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Why in the world is money that's given to charity taxed?

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  • J josda1000

    I have to ask this question to those of you that like taxation and wealth transfer. I realize your reasons for doing it are justifiable to some extent. But this should really throw you off... If you want to help those in need, you say you should be for minimum wages, social security programs and the like. But why is it that if someone wants to donate to a charity, that the money is taxed? Why would that be justifiable? In this case at the very least, if money is being donated to a charity, it's going to help those in need. The government should get out of the way.

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    Ian Shlasko
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    In the US, if you donate to a registered non-profit, it's not taxed. Or more accurately, you just need to get a record of the donation, and then you can list that on your next tax return. Basically, every dollar you donate to a non-profit is deducted from your gross income. If you make $50,000 and you donate $10,000 to a registered charity, then as far as the IRS is concerned, you only made $40,000 this year.

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      In the US, if you donate to a registered non-profit, it's not taxed. Or more accurately, you just need to get a record of the donation, and then you can list that on your next tax return. Basically, every dollar you donate to a non-profit is deducted from your gross income. If you make $50,000 and you donate $10,000 to a registered charity, then as far as the IRS is concerned, you only made $40,000 this year.

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      josda1000
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      Ian Shlasko wrote:

      If you make $50,000 and you donate $10,000 to a registered charity

      Wooo big charity right there lol Anyway, yes I think for the most part that you're right, but I've seen some weird circumstances where it's not. I have to go find them again.

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      • J josda1000

        This is good info, thanks.

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        That document I referenced is quite a few years old, so may have since been updated. But why do you need this info - your next show?

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          That document I referenced is quite a few years old, so may have since been updated. But why do you need this info - your next show?

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          josda1000
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          No not at all. I'm just presenting another argument for all of us to argue about and yell and scream. Seems to work everytime!

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          • J josda1000

            No not at all. I'm just presenting another argument for all of us to argue about and yell and scream. Seems to work everytime!

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            Christian Graus
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            Actually, I'm not sure anyone has really disagreed with you, so far. Could it be that your stereo type of the attitude of people who don't want to just see all taxes cut, is wrong ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              Actually, I'm not sure anyone has really disagreed with you, so far. Could it be that your stereo type of the attitude of people who don't want to just see all taxes cut, is wrong ?

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              josda1000
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              Find what Josh Gray said to me.

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              • J josda1000

                I have to ask this question to those of you that like taxation and wealth transfer. I realize your reasons for doing it are justifiable to some extent. But this should really throw you off... If you want to help those in need, you say you should be for minimum wages, social security programs and the like. But why is it that if someone wants to donate to a charity, that the money is taxed? Why would that be justifiable? In this case at the very least, if money is being donated to a charity, it's going to help those in need. The government should get out of the way.

                Josh Davis
                Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

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                Distind
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                If you fill your income taxes out correctly I believe you can manage to get any actually qualified charitable donations taken off your taxes. That said, I'm not particularly found of donating to charities, particularly well known ones, as a significant chunk of the money goes to the charity rather than those being helped, typically a larger portion than you would have lost to taxes. Useful items, sure, helping someone who I know will use the money to dig themselves out of a hole, sure, tossing money in a charitable direction and hoping it gets to someone, not so much.

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                  If you fill your income taxes out correctly I believe you can manage to get any actually qualified charitable donations taken off your taxes. That said, I'm not particularly found of donating to charities, particularly well known ones, as a significant chunk of the money goes to the charity rather than those being helped, typically a larger portion than you would have lost to taxes. Useful items, sure, helping someone who I know will use the money to dig themselves out of a hole, sure, tossing money in a charitable direction and hoping it gets to someone, not so much.

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                  josda1000
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                  Distind wrote:

                  helping someone who I know will use the money to dig themselves out of a hole, sure

                  This, IMO, is the best kind of charity. It helps form, or enhances, a relationship.

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                  • J josda1000

                    Distind wrote:

                    helping someone who I know will use the money to dig themselves out of a hole, sure

                    This, IMO, is the best kind of charity. It helps form, or enhances, a relationship.

                    Josh Davis
                    Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

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                    Distind
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                    Definitely, though you can't really get it deducted, you can always get screwed by a legitimate charity like my fiance did with her couple hundred dollars worth the donated clothes. They never sent her the documentation for it.

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                    • J josda1000

                      No not at all. I'm just presenting another argument for all of us to argue about and yell and scream. Seems to work everytime!

                      Josh Davis
                      Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

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                      josda1000 wrote:

                      No not at all

                      Let us know when you are, you might be able to use the feedback you get from here to good effect, as long as you request that in any such future subject matter.

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                      • J josda1000

                        Find what Josh Gray said to me.

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                        Christian Graus
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                        He was just grumpy, that's different.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          He was just grumpy, that's different.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          josda1000
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                          I'm sorry, but you'd have to make that excuse for literally everything he's ever said to me. So no, I'm sorry, I don't care to hear it.

                          Josh Davis
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                          • J josda1000

                            You made the claim that it's not correct. So I asked it. And I've been backing it up for the last couple days, maybe you're the one that needs to do research. Are you just here to give me a hard time? It really seems that way. If that's the case, I'm not laughing.

                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            I think they're a good thing and necessary for the kind of society I like to live in.

                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            useless rhetoric.

                            Damned right.

                            Josh Davis
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                            josda1000 wrote:

                            You made the claim that it's not correct.

                            In response to your claim. You cant twist this any other way. You made a claim, I refuted it, you can attempt to back it up or not. I dont really care.

                            josda1000 wrote:

                            Are you just here to give me a hard time? It really seems that way. If that's the case, I'm not laughing.

                            oh no.

                            josda1000 wrote:

                            Josh Gray wrote: I think they're a good thing and necessary for the kind of society I like to live in. Josh Gray wrote: useless rhetoric. Damned right.

                            I know you are but what am I?

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