I hate politics and religion!
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Jeremy, First, I agree with the general trend of your message. Jeremy Falcon wrote: I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. In stepping back I personally would not quite say all religions. I have no real beef with any religion (other than a true satanic cult.) I am a Christian but one of the two people that I consider to be my best of friends is Jewish and I have close Islamic and Atheist friends. My beef is those who use religion as a means to justify what they want politically. I think this is a method many on all sides in our problems now. I hope it is not offensive if I say I will pray for your family. "We are what we repeatedly do. excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." Aristotle
Michael A. Barnhart wrote: My beef is those who use religion as a means to justify what they want politically. I think this is a method many on all sides in our problems now. In retrospect, you are correct. And, I do agree with your sentiment. I was kinda venting. Not to say I'm right, it's just frustration needs to come out at times. Especially when it's your own brother involved. Michael A. Barnhart wrote: I hope it is not offensive if I say I will pray for your family. I am an atheist, but I do not take offence in the slightest. It's your way of showing concern. Thanks. Jeremy Falcon Imputek Excrement escapes everyone - even elders.
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Well, this whole war on terrorism just got really personal for me. I just found out yesterday my brother will be shipping out somewhere east on Dec. 6 - right before my bday and Christmas. He doesn't know exactly where he'll be yet though. I'm not worried about him unless we end up going to war while he's on tour, however. If that happens, I'm gonna be really pissed off. What sucks is that it was supposed to be me out there. I always wanted to go to the army growing up but I got in trouble with the law at 17 and they wouldn't let me go. Yeah, there are some laws you break and they don't want you in the army anymore. He just signed up for the reserves because he wanted the extra money the dumbass recruiters always lie about to meet their quotas. And, I can't shake the thought of me my brother being there instead of me seeming wrong somehow. This crap all comes down to dipshits in "power" not wanting their egos hurt or their religion insulted. That goes for ALL countries and not just the US. And, any stupid CPians wishing to use this thread to speak poorly of or blame the US or defend their religious beliefs can kiss my ass. I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. If more people studied the human mind and human nature and why people are the way they are, outside the presence of their own fragile egos, religion would eventually fizzle out -- guaranteed. One thing's for sure... I hate politics and religion. Screw all of it. Jeremy Falcon Imputek Excrement escapes everyone - even elders.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. The world is very evil. I think i speak for us all when i say the earth will be far better off when it's engulfed in flames and we're all dead. Shog9 ------
There are no idyllic places left. The war between order and malignancy has reared its head on yet another battlefield. - Fouad Ajami
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. The world is very evil. I think i speak for us all when i say the earth will be far better off when it's engulfed in flames and we're all dead. Shog9 ------
There are no idyllic places left. The war between order and malignancy has reared its head on yet another battlefield. - Fouad Ajami
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Well, this whole war on terrorism just got really personal for me. I just found out yesterday my brother will be shipping out somewhere east on Dec. 6 - right before my bday and Christmas. He doesn't know exactly where he'll be yet though. I'm not worried about him unless we end up going to war while he's on tour, however. If that happens, I'm gonna be really pissed off. What sucks is that it was supposed to be me out there. I always wanted to go to the army growing up but I got in trouble with the law at 17 and they wouldn't let me go. Yeah, there are some laws you break and they don't want you in the army anymore. He just signed up for the reserves because he wanted the extra money the dumbass recruiters always lie about to meet their quotas. And, I can't shake the thought of me my brother being there instead of me seeming wrong somehow. This crap all comes down to dipshits in "power" not wanting their egos hurt or their religion insulted. That goes for ALL countries and not just the US. And, any stupid CPians wishing to use this thread to speak poorly of or blame the US or defend their religious beliefs can kiss my ass. I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. If more people studied the human mind and human nature and why people are the way they are, outside the presence of their own fragile egos, religion would eventually fizzle out -- guaranteed. One thing's for sure... I hate politics and religion. Screw all of it. Jeremy Falcon Imputek Excrement escapes everyone - even elders.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I hate politics and religion. Screw all of it. The problem, however, is that both are inevitable in human populations. You cannot have civilized human society without politics of some flavor or other. Religion can never "fizzle out" because once you have successfully dismantled one source of moral authority another rises immediately to take its place. Human society cannot survive in a moral vacume. In fact, far from becoming less religious, society is becoming ever more intolerant of those who defy established moral authority. Both politics and religion are essential components of any civil social order. The scary thing is that the distinction between the two is becoming ever more difficult to discern. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. The world is very evil. I think i speak for us all when i say the earth will be far better off when it's engulfed in flames and we're all dead. Shog9 ------
There are no idyllic places left. The war between order and malignancy has reared its head on yet another battlefield. - Fouad Ajami
Shog9 wrote: I think i speak for us all when i say the earth will be far better off when it's engulfed in flames and we're all dead. Hey! I thought you said you wanted to sit on your porch, enjoy a good beer and watch nature. ;) Shog9 wrote: The world is very evil I don't think so. Confused, misguided, struggling to come to grips maybe, but not evil.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
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Shog9 wrote: I think i speak for us all when i say the earth will be far better off when it's engulfed in flames and we're all dead. Hey! I thought you said you wanted to sit on your porch, enjoy a good beer and watch nature. ;) Shog9 wrote: The world is very evil I don't think so. Confused, misguided, struggling to come to grips maybe, but not evil.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRay Cassick wrote:
Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul WatsonPaul Watson wrote: I thought you said you wanted to sit on your porch, enjoy a good beer and watch nature. I now have reason to believe the deer are developing Weapons of Mass Destruction, perhaps biological in nature. This has changed my outlook on the matter... Paul Watson wrote: Confused, misguided, struggling to come to grips maybe, but not evil. Hmmm... By most accounts, it's had a fair bit of time to get a grip by now; if it hasn't already, i don't think it's gonna. No, much as i'd like to believe this is all just a misunderstanding, i feel the evidence clearly shows a history of intentional and inexcusable Evil. Shog9 ------
to the revelations of fresh faced youth no one will come to save you so speak your peace in the murmurs drawn but youth is wasted on the young - Smashing Pumpkins, Thru the Eyes of Ruby
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Well, this whole war on terrorism just got really personal for me. I just found out yesterday my brother will be shipping out somewhere east on Dec. 6 - right before my bday and Christmas. He doesn't know exactly where he'll be yet though. I'm not worried about him unless we end up going to war while he's on tour, however. If that happens, I'm gonna be really pissed off. What sucks is that it was supposed to be me out there. I always wanted to go to the army growing up but I got in trouble with the law at 17 and they wouldn't let me go. Yeah, there are some laws you break and they don't want you in the army anymore. He just signed up for the reserves because he wanted the extra money the dumbass recruiters always lie about to meet their quotas. And, I can't shake the thought of me my brother being there instead of me seeming wrong somehow. This crap all comes down to dipshits in "power" not wanting their egos hurt or their religion insulted. That goes for ALL countries and not just the US. And, any stupid CPians wishing to use this thread to speak poorly of or blame the US or defend their religious beliefs can kiss my ass. I blame all countries and all neanderthalistic, pathetic relegions. If more people studied the human mind and human nature and why people are the way they are, outside the presence of their own fragile egos, religion would eventually fizzle out -- guaranteed. One thing's for sure... I hate politics and religion. Screw all of it. Jeremy Falcon Imputek Excrement escapes everyone - even elders.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Yeah, there are some laws you break and they don't want you in the army anymore. Litterbug? Ever heard Arlo Guthrie? Son of Woody Guthrie? Arlo did a song called Alice's Restaurant. It's a story about Arlo the pacifist who was rejected by the draft for being a criminal. "You want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind." http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/alices.shtml[^] Has no real bearing on your post. It just came to mind when you mentioned your troubles enlisting. J
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Paul Watson wrote: I thought you said you wanted to sit on your porch, enjoy a good beer and watch nature. I now have reason to believe the deer are developing Weapons of Mass Destruction, perhaps biological in nature. This has changed my outlook on the matter... Paul Watson wrote: Confused, misguided, struggling to come to grips maybe, but not evil. Hmmm... By most accounts, it's had a fair bit of time to get a grip by now; if it hasn't already, i don't think it's gonna. No, much as i'd like to believe this is all just a misunderstanding, i feel the evidence clearly shows a history of intentional and inexcusable Evil. Shog9 ------
to the revelations of fresh faced youth no one will come to save you so speak your peace in the murmurs drawn but youth is wasted on the young - Smashing Pumpkins, Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Shog9 wrote: By most accounts, it's had a fair bit of time to get a grip by now It's not like there's one human mind with thousands of years of cummulative knowledge. Each generation thinks the previous generation totally ignorant and misguided, until they themselves are old enough to admit their flaws. By then the next wave of damage is already done. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
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Shog9 wrote: By most accounts, it's had a fair bit of time to get a grip by now It's not like there's one human mind with thousands of years of cummulative knowledge. Each generation thinks the previous generation totally ignorant and misguided, until they themselves are old enough to admit their flaws. By then the next wave of damage is already done. BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson
brianwelsch wrote: Each generation thinks the previous generation totally ignorant and misguided, until they themselves are old enough to admit their flaws. Exactly! In spite of plenty of available documentation on wrong ways to live, we arrogantly repeat the mistakes of past generations until we've managed to make a thorough mess of things. Then we ask for another chance, pleading ignorance and youth. And this has been going on for countless generations, with no improvement what so ever! Shog9 ------
to the revelations of fresh faced youth no one will come to save you so speak your peace in the murmurs drawn but youth is wasted on the young - Smashing Pumpkins, Thru the Eyes of Ruby
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brianwelsch wrote: Each generation thinks the previous generation totally ignorant and misguided, until they themselves are old enough to admit their flaws. Exactly! In spite of plenty of available documentation on wrong ways to live, we arrogantly repeat the mistakes of past generations until we've managed to make a thorough mess of things. Then we ask for another chance, pleading ignorance and youth. And this has been going on for countless generations, with no improvement what so ever! Shog9 ------
to the revelations of fresh faced youth no one will come to save you so speak your peace in the murmurs drawn but youth is wasted on the young - Smashing Pumpkins, Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Shog9 wrote: And this has been going on for countless generations, with no improvement what so ever! Pretty f**king sad, huh? BW "I'm coming with you! I got you fired, it's the least I can do. Well, the least I could do is absolutely nothing, but I'll go you one better and come along!" - Homer J. Simpson