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fat_boy wrote:
yet another bloody cold winter and summer with record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales
I dont believe New South Wales had a cold summer at all. Where did you get that information from?
extraordinary snow flurries in its southeastern alpine region, where some towns have recorded their first-ever summer snowfalls.[^] I believe the term "first ever summer snow" will suffice to answer your question.
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Yeah, that was news to me, too.
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extraordinary snow flurries in its southeastern alpine region, where some towns have recorded their first-ever summer snowfalls.[^] I believe the term "first ever summer snow" will suffice to answer your question.
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fat_boy wrote:
I believe the term "first ever summer snow" will suffice to answer your question.
Well actually no. Two towns had freak summer snow falls. What does this tell us about the existence of climate change? Fuck all. If I came to you and said town XXX had a reallly hot day in the winter would that be proof of climate change? You really are the second biggest dick head here.
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Yeah, that was news to me, too.
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Well look below. I guess you missed it.
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No, I just expected it to be something like this. You'd (correctly) make fun of people who say that a hot day proves global warming, but you'd point to a single freak snow storm in an out of the way place as proof that it is false. This is called hypocrisy. It's my core complaint with all of your AGW ranting.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yeah, that was news to me, too.
It's funny how a dick head with a chip on his shoulder can tell me what the weather was like in my own home over the last six months.
The Hobart summer was unusually wet and warm. In fact, we had amazing growing conditions this summer, some of our best crops ever. But certainly nothing to disprove AGW ( as if any single weather event, or even a single season, could prove or disprove it ).
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No, I just expected it to be something like this. You'd (correctly) make fun of people who say that a hot day proves global warming, but you'd point to a single freak snow storm in an out of the way place as proof that it is false. This is called hypocrisy. It's my core complaint with all of your AGW ranting.
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Christian Graus wrote:
you'd point to a single freak snow storm in an out of the way place as proof that it is false
So I guess you missed the last three years winter news for the northern hemisphere then? You know, where Gatwick aurport ran out of deicer? Where the English channel froze? Where London had the first snow in October in 70 years? Where the temperature in Scotland was colder then the Antartic? Where the entire UK was blanketed by snow? And thats just the UK.
Christian Graus wrote:
This is called hypocrisy
And you are either stupid or blind or dishonest. Mind you, you must be not to have noticed summer snow in your own damned country.
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fat_boy wrote:
I believe the term "first ever summer snow" will suffice to answer your question.
Well actually no. Two towns had freak summer snow falls. What does this tell us about the existence of climate change? Fuck all. If I came to you and said town XXX had a reallly hot day in the winter would that be proof of climate change? You really are the second biggest dick head here.
Josh Gray wrote:
Well actually no.
Hang on, you asked where I got the news from that there had been record snow in australia, I sent you a link stating "first ever summer snow" in Australia, and you say that it DOESNT answer your question? What are you, some kind of fucking idiot?
Josh Gray wrote:
What does this tell us about the existence of climate change? f*** all.
Ah, so NOW you question is "what does that tell us ablut climate change"? So you change your question eh? Think thats honest of you?
Josh Gray wrote:
Two towns had freak summer snow falls
SO GO BACK AND READ THE REST OF MY FUCKING POST WHERE I STATE THAT THERE WAS RECORD SNOW AND COLD GLOBALLY FOR THE LAST THREE YESRS! What does THAT tell you about climate change you moronic fucking prick.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
It's, uh, all in Fahrenheit, which is a stupid unit of measurement just like all of the Imperial units.
Why? If you understand what they mean they are as useful as any other measurement system. I'm surprised at you saying such a silly thing: most unlike you.
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1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet = 63360 inches. 1 gallon = 231 cubic inches = 0.1337 cubic feet. 1 pound = 16 ounces It mocks itself.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yeah, that was news to me, too.
It's funny how a dick head with a chip on his shoulder can tell me what the weather was like in my own home over the last six months.
Josh Gray wrote:
It's funny how a dick head with a chip on his shoulder can tell me what the weather was like in my own home over the last six months.
Oh really? So you actually live in thoise vilages where they had summer snow do you? Ah, I guess not., Thats why you were completely ignorant of the fact untill I pointed it out to you. Yes, it is funny how even a dick with splinters can tell YOU more about the weather in YOUR country. Kind of makes you pretty stupid then doesnt it. At least more stupid than a dick with motes on it any way.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Well actually no.
Hang on, you asked where I got the news from that there had been record snow in australia, I sent you a link stating "first ever summer snow" in Australia, and you say that it DOESNT answer your question? What are you, some kind of fucking idiot?
Josh Gray wrote:
What does this tell us about the existence of climate change? f*** all.
Ah, so NOW you question is "what does that tell us ablut climate change"? So you change your question eh? Think thats honest of you?
Josh Gray wrote:
Two towns had freak summer snow falls
SO GO BACK AND READ THE REST OF MY FUCKING POST WHERE I STATE THAT THERE WAS RECORD SNOW AND COLD GLOBALLY FOR THE LAST THREE YESRS! What does THAT tell you about climate change you moronic fucking prick.
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fat_boy wrote:
Hang on, you asked where I got the news from that there had been record snow in australia, I sent you a link stating "first ever summer snow" in Australia, and you say that it DOESNT answer your question? What are you, some kind of f***ing idiot?
You said NSW had a cold summer, I dont believe a report of snow in two towns in ...wait for it... the Snowy Mountains... is proof that we had a cold summer. I was there, you were not I suspect. You are wrong and I am right.
fat_boy wrote:
Ah, so NOW you question is "what does that tell us ablut climate change"? So you change your question eh? Think thats honest of you?
No, you're right, I am being completely dishonest because...actually why would I do that? perhaps I am part of the global socialist AGW conspiracy.
fat_boy wrote:
What does THAT tell you about climate change you moronic f***ing prick.
It tells what something we already knew, you are an ignorant fool incapable of reasonable discussion.
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Josh Gray wrote:
It's funny how a dick head with a chip on his shoulder can tell me what the weather was like in my own home over the last six months.
Oh really? So you actually live in thoise vilages where they had summer snow do you? Ah, I guess not., Thats why you were completely ignorant of the fact untill I pointed it out to you. Yes, it is funny how even a dick with splinters can tell YOU more about the weather in YOUR country. Kind of makes you pretty stupid then doesnt it. At least more stupid than a dick with motes on it any way.
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fat_boy wrote:
Oh really? So you actually live in thoise vilages where they had summer snow do you? Ah, I guess not., Thats why you were completely ignorant of the fact untill I pointed it out to you.
Possibly, or perhaps it didn't make news here because its not all that uncommon. But then I live in NSW what would I know.
fat_boy wrote:
Yes, it is funny how even a dick with splinters can tell YOU more about the weather in YOUR country
I tell you something about my country pip squeak, its bigger than yours! not the only thing I suspect!
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fat_boy wrote:
Oh really? So you actually live in thoise vilages where they had summer snow do you? Ah, I guess not., Thats why you were completely ignorant of the fact untill I pointed it out to you.
Possibly, or perhaps it didn't make news here because its not all that uncommon. But then I live in NSW what would I know.
fat_boy wrote:
Yes, it is funny how even a dick with splinters can tell YOU more about the weather in YOUR country
I tell you something about my country pip squeak, its bigger than yours! not the only thing I suspect!
Josh Gray wrote:
I tell you something about my country pip squeak, its bigger than yours! not the only thing I suspect!
Ah, so when his stupidity is pointed out he retorts with a penis size quip in the thought that having a bigger dick makes him some how more right. That, really IS, pathetic.
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The researchers calculated that humans and most mammals, which have internal body temperatures near 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, will experience a potentially lethal level of heat stress at wet-bulb temperature above 95 degrees sustained for six hours or more, said Matthew Huber, the Purdue professor of earth and atmospheric sciences [^] Wel, after yet another bloody cold winter and summer with record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales where the producers of this report are based) the politically motivated socialist activists that go by the name of scientists/ebvironmentalists cant help trying to scare us that little bit more. Mind you, its incredible that anyone would print such a scientifically lame piece as this. Yeah, at 100 `C its going to be pretty untenable, but I am pretty sure we all know that anyway, so just what IS this article saying thats newsworthy? Well, lets look at the supposed science that might have been carried out given the above snippet: So thay have taken animals, including humans, and exposed them to 100% humidity at temperatures of 95.000001 `C and after 6.00001 hours whereupon they all 'potentially' died? Oh, hang on, did I miss the word 'calculate'. Perhaps they took a load of people and sat them arouhd at 47.500000005`C and said "how do you feel". "pretty fucked" was the answer. So they put "pretty fucked" into their 'calculators' and doubled it, and the result was "potentially lethal". And all this biological research was carried out by the 'professor of earth and atmospheric sciences'! I wonder if there were ANY biologists in the research team? So basically yet another example of a climatologist making suppositions and guesses in a field he is unqualified to do so in. The extraordinary thing is that this kind of pure bunkum gets published. Its really extraordinary how badly 'science' is performing these days.
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Josh Gray wrote:
I tell you something about my country pip squeak, its bigger than yours! not the only thing I suspect!
Ah, so when his stupidity is pointed out he retorts with a penis size quip in the thought that having a bigger dick makes him some how more right. That, really IS, pathetic.
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fat_boy wrote:
Ah, so when his stupidity is pointed out he retorts with a penis size quip in the thought that having a bigger dick makes him some how more right.
Again you attack me and not the point I made. I threw that in as an attempt to lighten the mood after you called me a moronic fucking prick Would you like to tell me again how one article about freak snow fall in two small towns in the mountains entitles you to tell me that the previous summer in my home was cool and how that could in anyway be relevant to your original point was appears to be that ??? some scientist 'making suppositions and guesses in a field he is unqualified to do so in'. He's in good company eh?
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fat_boy wrote:
Hang on, you asked where I got the news from that there had been record snow in australia, I sent you a link stating "first ever summer snow" in Australia, and you say that it DOESNT answer your question? What are you, some kind of f***ing idiot?
You said NSW had a cold summer, I dont believe a report of snow in two towns in ...wait for it... the Snowy Mountains... is proof that we had a cold summer. I was there, you were not I suspect. You are wrong and I am right.
fat_boy wrote:
Ah, so NOW you question is "what does that tell us ablut climate change"? So you change your question eh? Think thats honest of you?
No, you're right, I am being completely dishonest because...actually why would I do that? perhaps I am part of the global socialist AGW conspiracy.
fat_boy wrote:
What does THAT tell you about climate change you moronic f***ing prick.
It tells what something we already knew, you are an ignorant fool incapable of reasonable discussion.
Josh Gray wrote:
You said NSW had a cold summer
No, I worte this: "record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales "
Josh Gray wrote:
It tells what something we already knew, you are an ignorant fool incapable of reasonable discussion.
Ha, what a wimp! You stated it pal, calling me a prick, and now you cant even stand and fight! SO, a gutless chicken as well as a fool, and incapable of maintainig a consistent argument.
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The researchers calculated that humans and most mammals, which have internal body temperatures near 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, will experience a potentially lethal level of heat stress at wet-bulb temperature above 95 degrees sustained for six hours or more, said Matthew Huber, the Purdue professor of earth and atmospheric sciences [^] Wel, after yet another bloody cold winter and summer with record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales where the producers of this report are based) the politically motivated socialist activists that go by the name of scientists/ebvironmentalists cant help trying to scare us that little bit more. Mind you, its incredible that anyone would print such a scientifically lame piece as this. Yeah, at 100 `C its going to be pretty untenable, but I am pretty sure we all know that anyway, so just what IS this article saying thats newsworthy? Well, lets look at the supposed science that might have been carried out given the above snippet: So thay have taken animals, including humans, and exposed them to 100% humidity at temperatures of 95.000001 `C and after 6.00001 hours whereupon they all 'potentially' died? Oh, hang on, did I miss the word 'calculate'. Perhaps they took a load of people and sat them arouhd at 47.500000005`C and said "how do you feel". "pretty fucked" was the answer. So they put "pretty fucked" into their 'calculators' and doubled it, and the result was "potentially lethal". And all this biological research was carried out by the 'professor of earth and atmospheric sciences'! I wonder if there were ANY biologists in the research team? So basically yet another example of a climatologist making suppositions and guesses in a field he is unqualified to do so in. The extraordinary thing is that this kind of pure bunkum gets published. Its really extraordinary how badly 'science' is performing these days.
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- 95 degrees Fahrenheit, not Celsius. Nowhere in the article is the Celsius scale used. 2) It's the "wet bulb" temperature, which is described as basically skin temperature while sweating (Remember, we sweat to cool ourselves down). It's somewhat lower than air temperature, and relates to humidity too. If it's humid out, we can dissipate less heat via sweat, so we can't keep our body temperature regulated as easily. 3) It says that about a 12-degree temperature increase would bring some humid areas above that 95-degree wet bulb limit. This isn't a "We're all gonna die" story, though I'm sure there's a bit of bias in that direction (Don't have much time right now, so not reading in detail)... It's basically saying, "Ok, if global warming is real, this is how much it'll take before people start dropping dead." If anything, I think it downplays global warming, since if I remember right, the predictions are for a temperature rise of maybe a few degrees in the next century, right? This study basically implies that at that rate, it would take several centuries before it becomes unsuitable for humans. Of course, it says nothing about farming, livestock, plant life, sea levels, etc... That's out of the scope of the article. EDIT: You should actually read articles and understand them before you start using them as examples of bad science or bad journalism... You don't want to start sounding like Pillowpants.
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Imperial is good for estimation, metric for calculation. After all, a couple of feet one can imagine more easialy than 63 centimeters. (And no, I am not saying that 63 centimeters is EXACTLY two feet for all you pedants)
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It's easy to estimate in metric if you exercise your metric muscles. ;P
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Josh Gray wrote:
You said NSW had a cold summer
No, I worte this: "record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales "
Josh Gray wrote:
It tells what something we already knew, you are an ignorant fool incapable of reasonable discussion.
Ha, what a wimp! You stated it pal, calling me a prick, and now you cant even stand and fight! SO, a gutless chicken as well as a fool, and incapable of maintainig a consistent argument.
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fat_boy wrote:
No, I worte this: "record snow in most parts of the world (yes, even in New South Wales "
No you wrote "after yet another bloody cold winter and summer with record snow in most parts of the world" Nice selective self quoting!
fat_boy wrote:
Ha, what a wimp! You stated it pal, calling me a prick, and now you cant even stand and fight!
But you are a prick, that much is obvious.
fat_boy wrote:
SO, a gutless chicken as well as a fool, and incapable of maintainig a consistent argument.
My argument is very simple and consistent. Summer in NSW Australia 09/ 10 was not unusually cold and a touch of snow as described in the article you linked to is not significant or meaningful.
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1 mile = 1760 yards = 5280 feet = 63360 inches. 1 gallon = 231 cubic inches = 0.1337 cubic feet. 1 pound = 16 ounces It mocks itself.
No. A mile is 8 furlongs. A furlong is the lenght an ox can plough before needing a rest. (forrow long). An inch is a thumb, a foot a foot, a yard a stride (no, not underwear), a chain rod and so on the obvious. A pint is a perfect container for beer, none other will do.
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