Since I am more than suprised to see that CSS hasn't posted it yet...
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Do you even read your own posts? Here, I'll even give you the ACTUAL passage being referenced, from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series: http://www.terindell.com/asylum/docs/asylum.html[^] Of course you won't read it, because it's not on YouTube.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
except they are engineering the system so that they control it as their own prison planet. They want it as their production facility.
Here's a question for those who are not truly stupid to ponder. If the whole planet is made up of slaves, for a production facility, who are they producing stuff for, and where's the benefit in producing tons of anything, when there's no-one to sell it to ?
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It's called communism. The people in control of such a system have everything, while the rest have almost nothing.
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He's afraid of you. He thinks you're going to suck him into the Australian underworld, in that vast nothingness below the equator. A heathen land, where no one worships the mighty Alex Jones, and everyone lives as slaves to their evil government overlords. Kidding aside, one of these days I gotta visit down there... Always wanted to see Australia and NZ... Such a long bloody flight, though.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)It sure is, 15 hours to get home. I am flying home next Mon, back again 10 days later. I am so sick of flying.
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Wow, it's been a while since I read that. I forgot the guy called himself "Wonko the Sane." :laugh:
Gotta love Douglas Adams... Bloody genius... I wish I could write half as well as him.
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It's called communism. The people in control of such a system have everything, while the rest have almost nothing.
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It's ignorant idiocy. If the whole world is slaves, how can the overlords possibly use all that they make for them ? And, that system you describe is not communism at all, you are just ignorant.
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You people MUST have heard about Rand Paul's win in Kentucky. He won the Republican Primary for the Senate seat opening up by Jim Bunning. Do you hear our voices now, or do you just write it off as a bunch of looney tea partiers? All this is about fiscal responsibility and reigning in the government. We call this a Randslide. http://dailypaul.com/node/135089[^]
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It's ignorant idiocy. If the whole world is slaves, how can the overlords possibly use all that they make for them ? And, that system you describe is not communism at all, you are just ignorant.
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Christian Graus wrote:
how can the overlords possibly use all that they make for them
Around fifty percent of all production goes to government, and many countries owe more than 100% of their GDP. What are they using it for now? A trillion here, a trillion there. It is for control. They don't spend all that money on fancy cars and houses, they use it against us to keep us under their boot and to restructure society as they see fit. They already have all of the money in the world through the central banks, they want control. It's good to be King you know.
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Damnit, Josh... You summoned the creepy little imp out of his cave ;P
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Basically I just came out of my cave myself. Was locked away doing work in a secure room for a few months. But really, all of this really does mean something, and I think it's hilarious to see all of the posts above. People are STILL making fun of CSS while mainstream thinking in American politics is shifting back to the virtues of liberty. I mean I like to pull a joke on him too once in a while, however, I think people really should start seeing the essence of limited government come to the forefront for the next few years.
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Christian Graus wrote:
how can the overlords possibly use all that they make for them
Around fifty percent of all production goes to government, and many countries owe more than 100% of their GDP. What are they using it for now? A trillion here, a trillion there. It is for control. They don't spend all that money on fancy cars and houses, they use it against us to keep us under their boot and to restructure society as they see fit. They already have all of the money in the world through the central banks, they want control. It's good to be King you know.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Around fifty percent of all production goes to government,
Yes, but that's because government is a ton of people with jobs. If you enslave them all, that goes away.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What are they using it for now? A trillion here, a trillion there. It is for control.
Rubbish. It's mostly used to try to cushion the populace from the effects of things like the GFC. It's used to win votes.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They don't spend all that money on fancy cars and houses, they use it against us to keep us under their boot and to restructure society as they see fit.
I can see how your life would make you feel like you are under the boot. I don't feel remotely like that, I feel free, in control, and able to choose my own destiny. Perhaps if you made better choices, you'd not be such a failure that you'd take solace in beliefs like this.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It's good to be King you know.
Well, it's good to be master of your destiny, I can tell you that. You should try it sometime.
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Basically I just came out of my cave myself. Was locked away doing work in a secure room for a few months. But really, all of this really does mean something, and I think it's hilarious to see all of the posts above. People are STILL making fun of CSS while mainstream thinking in American politics is shifting back to the virtues of liberty. I mean I like to pull a joke on him too once in a while, however, I think people really should start seeing the essence of limited government come to the forefront for the next few years.
josda1000 wrote:
People are STILL making fun of CSS while mainstream thinking in American politics is shifting back to the virtues of liberty.
CSS is an idiot. What he has to say is all about paranoia, not liberty. I have all the liberty I can handle, there's no issue there as far as I can see.
josda1000 wrote:
however, I think people really should start seeing the essence of limited government come to the forefront for the next few years.
Well, that sort of thing is cyclical, but it's never as bad as CSS claims, and all the 'they want to enslave us' talk really just hurts any movement that wants to limit government. He makes you all look as stupid as he is.
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It sure is, 15 hours to get home. I am flying home next Mon, back again 10 days later. I am so sick of flying.
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15 hours from where? I'm in New York City... From here, it's gotta be at least 20.
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Basically I just came out of my cave myself. Was locked away doing work in a secure room for a few months. But really, all of this really does mean something, and I think it's hilarious to see all of the posts above. People are STILL making fun of CSS while mainstream thinking in American politics is shifting back to the virtues of liberty. I mean I like to pull a joke on him too once in a while, however, I think people really should start seeing the essence of limited government come to the forefront for the next few years.
I don't make fun of CSS because he's a Lib. I make fun of him because he's an idiot, because he believes every single conspiracy that Alex Jones utters (He's even a bloody BIRTHER!), because he twists every statement (No matter how completely unrelated) into "The government is trying to enslave us!", and because he doesn't even understand his own arguments. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Mini-Ron wins... I'd be a little more supportive if this wasn't another Dubya-style case of "Daddy's gonna make me a Senator, just like him!" You just know he's using all of his dad's connections to get the nomination. I'd respect him more if he had to really work for it on his own. Seriously though, I think a couple more Libs in Congress would be a good thing. I don't agree with the viewpoints, so wouldn't support them getting much in the way of voting power, but just them being there will keep the cookie-cutter DNC and GOP on their toes. All that said, though, CSS is still a complete idiot.
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You people MUST have heard about Rand Paul's win in Kentucky. He won the Republican Primary for the Senate seat opening up by Jim Bunning. Do you hear our voices now, or do you just write it off as a bunch of looney tea partiers? All this is about fiscal responsibility and reigning in the government. We call this a Randslide. http://dailypaul.com/node/135089[^]
You do know that in Ohio Seth Morgan and Sandra O’Brien lost. They were supposed to be tea party candidates too. So does "our" voice apply to that too? Seth Morgan[^] Sandra O’Brien[^] Don't make a mountain out of an ant hill. Like usual politics, it won't last.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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15 hours from where? I'm in New York City... From here, it's gotta be at least 20.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)LAX to Sydney is 15 hours. My total flight time will be more like 24 hours. I just meant, that's the single longest leg of any commercial flight in the world.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Around fifty percent of all production goes to government,
Yes, but that's because government is a ton of people with jobs. If you enslave them all, that goes away.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
What are they using it for now? A trillion here, a trillion there. It is for control.
Rubbish. It's mostly used to try to cushion the populace from the effects of things like the GFC. It's used to win votes.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They don't spend all that money on fancy cars and houses, they use it against us to keep us under their boot and to restructure society as they see fit.
I can see how your life would make you feel like you are under the boot. I don't feel remotely like that, I feel free, in control, and able to choose my own destiny. Perhaps if you made better choices, you'd not be such a failure that you'd take solace in beliefs like this.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It's good to be King you know.
Well, it's good to be master of your destiny, I can tell you that. You should try it sometime.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Well, it's good to be master of your destiny, I can tell you that. You should try it sometime.
What do you think people should be doing to further their development careers? What are you doing? How do you approach this?
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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LAX to Sydney is 15 hours. My total flight time will be more like 24 hours. I just meant, that's the single longest leg of any commercial flight in the world.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Ouch... Major ouch... Yeah, I don't want to spend 15 hours straight on a plane. I managed something like 8 hours to London, and that was bad enough.
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Ouch... Major ouch... Yeah, I don't want to spend 15 hours straight on a plane. I managed something like 8 hours to London, and that was bad enough.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I can get 4-5 hours sleep, nowadays, but it's still not pleasant.
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I don't make fun of CSS because he's a Lib. I make fun of him because he's an idiot, because he believes every single conspiracy that Alex Jones utters (He's even a bloody BIRTHER!), because he twists every statement (No matter how completely unrelated) into "The government is trying to enslave us!", and because he doesn't even understand his own arguments. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Mini-Ron wins... I'd be a little more supportive if this wasn't another Dubya-style case of "Daddy's gonna make me a Senator, just like him!" You just know he's using all of his dad's connections to get the nomination. I'd respect him more if he had to really work for it on his own. Seriously though, I think a couple more Libs in Congress would be a good thing. I don't agree with the viewpoints, so wouldn't support them getting much in the way of voting power, but just them being there will keep the cookie-cutter DNC and GOP on their toes. All that said, though, CSS is still a complete idiot.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Mini-Ron wins... I'd be a little more supportive if this wasn't another Dubya-style case of "Daddy's gonna make me a Senator, just like him!" You just know he's using all of his dad's connections to get the nomination.
I don't know, you could say the same for Hilary Clinton as well, now being secretary of state... But I do agree with you on the point. I am afraid that we are becoming totally oligarchical, where politicians only come out of certain families and not just from the people, the grassroots if you will. Countering our own opinion, however, is the idea that this really was a total grassroots movement in the first place. Ron Paul got recognition when he started his own presidential campaign under the republican banner, and then was thrown out of the race by his own party during the primaries. People stuck with him, however, and got a major following. Now it's the same thing with Rand... he just stuck with the race and won, with the large crowd of tea party / conservative / libertarian, and yes LIBERAL types. So about this one minor issue, it doesn't matter what you or I think, it's more about the content of his character, and what he intends to do in the Senate.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Seriously though, I think a couple more Libs in Congress would be a good thing. I don't agree with the viewpoints, so wouldn't support them getting much in the way of voting power, but just them being there will keep the cookie-cutter DNC and GOP on their toes.
Actually, I think you do agree with much of what we have to say. You're for "civil liberties". The right to speak freely, the right to gather and assemble, the right to a fair trial, the right to freely travel, and others. You're also anti-war, anti-enslavement, and are not for racism, sexism, and other things of this nature. I think you and I agree on a lot of things like this, you're just not for "economic liberties", which is what I would also be for. But you are also for a police/surveillance state, which is really fuckin scary to me. As to the original part of your post, yes, CSS can be a little over the top, even for me. But honestly I know his mind is on the right track.
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You do know that in Ohio Seth Morgan and Sandra O’Brien lost. They were supposed to be tea party candidates too. So does "our" voice apply to that too? Seth Morgan[^] Sandra O’Brien[^] Don't make a mountain out of an ant hill. Like usual politics, it won't last.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Never heard of them. Probably because they're in Ohio. And one was for auditor, one for secretary of state. Have you heard of BJ Lawson? Peter Schiff? RJ Harris? Adam Kokesh? Neverminding these people, have you heard that NJ, MA and VA just elected people that are Republicans, and they are Democratic leaning states? Firstly, I'm talking about Federal politics, while you're talking about politics within a Democratic leaning state, FOR that state. Secondly, I don't think you've done your homework to really talk about Federal politics if you're talking about only Ohio. You're right. It's not right to count my chickens yet. However, there's every reason to be hopeful. Like I've said, "Men are currently willing to accept a government that they know is corrupt." I stole that line from a Deep Space Nine episode, but it's extremely apropos.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Honestly, I wouldn't mind if Mini-Ron wins... I'd be a little more supportive if this wasn't another Dubya-style case of "Daddy's gonna make me a Senator, just like him!" You just know he's using all of his dad's connections to get the nomination.
I don't know, you could say the same for Hilary Clinton as well, now being secretary of state... But I do agree with you on the point. I am afraid that we are becoming totally oligarchical, where politicians only come out of certain families and not just from the people, the grassroots if you will. Countering our own opinion, however, is the idea that this really was a total grassroots movement in the first place. Ron Paul got recognition when he started his own presidential campaign under the republican banner, and then was thrown out of the race by his own party during the primaries. People stuck with him, however, and got a major following. Now it's the same thing with Rand... he just stuck with the race and won, with the large crowd of tea party / conservative / libertarian, and yes LIBERAL types. So about this one minor issue, it doesn't matter what you or I think, it's more about the content of his character, and what he intends to do in the Senate.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Seriously though, I think a couple more Libs in Congress would be a good thing. I don't agree with the viewpoints, so wouldn't support them getting much in the way of voting power, but just them being there will keep the cookie-cutter DNC and GOP on their toes.
Actually, I think you do agree with much of what we have to say. You're for "civil liberties". The right to speak freely, the right to gather and assemble, the right to a fair trial, the right to freely travel, and others. You're also anti-war, anti-enslavement, and are not for racism, sexism, and other things of this nature. I think you and I agree on a lot of things like this, you're just not for "economic liberties", which is what I would also be for. But you are also for a police/surveillance state, which is really fuckin scary to me. As to the original part of your post, yes, CSS can be a little over the top, even for me. But honestly I know his mind is on the right track.
josda1000 wrote:
I think you and I agree on a lot of things like this, you're just not for "economic liberties", which is what I would also be for.
True, for the most part... I don't think the libertarian view of the economy is realistic, particularly in regards to currency... But we've been through that :)
josda1000 wrote:
But you are also for a police/surveillance state, which is really fuckin scary to me
I am? Hope I haven't given that impression. I view it as a gray area, actually. An Orwellian-style "Big Brother" regime is on one end, and complete anarchy and lack of authority is on the other. I would probably tolerate a little more police surveillance than you would, but I have my limits, just like most others. At some point, excess surveillance begins to interfere with personal freedoms, I'll agree. I just think that point is a little higher than you do. Granted, there are parts of this country that are getting a little silly... I'm seeing news articles all the time about police and politicians abusing power... The trouble is that everywhere else I've read about, it's the same or worse. I don't think a radical shift is the way to fix things, but a push in the right direction could help.
josda1000 wrote:
As to the original part of your post, yes, CSS can be a little over the top, even for me. But honestly I know his mind is on the right track.
You're giving him too much credit. If Alex Jones was suddenly brainwashed by Scientologists and started posting article after article on Infowars about how we're all infested with the corrupted souls of little green men, CSS would be on this forum regurgitating that crap just as fervently as he spits out the conspiracy crap. You preach (portions of) the Libertarian/Constitutionalist agenda because you believe it (Not saying that's a bad thing). He preaches it because he's been brainwashed.
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