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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Was he talking about the lamda stuff? If so, he's right. Rookie programmers would have a learning curve to go through. The lamda stuff doesn't give you anything in terms of speed, so it's rather pointless. If it doesn't improve the speed, obfuscated code like that is nothing more than a hindrance. Of course, you'll find others here that disagree with me.

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    I can see your point however I disagree about lambda being a hindrance, the lambda expression in there is not complicated and saves me the hassle of having to make a method just to display the members which may only happen once. Although I can see that if I needed to display the details in other classes it would not be very productive. Thanks for the reply ! ;)

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      Was he talking about the lamda stuff? If so, he's right. Rookie programmers would have a learning curve to go through. The lamda stuff doesn't give you anything in terms of speed, so it's rather pointless. If it doesn't improve the speed, obfuscated code like that is nothing more than a hindrance. Of course, you'll find others here that disagree with me.

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      Lost User
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      It gives you speed when compared to overrides.. a switch is much faster though (and in this case probably also clearer) That doesn't mean I disagree, of course.

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        It gives you speed when compared to overrides.. a switch is much faster though (and in this case probably also clearer) That doesn't mean I disagree, of course.

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        But we're not talking about overrides. We're talking about populating a dictionary from a list...

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        • V venomation

          I used the following code in a programming lesson to help me with a project but the lecturer says it is hard to maintain although I made it like that for better manageability:

              static List \_person = new List();
              static void Main()
              {
                  Dictionary methodList = new Dictionary();
          
                  methodList.Add("1", (() =>
                      \_person.ForEach(s => Console.WriteLine("{0} {1}", s.Name, s.Title))));
          
                  \_person.Add(new Person( "James","Prog" ));
                  \_person.Add(new Person( "Claire","Illu"));
          
                  Console.WriteLine("Press 1 to show all data or 2 to quit");
          
                  string input = Console.ReadLine();
                  if (methodList.ContainsKey(input)) methodList\[input\]();
          
                  Console.Read();
          
              }
          
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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Did your XML generics get swallowed? What exactly is he concerned about?

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          • V venomation

            I can see your point however I disagree about lambda being a hindrance, the lambda expression in there is not complicated and saves me the hassle of having to make a method just to display the members which may only happen once. Although I can see that if I needed to display the details in other classes it would not be very productive. Thanks for the reply ! ;)

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            realJSOP
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            We're talking about maintenance, not productivity. If you want better maintainability, you shouldn't use the lamda. Adding code complexity with no tangible performance gain is bad practice, IMHO.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              But we're not talking about overrides. We're talking about populating a dictionary from a list...

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              I know, but soon the "anti switch" guerrillas will find the thread and suggest "a beautiful OO solution" :)

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                I know, but soon the "anti switch" guerrillas will find the thread and suggest "a beautiful OO solution" :)

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                realJSOP
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                Don't you just hate zealots? :)

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                  Did your XML generics get swallowed? What exactly is he concerned about?

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                  venomation
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                  Thanks for the replies so far! I think my lecturer is assuming that the program that was shown could be "grown" so I did not use switch as I assumed if the system were to grow adding more switch statements would decrease its quality? Is there a better way around this instead of encapsulating the routines into the dictionary?

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                  • V venomation

                    Thanks for the replies so far! I think my lecturer is assuming that the program that was shown could be "grown" so I did not use switch as I assumed if the system were to grow adding more switch statements would decrease its quality? Is there a better way around this instead of encapsulating the routines into the dictionary?

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                    Lost User
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                    More switches? Why not just add more cases to a big switch?

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                      More switches? Why not just add more cases to a big switch?

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                      venomation
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                      That is true I initially used switches but as the project has an "unknown" amount of lookups I thought the latter approach would suit it?

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                        Don't you just hate zealots? :)

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        "I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that!" -- Tom Lehrer

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                        • V venomation

                          That is true I initially used switches but as the project has an "unknown" amount of lookups I thought the latter approach would suit it?

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Perhaps you should have told us what the requirements were. What would he say to a system of plug-ins? :cool:

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                          • V venomation

                            That is true I initially used switches but as the project has an "unknown" amount of lookups I thought the latter approach would suit it?

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                            Where does that "unknown" come from? Unknown at compile time? (that would eliminate switch as option..)

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                              Where does that "unknown" come from? Unknown at compile time? (that would eliminate switch as option..)

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                              venomation
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                              It relates to an "unknown" GUI requirement as we have not been told what options we will provide the user with so options 1 and 2 are there for show.

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                              • V venomation

                                I can see your point however I disagree about lambda being a hindrance, the lambda expression in there is not complicated and saves me the hassle of having to make a method just to display the members which may only happen once. Although I can see that if I needed to display the details in other classes it would not be very productive. Thanks for the reply ! ;)

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                A simpler anonymous method may suffice.

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                                  It relates to an "unknown" GUI requirement as we have not been told what options we will provide the user with so options 1 and 2 are there for show.

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                                  Well if it's just that you could just go back and add some cases.. right?

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                                    Well if it's just that you could just go back and add some cases.. right?

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                                    venomation
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                                    Ok thanks for all the comments, it appears that a switch is all that is needed :-D

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                                    • V venomation

                                      I used the following code in a programming lesson to help me with a project but the lecturer says it is hard to maintain although I made it like that for better manageability:

                                          static List \_person = new List();
                                          static void Main()
                                          {
                                              Dictionary methodList = new Dictionary();
                                      
                                              methodList.Add("1", (() =>
                                                  \_person.ForEach(s => Console.WriteLine("{0} {1}", s.Name, s.Title))));
                                      
                                              \_person.Add(new Person( "James","Prog" ));
                                              \_person.Add(new Person( "Claire","Illu"));
                                      
                                              Console.WriteLine("Press 1 to show all data or 2 to quit");
                                      
                                              string input = Console.ReadLine();
                                              if (methodList.ContainsKey(input)) methodList\[input\]();
                                      
                                              Console.Read();
                                      
                                          }
                                      
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                                      If you need that logic in multiple places, there might be some value in putting it in a dictionary structure (e.g., if you need a combination of the values and the logic for selecting which keys depends on where the dictionary is used). That way, you can pass the dictionary around. Then again, you could just wrap a switch statement in a delegate and pass that around (may not work well if there is custom logic to access several keys). In this specific case, I see no reason a switch statement should not be used. It is certainly simpler and I recommend choosing the simpler approach unless there is a real chance you will need the more complex approach later.

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                                      • V venomation

                                        I used the following code in a programming lesson to help me with a project but the lecturer says it is hard to maintain although I made it like that for better manageability:

                                            static List \_person = new List();
                                            static void Main()
                                            {
                                                Dictionary methodList = new Dictionary();
                                        
                                                methodList.Add("1", (() =>
                                                    \_person.ForEach(s => Console.WriteLine("{0} {1}", s.Name, s.Title))));
                                        
                                                \_person.Add(new Person( "James","Prog" ));
                                                \_person.Add(new Person( "Claire","Illu"));
                                        
                                                Console.WriteLine("Press 1 to show all data or 2 to quit");
                                        
                                                string input = Console.ReadLine();
                                                if (methodList.ContainsKey(input)) methodList\[input\]();
                                        
                                                Console.Read();
                                        
                                            }
                                        
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                                        Abhinav S
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                                        You might want to move some of this code out of your main method and into other methods. For e.g.

                                        thebuzzwright wrote:

                                        methodList.Add("1", (() => _person.ForEach(s => Console.WriteLine("{0} {1}", s.Name, s.Title))));

                                        might go into a readInput() method.

                                        thebuzzwright wrote:

                                        person.Add(new Person( "James","Prog" )); _person.Add(new Person( "Claire","Illu"));

                                        could go into loadData() or something like that.

                                        thebuzzwright wrote:

                                        string input = Console.ReadLine(); if (methodList.ContainsKey(input)) methodList[input]();

                                        could go into a method called userResponse(). If any of these methods are modified later, these logical groups might make it easier for others to understand what is done where in the program.

                                        modified on Saturday, May 1, 2010 12:39 AM

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                                          "I know that there are people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that!" -- Tom Lehrer

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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          Tom Lehrer

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