The teaparty in a teacup
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Awesome! :laugh: I think you'll be impressed. Go for 'The March of Folly' first. It's a kick - it's a study of bad governance through the ages, from the Trojans and the Horse through the US and Vietnam.
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yeah, that one definitely caught my eye, and I think I will read it first.
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Yes, it's true. He begged the French, they came, and they are the reason you won.
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Helped by the French, or a bunch of convicts? Helped by the French, or a bunch of convicts? Well it's not that hard to decide. Convicts. But it's too late to change history and dump the Frogs. Luckily my family came over when we were pulling the Frogs out of the fire. :-\
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Does anyone even look at the numbers involved in the teaparty rallies? The news media makes such a big deal of these idiots that you might be led to believe that it had some significance. But consider. Yesterday was supposedly the biggest venue of their cross-country tour to date, supposedly the biggest rally they've planned except the last one in Washington. They have their busses carting their followers around, they have Sarah (Look! I can see Russia from Wasilla!) Palin, they have the news media hyping their story.... and how many people were there? Estimates are ... 5000. All that hype, and they get a total of 5000 on Boston Commons. I hate to break it to their faithful, but I could probably get 5000 on the Commons with a free concert by a no-name bluegrass band. I mean really. 5000 is all they can manage, after all that publicity. I'm kind of looking forward to November, in the hopes that the media may just realize this is a fringe group with no potential for real impact. Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
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Not as much as you may think, well educated and wealthy mean snot when it comes to being coherent about politics. I know, as I've had a few people come charging in on their moral high horse to defend tea baggers, only to watch them steadily make all of the mistakes they claim people just make up. My favorite which is appearing to be a running theme in the type of person who does such things is the belief that personal opinions can be properly presented as fact. Which has explained to me a great deal of the mindset of the typical tea bagger, if not the typical tea party supporter, odds are you can guess where I draw the differences there. But there's two other statistics that I find fairly telling, they're also older and more religious than average. Which means what? They're more conservative than average as well. These people are far from the voice of the average American many of them seem to think they are.
Distind wrote:
My favorite which is appearing to be a running theme in the type of person who does such things is the belief that personal opinions can be properly presented as fact
And I guess it is your opinion a fact that no one on the left ever did that?
Distind wrote:
Which means what? They're more conservative than average as well. These people are far from the voice of the average American many of them seem to think they are.
You only just figured out that they are more conservative than average? Are you more liberal than average, or are you just an average Joe who knows that the OTHER average Joes are all f'd up? Are you willing to draw the conclusion that anti-tea-partisans like yourself are more atheist than average, and younger than average? Because younger always means smarter, wiser and more intelligent? You know you are making the same mistakes the 'tea baggers' did when they were young hippies? :laugh: :laugh:
Opacity, the new Transparency.
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Does anyone even look at the numbers involved in the teaparty rallies? The news media makes such a big deal of these idiots that you might be led to believe that it had some significance. But consider. Yesterday was supposedly the biggest venue of their cross-country tour to date, supposedly the biggest rally they've planned except the last one in Washington. They have their busses carting their followers around, they have Sarah (Look! I can see Russia from Wasilla!) Palin, they have the news media hyping their story.... and how many people were there? Estimates are ... 5000. All that hype, and they get a total of 5000 on Boston Commons. I hate to break it to their faithful, but I could probably get 5000 on the Commons with a free concert by a no-name bluegrass band. I mean really. 5000 is all they can manage, after all that publicity. I'm kind of looking forward to November, in the hopes that the media may just realize this is a fringe group with no potential for real impact. Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
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LunaticFringe wrote:
Just maybe they will stop treating this 'movement' as if it was something more than a few loony tunes screaming their heads off.
That is all the media treats them as. I'm not sure where you get your intel, but everyone of the media stations except fox makes them out to be raving loonies. Did you complain about the amount of coverage Cindy Sheahan got? Or don't you think she was a raving loon?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty.
Of course there is. If 5k care enough to show up, there's probably 50k or so, counting those who couldn't make it, couldn't be bothered, etc. But, that's still a drop in the bucket. There's plenty of fringe groups with more people than that. There's definitely more gay people in the city than that, so gay rights, as a political issue, is more likely to have an impact than these people are.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
That one is easy - He regards himself as a "Yankee" and he is incredibily stupid therefore by his logic all yankee's are incredibily stupid (applogies to all other Johnathans )
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Distind wrote:
For some reason I don't foresee 'Tea baggers' being adopted as a national nickname in the future.
There called 'TeaPartiers'. 'Teabaggers' is a derogatory term given to them by the likes of you.
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Distind wrote:
For some reason I don't foresee 'Tea baggers' being adopted as a national nickname in the future.
There called 'TeaPartiers'. 'Teabaggers' is a derogatory term given to them by the likes of you.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There called 'TeaPartiers'.
THEY'RE called... If you are going to correct someone on using a term, use the correct English. And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There called 'TeaPartiers'.
THEY'RE called... If you are going to correct someone on using a term, use the correct English. And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There called 'TeaPartiers'.
THEY'RE called... If you are going to correct someone on using a term, use the correct English. And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo.
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You can't give a bunch of older conservative white folk a hard time for not knowing what teabagging is. How were they supposed to know, given who they are?
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RichardM1 wrote:
How were they supposed to know, given who they are?
The internet. Oh wait, that's for porn.
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It's probably one of the most intense attempts at revisionism I've ever seen. That said, I have a good deal of photographic evidence that's painfully funny.
The fact that Fox News was describing them as teabaggers in telecasts until someone explained it to them too was hilarious...
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RichardM1 wrote:
How were they supposed to know, given who they are?
The internet. Oh wait, that's for porn.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
Oh wait, that's for porn.
Which is why "teabagging" is so easy to find... Amusingly, the wikipedia article on it is blocked by my office firewall. Somewhere in our corporate headquarters, some IT guy is looking at the firewall logs, thinking, "Why the hell would he look that up on Wikipedia?"
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As someone who had to explain it to them, no, we didn't give it to them, they came up with it all on their own.
Distind wrote:
As someone who had to explain it to them
An obama supporter explaining why Tea Partyers should be called Teabaggers... :rolleyes:
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There called 'TeaPartiers'.
THEY'RE called... If you are going to correct someone on using a term, use the correct English. And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo
Proof?, who showed them? When did that person show them?
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Distind wrote:
As someone who had to explain it to them
An obama supporter explaining why Tea Partyers should be called Teabaggers... :rolleyes:
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No, I was kind enough to explain to them why I was laughing. They then called me a dirty pervert(among other things) and began to claim they'd never called themselves that. That said, I STILL crack up at the elderly woman holding the 'I'm tea bagging for Jesus' sign. Though I do make a differentiation these days between those I refer to as tea partiers and tea baggers. If someone has sincere convictions on the subject and at least enough of a clue that mindless chanting isn't going to accomplish anything they qualify for the party, otherwise they're just out there teabagging the nation.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
And they had been calling themselves Teabaggers until someone showed them what teabagging meant using Halo
Proof?, who showed them? When did that person show them?
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I could track down a few posts from the old CARM boards of my own trying to enlighten them as to what they were calling themselves through their profanity filters, but they're quite old by now and I don't really think you're worth it. But there were a lot of people like myself who, once they finished laughing, felt compelled to tell someone who was ignorant of what they were referencing so that they realized why we laughed. See, some of us try to help people so that they don't continue to look like idiots, or better yet, get a clue and stop being an idiot entirely.
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No, I was kind enough to explain to them why I was laughing. They then called me a dirty pervert(among other things) and began to claim they'd never called themselves that. That said, I STILL crack up at the elderly woman holding the 'I'm tea bagging for Jesus' sign. Though I do make a differentiation these days between those I refer to as tea partiers and tea baggers. If someone has sincere convictions on the subject and at least enough of a clue that mindless chanting isn't going to accomplish anything they qualify for the party, otherwise they're just out there teabagging the nation.
Distind wrote:
I STILL crack up at the elderly woman holding the 'I'm tea bagging for Jesus' sign.
She was probably an infiltrator, something you would do. It was in the news the other day that groups, including a middleschool teacher, was planning to infiltrate teaparty groups carrying misspelled racist signs calling for violence. That is a typical leftist strategy. Link...[^] Link...[^] Link...[^]
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Distind wrote:
I STILL crack up at the elderly woman holding the 'I'm tea bagging for Jesus' sign.
She was probably an infiltrator, something you would do. It was in the news the other day that groups, including a middleschool teacher, was planning to infiltrate teaparty groups carrying misspelled racist signs calling for violence. That is a typical leftist strategy. Link...[^] Link...[^] Link...[^]
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Distind wrote:
I STILL crack up at the elderly woman holding the 'I'm tea bagging for Jesus' sign.
She was probably an infiltrator, something you would do. It was in the news the other day that groups, including a middleschool teacher, was planning to infiltrate teaparty groups carrying misspelled racist signs calling for violence. That is a typical leftist strategy. Link...[^] Link...[^] Link...[^]
SO this would be black propaganda? Oh wait, you had the perfect example of it and still didn't understand it.