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  • W wolfbinary

    clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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    Well, think about it this way... If it gets much more ridiculous, they'll have a nice little uprising... Maybe a more liberal regime will result from it, and MAYBE even decide that "separation of church and state" is a good thing. As I see religion... You can believe whatever you want, as long as you accept that the person next to you can believe whatever he/she wants. You don't have to like it, but you have to accept it.

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      clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      And these people were the ones begging the west for help when they were all but wiped out by an Act of God. Maybe they should ask themselves why 'God' did that to these intolerant, mediaeval minded, puritanical, extremist idiots.

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        wolfbinary wrote:

        Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far.

        Hence why the country is still, essentially, a third-world shithole. With that kind of thinking that's all they'll ever be: the trouble is that mode of thinking is being exported at a rather alarming pace and no one in the west appears brave enough to stop it.

        me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven nils illegitimus carborundum

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          clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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          wolfbinary wrote:

          The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them.

          How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

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            wolfbinary wrote:

            The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them.

            How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

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            Josh Gray wrote:

            How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

            Well they're not very filling or nutricious Josh.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              Josh Gray wrote:

              How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

              Well they're not very filling or nutricious Josh.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              Medical aid and family planning that the right wanted to mean "abstinence only" GW was more than willing to make sure it happened. It wasn't about nutrition it was about health care. Want to combat AIDS? "Don't have sex" isn't the best way, because people do it anyway.

              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                Medical aid and family planning that the right wanted to mean "abstinence only" GW was more than willing to make sure it happened. It wasn't about nutrition it was about health care. Want to combat AIDS? "Don't have sex" isn't the best way, because people do it anyway.

                If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                ragnaroknrol wrote:

                It wasn't about nutrition it was about health care. Want to combat AIDS? "Don't have sex" isn't the best way, because people do it anyway.

                I know that, I was just being a facetious Aussie prick with Josh the toffee-nosed, won't come out to the Western Suburbs for a beer with Mick, facetious prick. But seriously, I don't think the average condom has much sustenance so wouldn't provide much energy for the average starving African.

                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  And these people were the ones begging the west for help when they were all but wiped out by an Act of God. Maybe they should ask themselves why 'God' did that to these intolerant, mediaeval minded, puritanical, extremist idiots.

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                  because they were not being as intolerant, mediaeval* minded, puritanical, extremist idiots as they could be! *Media evil is the correct spelling.

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                    ragnaroknrol wrote:

                    It wasn't about nutrition it was about health care. Want to combat AIDS? "Don't have sex" isn't the best way, because people do it anyway.

                    I know that, I was just being a facetious Aussie prick with Josh the toffee-nosed, won't come out to the Western Suburbs for a beer with Mick, facetious prick. But seriously, I don't think the average condom has much sustenance so wouldn't provide much energy for the average starving African.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    heh

                    Michael Martin wrote:

                    But seriously, I don't think the average condom has much sustenance so wouldn't provide much energy for the average starving African.

                    No it won't, but it will stop them getting AIDS and maybe having as many babies. ;P

                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                    • W wolfbinary

                      clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                      Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete. Religion is a vital core component of the human species. In order for society to develop, maintain and build integrity, and for humans to develop emotionally and technologically we must have spirituality. However, those hellbent on domination and control will exploit religion to where we will be forced into bondage and arrested development. Those who wish to destroy religion want the same thing, arrested development and bondage. The only development we will get without religion is the development of new technologies to entrap us into iron grip bondage. You can go on and on about pedophiles and stonings, but that is not spirituality, that is donation by corrupt individuals in positions of power. Religion is being attacked by the globalists, especially Christianity. In a world without religion the state is god, and evil cults thrive.

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                        wolfbinary wrote:

                        The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them.

                        How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

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                        They aren't going to fucking use condoms. Use your brain for a minute.

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                          Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete. Religion is a vital core component of the human species. In order for society to develop, maintain and build integrity, and for humans to develop emotionally and technologically we must have spirituality. However, those hellbent on domination and control will exploit religion to where we will be forced into bondage and arrested development. Those who wish to destroy religion want the same thing, arrested development and bondage. The only development we will get without religion is the development of new technologies to entrap us into iron grip bondage. You can go on and on about pedophiles and stonings, but that is not spirituality, that is donation by corrupt individuals in positions of power. Religion is being attacked by the globalists, especially Christianity. In a world without religion the state is god, and evil cults thrive.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete.

                          As someone who's never paid attention to much of anything for much more than a month(with two exceptions) I have to say you're full of it. I'll admit, at one point I thought I might be missing out on something, so I looked into the lot of those religions people follow, and some no one does anymore, all I found were a bunch of hokey old myths and the odd decent idea I hadn't bothered to consider. Nothing worth worshiping by any means. Since reaching that I've actually been quite content, far more than when I was mewling along with something I didn't believe just to belong. I have to say, I think humanity may be out growing religion. At this point we've defeated most of the obstacle which religion was useful in causing us to avoid, and now it's simply holding us back with the weight of tradition and familiarity. I've found common decency to be far more effective than spirituality.

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                            wolfbinary wrote:

                            The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them.

                            How about Australia and the US not allowing the money we give to Africa as aid to be spent on condoms?

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                            The short answer is I would say it should be for mostly condoms and birth control that isn't abstinence only. Abstinence only programs are very very arrogant and contrary to reality and problem solving. Taking control of your sexuality and reproductive options is up to each person who can reproduce. Not doing so is abdicating your responsibilities.

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete.

                              As someone who's never paid attention to much of anything for much more than a month(with two exceptions) I have to say you're full of it. I'll admit, at one point I thought I might be missing out on something, so I looked into the lot of those religions people follow, and some no one does anymore, all I found were a bunch of hokey old myths and the odd decent idea I hadn't bothered to consider. Nothing worth worshiping by any means. Since reaching that I've actually been quite content, far more than when I was mewling along with something I didn't believe just to belong. I have to say, I think humanity may be out growing religion. At this point we've defeated most of the obstacle which religion was useful in causing us to avoid, and now it's simply holding us back with the weight of tradition and familiarity. I've found common decency to be far more effective than spirituality.

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                              One can be religious without any influence from others or religious texts. Words cannot explain what its like, it is a channel of consciousness that is required if you ever want to be fulfilled. Money, material wealth, power, sex, drugs, and all that will never fulfill you. The only thing religions are holding us back from is total hell on earth. I think one day religion is adequately snuffed, we will live in a bondage not yet ever experienced or dreamed of. High tech scientific bondage where humans are mere resources to be exploited, manipulated, bred, and disposed of by ruthless contolfreaks. You see they have a strong belief in Darwinism. They see themselves as the smartest and strongest, and if they can get something out of somebody in any way, regardless if it hurts that person or other people, then so be it. They feel it's the way it is, and that they are beyond good and evil.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete.

                                As someone who's never paid attention to much of anything for much more than a month(with two exceptions) I have to say you're full of it. I'll admit, at one point I thought I might be missing out on something, so I looked into the lot of those religions people follow, and some no one does anymore, all I found were a bunch of hokey old myths and the odd decent idea I hadn't bothered to consider. Nothing worth worshiping by any means. Since reaching that I've actually been quite content, far more than when I was mewling along with something I didn't believe just to belong. I have to say, I think humanity may be out growing religion. At this point we've defeated most of the obstacle which religion was useful in causing us to avoid, and now it's simply holding us back with the weight of tradition and familiarity. I've found common decency to be far more effective than spirituality.

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                                I've found better morality in atheists than the spiritual.

                                Distind wrote:

                                I have to say, I think humanity may be out growing religion. At this point we've defeated most of the obstacle which religion was useful in causing us to avoid, and now it's simply holding us back with the weight of tradition and familiarity. I've found common decency to be far more effective than spirituality.

                                I hope so, because I'm getting tired of the stupid and faith based decisions being made on my behalf. I've been to several churches of varying types of Christianity and I have to say they were all there to sell guilt except for the last one I went to. They sold comedy otherwise known as holly rollers, speaking in tongues, faith healers, and snake handlers. To this day I still haven't laughed harder than watching those fools. I wasn't the only one laughing. A friend of mine who went with me to our mutual friends church went too.

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                                  clickety[^] As a planet we really have a long way to go. I can't imagine any sufficiently advanced race from another planet would be religious. Stupid stuff like this would get in the way of getting here. Any society that spends this much time worrying about things this vapid don't generally go far. This isn't the first article, but come on. I'm not picking on Islam either. The Catholic church needs to get with it too, especially with crap like the pedophile priests, and excommunicating people who disagree with them. end rant

                                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                  It's all about power, anything else is an excuse. :suss:

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                                    One can be religious without any influence from others or religious texts. Words cannot explain what its like, it is a channel of consciousness that is required if you ever want to be fulfilled. Money, material wealth, power, sex, drugs, and all that will never fulfill you. The only thing religions are holding us back from is total hell on earth. I think one day religion is adequately snuffed, we will live in a bondage not yet ever experienced or dreamed of. High tech scientific bondage where humans are mere resources to be exploited, manipulated, bred, and disposed of by ruthless contolfreaks. You see they have a strong belief in Darwinism. They see themselves as the smartest and strongest, and if they can get something out of somebody in any way, regardless if it hurts that person or other people, then so be it. They feel it's the way it is, and that they are beyond good and evil.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    Money, material wealth, power, sex, drugs, and all that will never fulfill you.

                                    And if that's all you find in life without religion then there's an obvious reason you feel the need for it. I find creation and improvement of the software I work on to be quite fulfilling, if it was only about the money I'd have left ages ago. That'd be one of the exceptions in what has held my attention, to be able to take an idea, just about any idea, and be able to model it, run it through it's paces, and refine your model. That's quite a bit of interesting material, everything you can think of. But as for your religions holding back hell on earth, you're full of shit. Every time humanity has attempted to do something like that to itself, for religion or other reasons, blood was eventually paid back in blood. It's untenable, we're too brutal in relation to simply let something like that go as a species. Building a world on the backs of others will always come crumbling down on you(ask some of the brits on that note), at which point something new will arise. This fear of world domination that you have is based on a generation that's had nothing it really needs to afraid of, aside from possibly media hype. But humans, being human, will generally rise to the chance to knock someone's teeth out after it's been done to them. Not all, but some always will, and short of wiping out everyone there will always be some kind of power struggle, eventually resulting in the collapse or change of existing systems. Just as a last note, those who consider themselves smarter and stronger than others are almost always in for a rude awakening. I've enjoyed being it a few times, but I know better than to let it go to my head as there will always be something I can learn from others. Even what you describe isn't good vs evil, it's the same human conflict we've always had between the assholes, the other assholes, and every one else. Just plop some names in there and you can probably describe every conflict in human history.

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                                      Religion is a necessity, those without religion we are incomplete. Religion is a vital core component of the human species. In order for society to develop, maintain and build integrity, and for humans to develop emotionally and technologically we must have spirituality. However, those hellbent on domination and control will exploit religion to where we will be forced into bondage and arrested development. Those who wish to destroy religion want the same thing, arrested development and bondage. The only development we will get without religion is the development of new technologies to entrap us into iron grip bondage. You can go on and on about pedophiles and stonings, but that is not spirituality, that is donation by corrupt individuals in positions of power. Religion is being attacked by the globalists, especially Christianity. In a world without religion the state is god, and evil cults thrive.

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                                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                      arrested development

                                      What a great show...man I wish it had made it more than 2 and a half seasons!

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                        Money, material wealth, power, sex, drugs, and all that will never fulfill you.

                                        And if that's all you find in life without religion then there's an obvious reason you feel the need for it. I find creation and improvement of the software I work on to be quite fulfilling, if it was only about the money I'd have left ages ago. That'd be one of the exceptions in what has held my attention, to be able to take an idea, just about any idea, and be able to model it, run it through it's paces, and refine your model. That's quite a bit of interesting material, everything you can think of. But as for your religions holding back hell on earth, you're full of shit. Every time humanity has attempted to do something like that to itself, for religion or other reasons, blood was eventually paid back in blood. It's untenable, we're too brutal in relation to simply let something like that go as a species. Building a world on the backs of others will always come crumbling down on you(ask some of the brits on that note), at which point something new will arise. This fear of world domination that you have is based on a generation that's had nothing it really needs to afraid of, aside from possibly media hype. But humans, being human, will generally rise to the chance to knock someone's teeth out after it's been done to them. Not all, but some always will, and short of wiping out everyone there will always be some kind of power struggle, eventually resulting in the collapse or change of existing systems. Just as a last note, those who consider themselves smarter and stronger than others are almost always in for a rude awakening. I've enjoyed being it a few times, but I know better than to let it go to my head as there will always be something I can learn from others. Even what you describe isn't good vs evil, it's the same human conflict we've always had between the assholes, the other assholes, and every one else. Just plop some names in there and you can probably describe every conflict in human history.

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                                        Distind wrote:

                                        find creation and improvement of the software I work on to be quite fulfilling

                                        I do too but there is another level of fulfillment that you have not yet discovered.

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                                        Even what you describe isn't good vs evil

                                        It is, that is what it boils down to. Those without spiritual awakening generally cannot differentiate the difference between good and evil, and that is the major flaw that enables society to degenerate into hell on earth, and enables those who are willing and capable to commit crimes against humanity.

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                                          One can be religious without any influence from others or religious texts. Words cannot explain what its like, it is a channel of consciousness that is required if you ever want to be fulfilled. Money, material wealth, power, sex, drugs, and all that will never fulfill you. The only thing religions are holding us back from is total hell on earth. I think one day religion is adequately snuffed, we will live in a bondage not yet ever experienced or dreamed of. High tech scientific bondage where humans are mere resources to be exploited, manipulated, bred, and disposed of by ruthless contolfreaks. You see they have a strong belief in Darwinism. They see themselves as the smartest and strongest, and if they can get something out of somebody in any way, regardless if it hurts that person or other people, then so be it. They feel it's the way it is, and that they are beyond good and evil.

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                                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                          High tech scientific bondage where humans are mere resources to be exploited, manipulated, bred, and disposed of by ruthless contolfreaks.

                                          you do realize that The Matrix wasn't a documentary on what will happen right?

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