health insurance TOO so iam covered in all enventualities I will not get turfed out of a hospital bed to die in the street because my insurance has reached a limit, i will not have to plunge my family into decades of dept to cover an illness you wish you live in the bad old days of the industrial revolution
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny, looks to me like they're actually LOWERING the profits of insurance companies, not bailing them out.
Oh I guess you haven't read the bill. Mandatory insurance is not a bailout? It's like how they do with car insurance, you have to buy it if you drive, but with this you have to buy health insurance if you are alive. If you don't then you will have to pay a special tax.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
What's being destroyed?
The economy, economic and personal liberty. The country.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It's like how they do with car insurance, you have to buy it if you drive, but with this you have to buy health insurance if you are alive.
Why are you worried then? By the current medical definition alive = has brain activity. Ergo, you're exempt.
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I'm 6 foot, lean, large hands and feet, extremely fast and strong. I could break your nose 5 times before you would even realize I hit you.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
so a untrained programmer vs a trained killer roll up roll up ladies and gentelmen place your bets
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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so a untrained programmer vs a trained killer roll up roll up ladies and gentelmen place your bets
Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Funny, looks to me like they're actually LOWERING the profits of insurance companies, not bailing them out.
Oh I guess you haven't read the bill. Mandatory insurance is not a bailout? It's like how they do with car insurance, you have to buy it if you drive, but with this you have to buy health insurance if you are alive. If you don't then you will have to pay a special tax.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
What's being destroyed?
The economy, economic and personal liberty. The country.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Oh I guess you haven't read the bill. Mandatory insurance is not a bailout?
Let's see... 85% of the population already has insurance... This will raise that to 95%... So 10% of the population of the US will be forced to buy some kind of medical insurance... Oh, except part of that 10% includes children and young adults (Anyone under age 26) who the insurance companies will be forced to cover under their parents' existing plan. And part of that includes people with pre-existing conditions or who are already sick, that the insurance companies will no longer be able to say "Screw you, you're too expensive" to. These people, for the most part, will COST the insurance companies money, not give them more income. The only ones actually adding to the insurance companies' income are the ones who just plain don't have enough income, in which case they'll be getting tax credits to help them get cheap insurance.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The economy, economic and personal liberty. The country.
Enough with this "liberty" garbage... Anything you don't like, you say it destroys personal liberty. You're a bloody broken record... How exactly is it destroying the economy? This isn't adding to the federal budget, as they're really just moving money from elsewhere in the health care budget. They're cutting things that don't work, and putting the money into things that do. In fact, if the reports I'm reading are anywhere near accurate, it's actually going to REDUCE the deficit over time.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)