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  • L Luc Pattyn

    you're welcome. Now go install .NET 4.0 and write that article! :)

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    Lost User
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    I'm not sure.. that's actually quite advanced.. and I'm still only halfway understanding linear time suffix array construction (bit slow I know..)

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      I'm not sure.. that's actually quite advanced.. and I'm still only halfway understanding linear time suffix array construction (bit slow I know..)

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      Luc Pattyn
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      If things are getting slow, you should start doing some of them in parallel... :)

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      • L Luc Pattyn

        If things are getting slow, you should start doing some of them in parallel... :)

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        :laugh: Win :) Anyway, how's your prime number thing going?

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        • K karayel_kara

          it is floyd marshall algorithm but it is run slowly how can i increase speed? i have quad pc and it use %25 cpu but i wait so much . for (int k = 0; k < 2000; k++) for (int i = 0; i < 2000; i++) for (int j = 0; j < 2000; j++) G[i, j] = Math.Min(G[i, j], G[i, k] + G[k, j]);

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          I've just knocked up a blog post[^] to show how this code could be accomplished using .NET 4. Here's the same code rewritten to use the Task Parallel Library.

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          • L Lost User

            :laugh: Win :) Anyway, how's your prime number thing going?

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            Luc Pattyn
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            very good, thanks, it currently uses 1.1 threads. There isn't enough work to keep a dual-core busy :laugh: :laugh: I'll publish it later this year.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              I've just knocked up a blog post[^] to show how this code could be accomplished using .NET 4. Here's the same code rewritten to use the Task Parallel Library.

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              Luc Pattyn
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              Hi Pete, I'm afraid I disagree with your parallel sample in this particular case; it seems to violate the Floyd-Warshall_algorithm[^], which theoretically uses a three-dimensional array, but then maps the k-iterations (the outer loop) onto a single two-dimensional array, provided it gets executed in the correct sequence. In another part of this thread I have shown Harold how parts of the calculation could be executed in parallel, but your and my approach are quite different. FWIW: I have no clue what the speed up would be for say a 2000 node graph and a 4-way core; I'm not overly optimistic as there is a lot of data involved, so using multiple cores is likely to seriously reduce cache efficiency. :)

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                Hi Pete, I'm afraid I disagree with your parallel sample in this particular case; it seems to violate the Floyd-Warshall_algorithm[^], which theoretically uses a three-dimensional array, but then maps the k-iterations (the outer loop) onto a single two-dimensional array, provided it gets executed in the correct sequence. In another part of this thread I have shown Harold how parts of the calculation could be executed in parallel, but your and my approach are quite different. FWIW: I have no clue what the speed up would be for say a 2000 node graph and a 4-way core; I'm not overly optimistic as there is a lot of data involved, so using multiple cores is likely to seriously reduce cache efficiency. :)

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                Luc - I wasn't trying to demonstrate the algorithm. I was demonstrating purely and simply how to convert his code into a Parallel.For.

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  Hi Pete, I'm afraid I disagree with your parallel sample in this particular case; it seems to violate the Floyd-Warshall_algorithm[^], which theoretically uses a three-dimensional array, but then maps the k-iterations (the outer loop) onto a single two-dimensional array, provided it gets executed in the correct sequence. In another part of this thread I have shown Harold how parts of the calculation could be executed in parallel, but your and my approach are quite different. FWIW: I have no clue what the speed up would be for say a 2000 node graph and a 4-way core; I'm not overly optimistic as there is a lot of data involved, so using multiple cores is likely to seriously reduce cache efficiency. :)

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                  BTW - your code sample won't compile. The following line is the problem because of an uninitialized variable:

                  G[i, j] = Math.Min(G[i, j], G[i, j] + G[j, j]); // special case k==j

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Luc - I wasn't trying to demonstrate the algorithm. I was demonstrating purely and simply how to convert his code into a Parallel.For.

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                    I appreciate that, Pete. However I'm afraid you wrecked the algorithm, which isn't a very nice thing to do. When the results aren't the same, there isn't much point in measuring the speed difference, is there? :)

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      BTW - your code sample won't compile. The following line is the problem because of an uninitialized variable:

                      G[i, j] = Math.Min(G[i, j], G[i, j] + G[j, j]); // special case k==j

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                      Luc Pattyn
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                      you're right, I replaced k's by j's, it should have been the other way around. Sorry for that. :)

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        you're right, I replaced k's by j's, it should have been the other way around. Sorry for that. :)

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                        hi ,i modified my code folowing that, but i get some error folowing code running ! double[,] a, b, c; a = new double[2000, 2000]; b=new double[2000,2000]; c=new double[2000,2000]; int s = 2000; Parallel.For(0, s, delegate(int i) { for (int j = 0; j < s; j++) { double v = 0; for (int k = 0; k < s; k++) { v += a[i, k] * b[k, j]; } c[i, j] = v; } }); bu my code isn't run :( Parallel.For(0, nrons, delegate(int k) { for (i = 0; i < nrons; i++) for (j = 0; j < nrons; j++) //G[i, j] = Math.Min(G[i, j], G[i, k] + G[k, j]); if (G[i, j]> (G[i, k] + G[k, j]) ) G[i, j] =(G[i, k] + G[k, j]) ; } ); why did i get error ?

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                          hi ,i modified my code folowing that, but i get some error folowing code running ! double[,] a, b, c; a = new double[2000, 2000]; b=new double[2000,2000]; c=new double[2000,2000]; int s = 2000; Parallel.For(0, s, delegate(int i) { for (int j = 0; j < s; j++) { double v = 0; for (int k = 0; k < s; k++) { v += a[i, k] * b[k, j]; } c[i, j] = v; } }); bu my code isn't run :( Parallel.For(0, nrons, delegate(int k) { for (i = 0; i < nrons; i++) for (j = 0; j < nrons; j++) //G[i, j] = Math.Min(G[i, j], G[i, k] + G[k, j]); if (G[i, j]> (G[i, k] + G[k, j]) ) G[i, j] =(G[i, k] + G[k, j]) ; } ); why did i get error ?

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          karayel_kara wrote:

                          my code isn't run

                          is not informative. does it compile? if not, what is the first error? does it run? if not, what is the first exception, with all the details? and at what line is it pointing? anyway, your code looks all wrong. You now have three arrays. Why? You don't initialize the arrays. I see six for loops, you only need three. And the way I understand the algorithm you can not possibly run the outer loop in parallel (that was the essence of my comment to Pete too). And please, please, please, please, please, please, show code in PRE tags, not in CODE tags. Final remark: when all you do to the algorithm is run it in parallel, the best you can hope for is to get it N times faster, with N the number of cores, say 4. That is something, but not much. And there are no guarantees. My first experiment did run 5 times slower, because it trashed the caches all the time! (and I'm afraid that will be true for your app too). :)

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