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  • I Ian Shlasko

    (Yes, another forum thread on this bloody issue, but this article is quite amusing) http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/opinion/25collins.html?src=me&ref=homepage[^] Note: This is an Op-Ed piece, not a normal article, so expect some heavy bias and hyperbole. Some interesting tidbits...

    "Now, in celebration of the passage of the health care reform bill, the minority party has begun invoking a rule that allows any one senator to block all committee hearings scheduled to run later than 2 p.m."

    That I hadn't heard of... Sounds like the GOP are being sore losers... Then again, if I had an excuse to go home at 2pm every day... Hmm... Actually, no... Then my company would probably find an excuse to fire me a few days later. Actually, my favorite line is:

    "This could go on for some time. Meanwhile, feel free to remind Rush Limbaugh that he promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform gets implemented. Once you’re done, you can go back and remind him that Costa Rica has national health care. "

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    Lost User
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    Yeah, I read that a couple days ago. She's a pretty funny writer. Good stuff.

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      (Yes, another forum thread on this bloody issue, but this article is quite amusing) http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/opinion/25collins.html?src=me&ref=homepage[^] Note: This is an Op-Ed piece, not a normal article, so expect some heavy bias and hyperbole. Some interesting tidbits...

      "Now, in celebration of the passage of the health care reform bill, the minority party has begun invoking a rule that allows any one senator to block all committee hearings scheduled to run later than 2 p.m."

      That I hadn't heard of... Sounds like the GOP are being sore losers... Then again, if I had an excuse to go home at 2pm every day... Hmm... Actually, no... Then my company would probably find an excuse to fire me a few days later. Actually, my favorite line is:

      "This could go on for some time. Meanwhile, feel free to remind Rush Limbaugh that he promised to move to Costa Rica if health care reform gets implemented. Once you’re done, you can go back and remind him that Costa Rica has national health care. "

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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      Garbage!

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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        Garbage!

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Yes, we know, Pillowpants... You're the only one allowed to have an opinion, in your own little world. Get back in your cage.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Yes, we know, Pillowpants... You're the only one allowed to have an opinion, in your own little world. Get back in your cage.

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          That article is written for the most brain dead of morons. This is the type of shit you read, it is no wonder you are fucked up. Barack Obama, who is so much more decisive and take-chargey than the old president, Barack Obama. And, of course, he was helped by the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who is strong and brave and pure of heart. :wtf: :omg: :wtf: WTF :wtf: :omg: :wtf:

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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            That article is written for the most brain dead of morons. This is the type of shit you read, it is no wonder you are fucked up. Barack Obama, who is so much more decisive and take-chargey than the old president, Barack Obama. And, of course, he was helped by the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who is strong and brave and pure of heart. :wtf: :omg: :wtf: WTF :wtf: :omg: :wtf:

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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            Ian Shlasko
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            Way to completely miss the joke. The writer is making the point that everyone was pissed at Obama before the reform bill was signed, and now loves him for the same bill. Same goes for Pelosi. She's pointing out how silly it is that everyone suddenly loves the bill now that it's finished.

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              That article is written for the most brain dead of morons. This is the type of shit you read, it is no wonder you are fucked up. Barack Obama, who is so much more decisive and take-chargey than the old president, Barack Obama. And, of course, he was helped by the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who is strong and brave and pure of heart. :wtf: :omg: :wtf: WTF :wtf: :omg: :wtf:

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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              Well, if you don't like the reforms and despise the government so bad as you have said many many times, why don't you can leave the country?, why live in a socialist country?, but wait, there are only 2 countries in the world now that don't have universal health care, the US (lets see if this reform helps ) and North Korea (communist country)... where are you going to live now???, I know!!!! go to area 51, steal on of the many alien spaceships they hide there and fly to another galaxy, how's that???

              I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                That article is written for the most brain dead of morons. This is the type of shit you read, it is no wonder you are fucked up. Barack Obama, who is so much more decisive and take-chargey than the old president, Barack Obama. And, of course, he was helped by the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who is strong and brave and pure of heart. :wtf: :omg: :wtf: WTF :wtf: :omg: :wtf:

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                That article is written for the most brain dead of morons

                So, right up your alley then.

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                  Well, if you don't like the reforms and despise the government so bad as you have said many many times, why don't you can leave the country?, why live in a socialist country?, but wait, there are only 2 countries in the world now that don't have universal health care, the US (lets see if this reform helps ) and North Korea (communist country)... where are you going to live now???, I know!!!! go to area 51, steal on of the many alien spaceships they hide there and fly to another galaxy, how's that???

                  I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                  wolfbinary
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                  He could just move to Somalia. They have very little government, etc. It's right up his alley.

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    That article is written for the most brain dead of morons. This is the type of shit you read, it is no wonder you are fucked up. Barack Obama, who is so much more decisive and take-chargey than the old president, Barack Obama. And, of course, he was helped by the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who is strong and brave and pure of heart. :wtf: :omg: :wtf: WTF :wtf: :omg: :wtf:

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                    Christian Graus
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                    It's amusing to me that if an article plays to your bias, and is simple minded ( i.e. doesn't use the sort of literary devices being used in the bit you quoted, which obviously left you very confused ), you love it. I understand that people like to have their opinions reinforced, but my point is, you can't even understand the opposing point of view, because the people who present it, are expecting too high a level of literary intelligence for you to get it.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      It's amusing to me that if an article plays to your bias, and is simple minded ( i.e. doesn't use the sort of literary devices being used in the bit you quoted, which obviously left you very confused ), you love it. I understand that people like to have their opinions reinforced, but my point is, you can't even understand the opposing point of view, because the people who present it, are expecting too high a level of literary intelligence for you to get it.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      What motivates you?

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Way to completely miss the joke. The writer is making the point that everyone was pissed at Obama before the reform bill was signed, and now loves him for the same bill. Same goes for Pelosi. She's pointing out how silly it is that everyone suddenly loves the bill now that it's finished.

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                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                        Way to completely miss the joke.

                        Yeah, the article is a complete joke. NYT is a complete joke.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Way to completely miss the joke.

                          Yeah, the article is a complete joke. NYT is a complete joke.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Nice comeback, Pillowpants. </sarcasm> You fail at life.

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            Nice comeback, Pillowpants. </sarcasm> You fail at life.

                            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            Take a look in the mirror. You don't have a car, you live in a compact prison like city, you worship the government, you come "home" to a concrete a glass box where you sit around and make believe.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                              Take a look in the mirror. You don't have a car, you live in a compact prison like city, you worship the government, you come "home" to a concrete a glass box where you sit around and make believe.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                              Ian Shlasko
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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              You don't have a car, you live in a compact prison like city,

                              I choose this lifestyle, because it's more beneficial to me than living out in the middle of nowhere with a shotgun and a pickup truck. Get out of your parents' basement for a little while, and maybe you'd understand.

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                              • I Ian Shlasko

                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                You don't have a car, you live in a compact prison like city,

                                I choose this lifestyle, because it's more beneficial to me than living out in the middle of nowhere with a shotgun and a pickup truck. Get out of your parents' basement for a little while, and maybe you'd understand.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                I used to live in an apartment in a city. Not a city with big sky scrapers and ultra compact city blocks, but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together. I'd rather live with nature with a pickup and a shotgun. Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing, no cars, it really makes a difference. I love to shoot too.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                  I used to live in an apartment in a city. Not a city with big sky scrapers and ultra compact city blocks, but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together. I'd rather live with nature with a pickup and a shotgun. Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing, no cars, it really makes a difference. I love to shoot too.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together

                                  We call that a Town

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  I'd rather live with nature

                                  Ahhh. Sweet.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  with a pickup and a shotgun

                                  Eh? Cf. the first part of your sentence.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing

                                  Ok, fine.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  no cars

                                  Pickups don't count I take it?

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  I love to shoot too

                                  And there go the birdies.

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                                    I used to live in an apartment in a city. Not a city with big sky scrapers and ultra compact city blocks, but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together. I'd rather live with nature with a pickup and a shotgun. Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing, no cars, it really makes a difference. I love to shoot too.

                                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                    Ian Shlasko
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                                    Well I'd rather live in the big city, where 90% of what I need is only a short walk away, so I don't have to depend on a pickup truck and a shotgun to get something to eat. I don't have to pay for gas, because I only use mass transit. I don't have to spend time and money maintaining my house, because I live in an apartment. I'd also like to live near where I work, in an area where I can earn a much larger salary than delivering pizzas. Nature is nice, but right now it's not top priority. Maybe you should get it through your head that there's more than one way to live, and more than one way to think. This whole "Everyone who isn't exactly like me is an evil totalitarian socialist contradiction" is getting really old.

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                                      What motivates you?

                                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      What motivates me to do what ? To keep pointing out the flaws in your worldview ? Boredom mostly. There was a time when I thought I could help you to get professional help, but I now know you'll never allow yourself to be treated. So, instead, this whole forum is a sideshow, a chance to slum it and see how the other half lives and thinks.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together

                                        We call that a Town

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        I'd rather live with nature

                                        Ahhh. Sweet.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        with a pickup and a shotgun

                                        Eh? Cf. the first part of your sentence.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing

                                        Ok, fine.

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        no cars

                                        Pickups don't count I take it?

                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        I love to shoot too

                                        And there go the birdies.

                                        You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        And there go the birdies.

                                        It also isn't very quiet.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together

                                          We call that a Town

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          I'd rather live with nature

                                          Ahhh. Sweet.

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          with a pickup and a shotgun

                                          Eh? Cf. the first part of your sentence.

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          Nice and quiet, natural setting, birds singing

                                          Ok, fine.

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          no cars

                                          Pickups don't count I take it?

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          I love to shoot too

                                          And there go the birdies.

                                          You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy

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                                          RichardM1
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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          but rather a crowded city with small houses cramped together

                                          We call that a Town

                                          So in Wales, you never see more than a few thousand people living near each other? ;P I bet if you go to London, you get all shook up!

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