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  • R ragnaroknrol

    nor does pillowpants. :)

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    Ian Shlasko
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    :thumbsup:

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      Yes ;P

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      thrakazog
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      Well so be it then. As Homer would say: "Boy, everyone is stupid except me."

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        Well so be it then. As Homer would say: "Boy, everyone is stupid except me."

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        Ian Shlasko
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        "You think Einstein walked around thinking everybody was a bunch of dumbasses?" -- Rita, in Idiocracy
        Anyway, though... THAT's not hypocritical. It's hypocritical to criticize them for being mindlessly obedient, just because they're obeying someone other than you.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Hypocrisy (n): The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy[^] Example: "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a mindless slave who can't think for themselves!" Now who do we know that says things like this? Just food for thought...

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          Actually, as much as I scorned CSS when he first came into the forum, I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity. He is a lot more coherent since he stoped taking drigs, thats for sure. And, by the way, your example isnt valid. A better examoke is the catholic church.

          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            Actually, as much as I scorned CSS when he first came into the forum, I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity. He is a lot more coherent since he stoped taking drigs, thats for sure. And, by the way, your example isnt valid. A better examoke is the catholic church.

            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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            ragnaroknrol
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            Do we really have to go through all the threads where he has said one thing and 20 posts later is been defending the thing he attacked because he said it differently? He wants a free market but heaven forbid you try to sell people crap AND wants gold to be the standard, which is regulating the currency/market... He wants thinks we should all have arms to defend against tyrrany but if we were invaded would not try to fight back. The only consistent thing about him is his inability to turn the lens inward and see that he is a grade a douchenozzle.

            If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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              Actually, as much as I scorned CSS when he first came into the forum, I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity. He is a lot more coherent since he stoped taking drigs, thats for sure. And, by the way, your example isnt valid. A better examoke is the catholic church.

              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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              James L Thomson
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              I've never understood why people praise consistency. Consistency in the face of evidence is merely stubborn stupidity.

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                Do we really have to go through all the threads where he has said one thing and 20 posts later is been defending the thing he attacked because he said it differently? He wants a free market but heaven forbid you try to sell people crap AND wants gold to be the standard, which is regulating the currency/market... He wants thinks we should all have arms to defend against tyrrany but if we were invaded would not try to fight back. The only consistent thing about him is his inability to turn the lens inward and see that he is a grade a douchenozzle.

                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                Ian Shlasko
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                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                wants gold to be the standard, which is regulating the currency/market...

                I wouldn't call that regulation. That would actually lead to LESS regulation. I think it's the only one of his many ridiculous points that comes close to having merit (Fixed currency does have some advantages - Gold-backed is silly). Rest of your post... 100% :thumbsup:

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                  I've never understood why people praise consistency. Consistency in the face of evidence is merely stubborn stupidity.

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                  Ian Shlasko
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                  Consistency is not holding to your opinions, regardless of outside influence. As you said, that's just being stubborn. Consistency = Making sure your own opinions don't contradict each other. He wants the government not to touch business, but at the same time, he wants the government to ensure everyone plays fair (Prevent fraud)... I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

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                    Actually, as much as I scorned CSS when he first came into the forum, I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity. He is a lot more coherent since he stoped taking drigs, thats for sure. And, by the way, your example isnt valid. A better examoke is the catholic church.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity.

                    Was going to argue this, but rag covered it. And yes, I'll admit that SOMETIMES he does accidentally spout a grain of truth, but the signal-to-noise ratio is as bad as the SETI program.

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                    And, by the way, your example isnt valid

                    It's close enough... It's not solid enough for a legal document, but it gets the point across... He thinks everyone is brainwashed and unable to think for themselves, but meanwhile he's completely brainwashed by Alex Jones and his ilk. See, YOUR opinions, I may not agree with, but you can actually debate and defend. josda, wherever he ran off to, does an excellent job of backing up his viewpoints... CSS can't even make an argument without contradicting himself.

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity.

                      Was going to argue this, but rag covered it. And yes, I'll admit that SOMETIMES he does accidentally spout a grain of truth, but the signal-to-noise ratio is as bad as the SETI program.

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                      And, by the way, your example isnt valid

                      It's close enough... It's not solid enough for a legal document, but it gets the point across... He thinks everyone is brainwashed and unable to think for themselves, but meanwhile he's completely brainwashed by Alex Jones and his ilk. See, YOUR opinions, I may not agree with, but you can actually debate and defend. josda, wherever he ran off to, does an excellent job of backing up his viewpoints... CSS can't even make an argument without contradicting himself.

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                      Ian Shlasko wrote:

                      He thinks everyone is brainwashed and unable to think for themselves, but meanwhile he's completely brainwashed by Alex Jones and his ilk.

                      Which is not an example of hypocrisy. It would be hypocrisy only if he pretended to believe what he posts, but, being brainwashed, he does believe it. He is not intelligent enough to spot the inconsistencies in his posts; when they are pointed out to him, he thrashes around trying to justify them, finally resorting to insult or silence, but still believing that he is somehow right. He will then return to post again all that has been shown to be false. A sure sign of the true believer.

                      Bob Emmett "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

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                        fat_boy wrote:

                        I have to say that his view are consistent and not entirely lacking in veracity.

                        Was going to argue this, but rag covered it. And yes, I'll admit that SOMETIMES he does accidentally spout a grain of truth, but the signal-to-noise ratio is as bad as the SETI program.

                        fat_boy wrote:

                        And, by the way, your example isnt valid

                        It's close enough... It's not solid enough for a legal document, but it gets the point across... He thinks everyone is brainwashed and unable to think for themselves, but meanwhile he's completely brainwashed by Alex Jones and his ilk. See, YOUR opinions, I may not agree with, but you can actually debate and defend. josda, wherever he ran off to, does an excellent job of backing up his viewpoints... CSS can't even make an argument without contradicting himself.

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                        I think he lacks the intelligence to think through his feelings fully and thus come to a position where he can argue his point. (Since as you know most of us funtion off feeling as the prime motivator) He also like to take the verbally strongest stance he can, and uses language as wild as is needed to acchieve that, which often distracts his detractors. Its easier to argue with the language than the message after all.

                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          He thinks everyone is brainwashed and unable to think for themselves, but meanwhile he's completely brainwashed by Alex Jones and his ilk.

                          Which is not an example of hypocrisy. It would be hypocrisy only if he pretended to believe what he posts, but, being brainwashed, he does believe it. He is not intelligent enough to spot the inconsistencies in his posts; when they are pointed out to him, he thrashes around trying to justify them, finally resorting to insult or silence, but still believing that he is somehow right. He will then return to post again all that has been shown to be false. A sure sign of the true believer.

                          Bob Emmett "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

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                          Ian Shlasko
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                          Hmmm, I think you might be right... I was interpreting the definition as not practicing what you preach... But if he's really deluded enough to believe everything he's saying, then there's some other term that applies... Which I can't think of right now.

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                            I think he lacks the intelligence to think through his feelings fully and thus come to a position where he can argue his point. (Since as you know most of us funtion off feeling as the prime motivator) He also like to take the verbally strongest stance he can, and uses language as wild as is needed to acchieve that, which often distracts his detractors. Its easier to argue with the language than the message after all.

                            Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            Ian Shlasko
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                            That, and he just steers the conversation elsewhere if someone disproves him... I've never once seen him admit a mistake, or admit that he's wrong when he's been conclusively proven such.

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                              Hmmm, I think you might be right... I was interpreting the definition as not practicing what you preach... But if he's really deluded enough to believe everything he's saying, then there's some other term that applies... Which I can't think of right now.

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                              Ian, perhaps Henize suffers from "blinkered vision" more than most.

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                                I think he lacks the intelligence to think through his feelings fully and thus come to a position where he can argue his point. (Since as you know most of us funtion off feeling as the prime motivator) He also like to take the verbally strongest stance he can, and uses language as wild as is needed to acchieve that, which often distracts his detractors. Its easier to argue with the language than the message after all.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                ragnaroknrol
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                                when you are arguing against "Arguing with me is like arguing with god." you really can't argue the language and not the message...

                                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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