The teaparty in a teacup
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Does anyone even look at the numbers involved in the teaparty rallies? The news media makes such a big deal of these idiots that you might be led to believe that it had some significance. But consider. Yesterday was supposedly the biggest venue of their cross-country tour to date, supposedly the biggest rally they've planned except the last one in Washington. They have their busses carting their followers around, they have Sarah (Look! I can see Russia from Wasilla!) Palin, they have the news media hyping their story.... and how many people were there? Estimates are ... 5000. All that hype, and they get a total of 5000 on Boston Commons. I hate to break it to their faithful, but I could probably get 5000 on the Commons with a free concert by a no-name bluegrass band. I mean really. 5000 is all they can manage, after all that publicity. I'm kind of looking forward to November, in the hopes that the media may just realize this is a fringe group with no potential for real impact. Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Honestly, I wish they would get in gear and build a little more momentum. I don't agree with most of their positions, but it would be nice to get some more voices in politics besides the DNC and GOP.
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Honestly, I wish they would get in gear and build a little more momentum. I don't agree with most of their positions, but it would be nice to get some more voices in politics besides the DNC and GOP.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Does anyone even look at the numbers involved in the teaparty rallies? The news media makes such a big deal of these idiots that you might be led to believe that it had some significance. But consider. Yesterday was supposedly the biggest venue of their cross-country tour to date, supposedly the biggest rally they've planned except the last one in Washington. They have their busses carting their followers around, they have Sarah (Look! I can see Russia from Wasilla!) Palin, they have the news media hyping their story.... and how many people were there? Estimates are ... 5000. All that hype, and they get a total of 5000 on Boston Commons. I hate to break it to their faithful, but I could probably get 5000 on the Commons with a free concert by a no-name bluegrass band. I mean really. 5000 is all they can manage, after all that publicity. I'm kind of looking forward to November, in the hopes that the media may just realize this is a fringe group with no potential for real impact. Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
With the media we have it is a wonder they get anything right and in proportion. One thing is that not all people supporting the tea party are nuts/extremists. You do get this mentioned occasionally. It is too bad that the US has become so apathetic that it does not put up a fight and clean house (and senate :) ).
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I've been pining for a 3rd party since the days of John Anderson. I think it'd be a good thing. I just don't see this group as having broad enough appeal to have any real impact.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Oh, I don't think they'd make a real dent, but they could get big enough to influence things a bit.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
With the media we have it is a wonder they get anything right and in proportion. One thing is that not all people supporting the tea party are nuts/extremists. You do get this mentioned occasionally. It is too bad that the US has become so apathetic that it does not put up a fight and clean house (and senate :) ).
There's a story in the NY Times today profiling a number of TP'ers and making the point that they're better educated and wealthier than the average Joe. That certainly isn't the impression the press generally gives; I suspect the wandering news crews probably screen potential interviewees in order to find those that come across as radical idiots.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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With the media we have it is a wonder they get anything right and in proportion. One thing is that not all people supporting the tea party are nuts/extremists. You do get this mentioned occasionally. It is too bad that the US has become so apathetic that it does not put up a fight and clean house (and senate :) ).
djj55 wrote:
It is too bad that the US has become so apathetic that it does not put up a fight and clean house (and senate ).
Simple reason for that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurality_voting_system#Tactical_voting[^] Our voting method pretty much guarantees that a third party has zero chance of winning a large-scale election.
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There's a story in the NY Times today profiling a number of TP'ers and making the point that they're better educated and wealthier than the average Joe. That certainly isn't the impression the press generally gives; I suspect the wandering news crews probably screen potential interviewees in order to find those that come across as radical idiots.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Not as much as you may think, well educated and wealthy mean snot when it comes to being coherent about politics. I know, as I've had a few people come charging in on their moral high horse to defend tea baggers, only to watch them steadily make all of the mistakes they claim people just make up. My favorite which is appearing to be a running theme in the type of person who does such things is the belief that personal opinions can be properly presented as fact. Which has explained to me a great deal of the mindset of the typical tea bagger, if not the typical tea party supporter, odds are you can guess where I draw the differences there. But there's two other statistics that I find fairly telling, they're also older and more religious than average. Which means what? They're more conservative than average as well. These people are far from the voice of the average American many of them seem to think they are.
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Does anyone even look at the numbers involved in the teaparty rallies? The news media makes such a big deal of these idiots that you might be led to believe that it had some significance. But consider. Yesterday was supposedly the biggest venue of their cross-country tour to date, supposedly the biggest rally they've planned except the last one in Washington. They have their busses carting their followers around, they have Sarah (Look! I can see Russia from Wasilla!) Palin, they have the news media hyping their story.... and how many people were there? Estimates are ... 5000. All that hype, and they get a total of 5000 on Boston Commons. I hate to break it to their faithful, but I could probably get 5000 on the Commons with a free concert by a no-name bluegrass band. I mean really. 5000 is all they can manage, after all that publicity. I'm kind of looking forward to November, in the hopes that the media may just realize this is a fringe group with no potential for real impact. Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty. Hate it or love it its a very large decentralized group, and palin is not the head of the teaparty, perhaps the Tea Party Express (THE RHINO GOP GROUP), but not the majority of the teaparty. There is nothing you can do to stop them. During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid. They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low, well we know what happened to them.
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There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty. Hate it or love it its a very large decentralized group, and palin is not the head of the teaparty, perhaps the Tea Party Express (THE RHINO GOP GROUP), but not the majority of the teaparty. There is nothing you can do to stop them. During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid. They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low, well we know what happened to them.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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For some reason I don't foresee 'Tea baggers' being adopted as a national nickname in the future.
Ouch
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There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty. Hate it or love it its a very large decentralized group, and palin is not the head of the teaparty, perhaps the Tea Party Express (THE RHINO GOP GROUP), but not the majority of the teaparty. There is nothing you can do to stop them. During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid. They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low, well we know what happened to them.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
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Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
:thumbsup:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty. Hate it or love it its a very large decentralized group, and palin is not the head of the teaparty, perhaps the Tea Party Express (THE RHINO GOP GROUP), but not the majority of the teaparty. There is nothing you can do to stop them. During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid. They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low, well we know what happened to them.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid.
Wrong. The term was in use long before the American War of Independence. Crap at history too.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
gave us
Gave US? These were British colonials revolting against a British government. (Look at the Declaration of Independence - all British names, apart from some cove called Paca.) Since when was Henize a British name? Your paternal forebears were probably descended from the Hessian military fighting against the colonial forces. Or Eurotrash "wretched refuse" immigrants.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
well we know what happened to them.
Yes. They conned about a third of the world into being ruled by an insignificant, under resourced, island off the coast of Europe for 150 or more years.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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For some reason I don't foresee 'Tea baggers' being adopted as a national nickname in the future.
Distind wrote:
For some reason I don't foresee 'Tea baggers' being adopted as a national nickname in the future.
There called 'TeaPartiers'. 'Teabaggers' is a derogatory term given to them by the likes of you.
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Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
hammerstein05 wrote:
Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
The French helped out, they deserve some credit.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid.
Wrong. The term was in use long before the American War of Independence. Crap at history too.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
gave us
Gave US? These were British colonials revolting against a British government. (Look at the Declaration of Independence - all British names, apart from some cove called Paca.) Since when was Henize a British name? Your paternal forebears were probably descended from the Hessian military fighting against the colonial forces. Or Eurotrash "wretched refuse" immigrants.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
well we know what happened to them.
Yes. They conned about a third of the world into being ruled by an insignificant, under resourced, island off the coast of Europe for 150 or more years.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
Since when was Henize a British name? Your paternal forebears were probably descended from the Hessian military fighting against the colonial forces. Or Eurotrash "wretched refuse" immigrants.
My ancestors came here from Germany during the early 1800s.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty. Hate it or love it its a very large decentralized group, and palin is not the head of the teaparty, perhaps the Tea Party Express (THE RHINO GOP GROUP), but not the majority of the teaparty. There is nothing you can do to stop them. During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid. They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low, well we know what happened to them.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty.
Of course there is. If 5k care enough to show up, there's probably 50k or so, counting those who couldn't make it, couldn't be bothered, etc. But, that's still a drop in the bucket. There's plenty of fringe groups with more people than that. There's definitely more gay people in the city than that, so gay rights, as a political issue, is more likely to have an impact than these people are.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
The French helped out, they deserve some credit.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Benjamin Franklin spent years living in France begging for help because otherwise the cause was doomed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid.
Wrong. The term was in use long before the American War of Independence. Crap at history too.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
gave us
Gave US? These were British colonials revolting against a British government. (Look at the Declaration of Independence - all British names, apart from some cove called Paca.) Since when was Henize a British name? Your paternal forebears were probably descended from the Hessian military fighting against the colonial forces. Or Eurotrash "wretched refuse" immigrants.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
well we know what happened to them.
Yes. They conned about a third of the world into being ruled by an insignificant, under resourced, island off the coast of Europe for 150 or more years.
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
Wrong. The term was in use long before the American War of Independence. Crap at history too.
Ding![^] "In 1758 British General James Wolfe made the earliest recorded use of the word Yankee to refer to Americans, referring to the New England soldiers under his command as Yankees" 18 years before the start of the war.
Bob Emmett wrote:
Yes. They conned about a third of the world into being ruled by an insignificant, under resourced, island off the coast of Europe for 150 or more years.
Haha, well said :)
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Benjamin Franklin spent years living in France begging for help because otherwise the cause was doomed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
He was an American, and his actions of influence helped win the war.
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