Everest reduced to 'dangerous rubble' makijng it dangerous to climb
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Everest is becoming increasingly dangerous to climb because global warming is melting glacier ice along its slopes, Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/EVEREST+REDUCED+RUBBLE/3069370/story.html#ixzz0p1llp83O [^] Sorry, when was Everest ever safe to climb?
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Everest is becoming increasingly dangerous to climb because global warming is melting glacier ice along its slopes, Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/EVEREST+REDUCED+RUBBLE/3069370/story.html#ixzz0p1llp83O [^] Sorry, when was Everest ever safe to climb?
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fat_boy wrote:
Sorry, when was Everest ever safe to climb?
Saying something is 'increasingly dangerous' doesn't imply that it was previously safe.
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Everest is becoming increasingly dangerous to climb because global warming is melting glacier ice along its slopes, Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/EVEREST+REDUCED+RUBBLE/3069370/story.html#ixzz0p1llp83O [^] Sorry, when was Everest ever safe to climb?
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It's not impossible...
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It's not impossible...
No, its not impossible. Its just the utter attention grabbing stupidity of this story. Climbers have always climbed on icy rock. So having less of a covering of show/ice isnt going to scare climbers any. Snowy rock is not that dangerous, its just annoying because your crampons skid around a bit, but they still grip OK. By comparison lots of show is bloddy awfull. Avalanches, falling through cretes. Loosing your way. Falling through new ice bridges over crevases. In terms of mountaineering, when its -30`C, any increase in temperature is welcome!
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Despite the fact its just been climbed by a 13 year old. Yeah, sure, its really dangerous now. After all in the good old days people could just stroll up it!
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fat_boy wrote:
After all in the good old days people could just stroll up it!
Actually you are technically correct, the Himalayan orogeny is ongoing, but only started about 10,000,000 years ago. Relatively new mountains, and has one of the highest uplift rates of about a centimeter a year.
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No, its not impossible. Its just the utter attention grabbing stupidity of this story. Climbers have always climbed on icy rock. So having less of a covering of show/ice isnt going to scare climbers any. Snowy rock is not that dangerous, its just annoying because your crampons skid around a bit, but they still grip OK. By comparison lots of show is bloddy awfull. Avalanches, falling through cretes. Loosing your way. Falling through new ice bridges over crevases. In terms of mountaineering, when its -30`C, any increase in temperature is welcome!
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fat_boy wrote:
In terms of mountaineering, when its -30`C, any increase in temperature is welcome!
What about an increase by the temperature of the surface of the sun?
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fat_boy wrote:
In terms of mountaineering, when its -30`C, any increase in temperature is welcome!
What about an increase by the temperature of the surface of the sun?
That would have very little effect, it would still be very cold on the top of a mountain.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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That would have very little effect, it would still be very cold on the top of a mountain.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Not 'of' the temperature of the surface, but 'by' the temperature. As in, the temperature at the mountaintops increases by ~4000K...
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Not 'of' the temperature of the surface, but 'by' the temperature. As in, the temperature at the mountaintops increases by ~4000K...
'Of Visiting Tourists' Actually I knew exactly what you meant. I was being facetious, just for the hell of it.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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'Of Visiting Tourists' Actually I knew exactly what you meant. I was being facetious, just for the hell of it.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Stop mocking my inability to communicate effectively! ;P
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fat_boy wrote:
In terms of mountaineering, when its -30`C, any increase in temperature is welcome!
What about an increase by the temperature of the surface of the sun?
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'Of Visiting Tourists' Actually I knew exactly what you meant. I was being facetious, just for the hell of it.
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Silly? No, I was genuinely curious as to whether any temperature increase would be welcome.
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Silly? No, I was genuinely curious as to whether any temperature increase would be welcome.
I think you could answer your own curiosity on that one. I cant comment on Everest, I have only climbed to 18000 ft, but thats bad enough, and cold enough. Really really, cold. If GW had happened and it was even 4 or 5 degrees warmer it would only be safer, not more dangerous.
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I think you could answer your own curiosity on that one. I cant comment on Everest, I have only climbed to 18000 ft, but thats bad enough, and cold enough. Really really, cold. If GW had happened and it was even 4 or 5 degrees warmer it would only be safer, not more dangerous.
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fat_boy wrote:
I think you could answer your own curiosity on that one.
:-D :badger:
fat_boy wrote:
I cant comment on Everest, I have only climbed to 18000 ft
18000 feet is still pretty good - let's face it, climbing Mount Everest is just showing off.
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'Of Visiting Tourists' Actually I knew exactly what you meant. I was being facetious, just for the hell of it.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
'Of Visiting Tourists'
Heh... Again, DD, with the subtle H2G2 references :) *ties a towel around his head, just to be safe*
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fat_boy wrote:
I think you could answer your own curiosity on that one.
:-D :badger:
fat_boy wrote:
I cant comment on Everest, I have only climbed to 18000 ft
18000 feet is still pretty good - let's face it, climbing Mount Everest is just showing off.
My mate I went with climbed up to 24,000 in Peru. Aconguaga. Its the highest outside the Himalayas. Its not technical, just high. A slog. But the he IS mad. And he only has one arm! We did Mt Blanc and Popocatepetal together. Mt Blancs the best, more technical although lower. Mind you you get a great view of lake Texacoco from Popacatepetal as the sun comes up. Awesome. Mind you smoking joints on Mt Blanc in the sunset was pretty cool too. We were above the clouds looking at the sun sinking between some moutain peaks also poking through the clouds many miles away.
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My mate I went with climbed up to 24,000 in Peru. Aconguaga. Its the highest outside the Himalayas. Its not technical, just high. A slog. But the he IS mad. And he only has one arm! We did Mt Blanc and Popocatepetal together. Mt Blancs the best, more technical although lower. Mind you you get a great view of lake Texacoco from Popacatepetal as the sun comes up. Awesome. Mind you smoking joints on Mt Blanc in the sunset was pretty cool too. We were above the clouds looking at the sun sinking between some moutain peaks also poking through the clouds many miles away.
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