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    Kevin Marois
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    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

    Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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      http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

      Everything makes sense in someone's mind

      modified on Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:18 PM

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      Chris Maunder
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      Soapbox material

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        http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

        Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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        Why is it that everytime I see the phrase "Mexican-American" I think of Cheech and Chong[^]?

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          http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

          Everything makes sense in someone's mind

          modified on Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:18 PM

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          William Winner
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          Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Just insane. I was curious if the school flew the US flag that day. If they did, how would a student wearing a flag on their shirt be more inflammatory than flying a US flag? And I must have missed that school board meeting where they voted to secede from the US and join with Mexico instead. Sure, if the shirts were causing tensions because of a flag, then anyone wearing any flag should be told to remove them as well. Does that mean no more US flags on St. Pats Day, or no one wearing crosses on Yom Kippur or how about someone wearing a yarmulke or a symbol of ancient Rome on Good Friday? The school district has it right...they have posted on their page: "The Morgan Hill Unified School District does not prohibit nor do we discourage wearing patriotic clothing. The incident on May 5 at Live Oak High School is extremely unfortunate. While campus safety is our primary concern and administrators made decisions yesterday in an attempt to ensure campus safety, students should not, and will not, be disciplined for wearing patriotic clothing. This matter is under investigation and appropriate action will be taken."

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            Kevin Marois
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            Not for me. Every read-blooded American should be thouroghly Pi$$ed off. What's next? We stop speaking English in the US because the (illegal) mexicans want to show pride in a country they don't want to live in?

            Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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              Not for me. Every read-blooded American should be thouroghly Pi$$ed off. What's next? We stop speaking English in the US because the (illegal) mexicans want to show pride in a country they don't want to live in?

              Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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              Christian Graus
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              Chris meant anything political belongs in a forum other than the lounge. So, I moved it.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Chris meant anything political belongs in a forum other than the lounge. So, I moved it.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Kevin Marois
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                Oh, ok

                Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                  Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Just insane. I was curious if the school flew the US flag that day. If they did, how would a student wearing a flag on their shirt be more inflammatory than flying a US flag? And I must have missed that school board meeting where they voted to secede from the US and join with Mexico instead. Sure, if the shirts were causing tensions because of a flag, then anyone wearing any flag should be told to remove them as well. Does that mean no more US flags on St. Pats Day, or no one wearing crosses on Yom Kippur or how about someone wearing a yarmulke or a symbol of ancient Rome on Good Friday? The school district has it right...they have posted on their page: "The Morgan Hill Unified School District does not prohibit nor do we discourage wearing patriotic clothing. The incident on May 5 at Live Oak High School is extremely unfortunate. While campus safety is our primary concern and administrators made decisions yesterday in an attempt to ensure campus safety, students should not, and will not, be disciplined for wearing patriotic clothing. This matter is under investigation and appropriate action will be taken."

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                  Kevin Marois
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                  "...and appropriate action will be taken. The kids should be stood up in front of the entire school assembly and awared for standing up in the face of the rampant degradation of the US and it's liberties.

                  Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                    "...and appropriate action will be taken. The kids should be stood up in front of the entire school assembly and awared for standing up in the face of the rampant degradation of the US and it's liberties.

                    Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                    Christian Graus
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                    One has to wonder how wearing the flag, makes Americans more free. I agree that he should not be stopped from doing it, but that he did it is hardly a heroic act.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Oh, ok

                      Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                      Christian Graus
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                      It's not a big deal, it's not immediately obvious, that's why people like me exist to move posts and explain why we did it. Anything political is more than welcome here, or in one of our other soapbox type forums ( several exist for complex historical reasons, but none is more apt than another, so long as anything that people might get hot under the collar about, does not appear in the lounge ).

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        It's not a big deal, it's not immediately obvious, that's why people like me exist to move posts and explain why we did it. Anything political is more than welcome here, or in one of our other soapbox type forums ( several exist for complex historical reasons, but none is more apt than another, so long as anything that people might get hot under the collar about, does not appear in the lounge ).

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Kevin Marois
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                        I didn't even realize there was a 'back room' formum until now.

                        Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                          Chris meant anything political belongs in a forum other than the lounge. So, I moved it.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          martin_hughes
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                          Could've moved it to SB 2.0... My God, Graus, have you gone power mad!??!??! :)

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                            http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

                            Everything makes sense in someone's mind

                            modified on Thursday, May 6, 2010 5:18 PM

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                            thrakazog
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                            I love this part: They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday Let's just take a quick look at what country this happened in... Yeah it checks out, wasn't Mexico.

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                              One has to wonder how wearing the flag, makes Americans more free. I agree that he should not be stopped from doing it, but that he did it is hardly a heroic act.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              One has to wonder how wearing the flag, makes Americans more free.

                              Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American. :rolleyes: He said they stood up for their freedoms by not taking them off, not by wearing them to begin with.

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                              hardly a heroic act.

                              He was heroic for standing up to PC oppression. Of course, a lot of the people who support this kid were probably on the bandwagon for the law that kept people from wearing clothes that represented the flag. :-O

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                One has to wonder how wearing the flag, makes Americans more free.

                                Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American. :rolleyes: He said they stood up for their freedoms by not taking them off, not by wearing them to begin with.

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                hardly a heroic act.

                                He was heroic for standing up to PC oppression. Of course, a lot of the people who support this kid were probably on the bandwagon for the law that kept people from wearing clothes that represented the flag. :-O

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                                RichardM1 wrote:

                                Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American

                                No, the reason for that is that my parents decided to come here instead. Purely accident, given that they were immigrating from Europe in the 50s.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  One has to wonder how wearing the flag, makes Americans more free.

                                  Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American. :rolleyes: He said they stood up for their freedoms by not taking them off, not by wearing them to begin with.

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  hardly a heroic act.

                                  He was heroic for standing up to PC oppression. Of course, a lot of the people who support this kid were probably on the bandwagon for the law that kept people from wearing clothes that represented the flag. :-O

                                  Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                                  RichardM1 wrote:

                                  Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American.

                                  I don't get it myself. I'm american, if I was for some reason to wear an american flag and be told something like this I would be more than happy to inform them exactly where they could stuff their offended sense of apparent nationalism as they have no right not to be offended by my simple presence. If they were acting like the kinds of idiots I've seen, or wearing them deliberately to provoke a response like this I could see taking action against them. But if it wasn't organized(or at least they can't prove it) and they were just going about their day, I fail to see the issue. This isn't PC, it's just plain stupid. But you know why they do it? Because of the flag waving idiots who go out of their way to cause conflicts over such things. It's a war of stupid vs stupid and the only people who win are the ones who point and laugh. So far I'm well ahead of things there.

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                                    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html[^] This is just screaming lawsuit.

                                    Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                                    ragnaroknrol
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                                    You know, I woulda been mad at them wearing the flag because, They aren't supposed to![^] Somebody is cheapening our flag to make a buck. Selling one of those shirts would be a misdemeanor in DC...

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                                      "...and appropriate action will be taken. The kids should be stood up in front of the entire school assembly and awared for standing up in the face of the rampant degradation of the US and it's liberties.

                                      Everything makes sense in someone's mind

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                                      ragnaroknrol
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                                      Or had the flag code read to him. Especially the part where they consider that desecrating the flag and then the part about how to dispose of it (preferred method is burned)

                                      If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                        You know, I woulda been mad at them wearing the flag because, They aren't supposed to![^] Somebody is cheapening our flag to make a buck. Selling one of those shirts would be a misdemeanor in DC...

                                        If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Wow... What a pitiful set of rules.

                                        "You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free" -- The American President (1995 film)[^]

                                        Love that speech... I know it's a chick flick, but it's still good. Rules like in that link are fine for government and military ceremonies, but I don't think forced patriotism really embodies the spirit of this country. Freedom of expression should apply to the symbols of the country just as it does to everything else. I'd like to see a bunch of T-shirts made with the flag printed on them upside-down, on fire, and covered with graffiti. Why? Not in any sort of protest... Just to show that it can be done. To stretch the limits of the first amendment and show that no matter how insulting the statement, it's still protected by the Bill of Rights. THAT would be something worthy of national pride.

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                                          RichardM1 wrote:

                                          Well, I guess that is one of the reasons you are not American.

                                          I don't get it myself. I'm american, if I was for some reason to wear an american flag and be told something like this I would be more than happy to inform them exactly where they could stuff their offended sense of apparent nationalism as they have no right not to be offended by my simple presence. If they were acting like the kinds of idiots I've seen, or wearing them deliberately to provoke a response like this I could see taking action against them. But if it wasn't organized(or at least they can't prove it) and they were just going about their day, I fail to see the issue. This isn't PC, it's just plain stupid. But you know why they do it? Because of the flag waving idiots who go out of their way to cause conflicts over such things. It's a war of stupid vs stupid and the only people who win are the ones who point and laugh. So far I'm well ahead of things there.

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                                          Distind wrote:

                                          This isn't PC, it's just plain stupid.

                                          PC is just plain stupid. PC stands for Politically Correct

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