CNBC: FCC Will Tame the Internet—Or Kill It
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I can't remember, fast enough to watch youtube, download ISOs, music, porn, multiplayer games, and so on.
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See edit + the link, it's slow. Upload speeds and average latency are not even mentioned even though they are the most important.
It worked just fine for me, I use the internet for everything and use tons of bandwidth.
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It worked just fine for me, I use the internet for everything and use tons of bandwidth.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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Just to get this out there, Comcast has been at the forefront of limiting bandwidth, blocking specific traffic, or any number of other ways to attempt to shaft their customers by changing the agreement that they originally agreed to. From everything else I've read, which wasn't written by an editor of a media outlet about to be consumed by one of the biggest offenders, this move is intended to keep companies from shafting their customers and in doing so potentially cripple national infrastructure.
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Just to get this out there, Comcast has been at the forefront of limiting bandwidth, blocking specific traffic, or any number of other ways to attempt to shaft their customers by changing the agreement that they originally agreed to. From everything else I've read, which wasn't written by an editor of a media outlet about to be consumed by one of the biggest offenders, this move is intended to keep companies from shafting their customers and in doing so potentially cripple national infrastructure.
The government has a monopoly on shafting. Comcast and other telcoms wouldn't have monopolies if it weren't for the FCC and other government regulations. As always, the government creates the problem, and then proposes a "solution" all in the name of taking over control major infrastructure and every sector of the economy.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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And if you're not brainwashed by Alex Jones, the REAL story is that the FCC is coming out in support of Net Neutrality. Basically, they prevent ISPs from raising or lowering the bandwidth given to certain addresses or protocols, in the same manner that your phone company isn't allowed to degrade your call quality if you dial a number they don't like. It's forcing the companies to play fair. That said, I only half-support this policy... They should be allowed to do standard traffic shaping (i.e. prioritize POP3/SMTP, cap streaming video traffic during prime-time hours, whatever), as long as they make that information available to their customers. Standard quality-of-service stuff... These companies always oversell bandwidth, so they're already incapable of providing their advertised rates 24/7. But they shouldn't be permitted to block or cripple certain sites. That's censorship at best, outright blackmail at worst. If this was established as an acceptable practice, the larger ISPs like Time Warner and Comcast would be able to extort content providers... "That's a nice website you got there... Would be a shame if it were to go offline for our five million customers, wouldn't it?"
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And if you're not brainwashed by Alex Jones, the REAL story is that the FCC is coming out in support of Net Neutrality. Basically, they prevent ISPs from raising or lowering the bandwidth given to certain addresses or protocols, in the same manner that your phone company isn't allowed to degrade your call quality if you dial a number they don't like. It's forcing the companies to play fair. That said, I only half-support this policy... They should be allowed to do standard traffic shaping (i.e. prioritize POP3/SMTP, cap streaming video traffic during prime-time hours, whatever), as long as they make that information available to their customers. Standard quality-of-service stuff... These companies always oversell bandwidth, so they're already incapable of providing their advertised rates 24/7. But they shouldn't be permitted to block or cripple certain sites. That's censorship at best, outright blackmail at worst. If this was established as an acceptable practice, the larger ISPs like Time Warner and Comcast would be able to extort content providers... "That's a nice website you got there... Would be a shame if it were to go offline for our five million customers, wouldn't it?"
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)ISPs should be able to do whatever they like, so as long as it is what the consumers agreed to (if they signed a contract). Otherwise, if it weren't for the regulations already in place, there would be more competition. I'm for repealing all regulations.
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ISPs should be able to do whatever they like, so as long as it is what the consumers agreed to (if they signed a contract). Otherwise, if it weren't for the regulations already in place, there would be more competition. I'm for repealing all regulations.
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The customers are signing agreements like "The bandwidth may not always be as high as advertised"... Not "Your favorite websites may be unavailable if they don't pay us". As for competition... Do you have any idea how expensive it is to wire up a neighborhood? Even if one or two more companies enter the game, there's never going to be enough competition to ensure fair play. And anyone who lives in a condo or apartment building is still screwed, because the building management decides which network gets hooked up. Even if wireless broadband actually becomes a reality, there'll still be only a few big players, because the spectrum needs to be regulated (Otherwise everything interferes and nothing works). So real competition in this industry is a pipe dream.
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ISPs should be able to do whatever they like, so as long as it is what the consumers agreed to (if they signed a contract). Otherwise, if it weren't for the regulations already in place, there would be more competition. I'm for repealing all regulations.
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Do you repeal potatoes before frying.
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The government has a monopoly on shafting. Comcast and other telcoms wouldn't have monopolies if it weren't for the FCC and other government regulations. As always, the government creates the problem, and then proposes a "solution" all in the name of taking over control major infrastructure and every sector of the economy.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The government has a monopoly on shafting.
Pfft, if you believe that I have a few managers to introduce you to.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Comcast and other telcoms wouldn't have monopolies if it weren't for the FCC and other government regulations.
Really? Because I heard they claim them as they have the networks laid out and no one else can afford to eat the startup costs.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As always, the government creates the problem, and then proposes a "solution" all in the name of taking over control major infrastructure and every sector of the economy.
So, if it's a private company censoring the Internet you're fine with it? Makes about as much sense as usual.
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The customers are signing agreements like "The bandwidth may not always be as high as advertised"... Not "Your favorite websites may be unavailable if they don't pay us". As for competition... Do you have any idea how expensive it is to wire up a neighborhood? Even if one or two more companies enter the game, there's never going to be enough competition to ensure fair play. And anyone who lives in a condo or apartment building is still screwed, because the building management decides which network gets hooked up. Even if wireless broadband actually becomes a reality, there'll still be only a few big players, because the spectrum needs to be regulated (Otherwise everything interferes and nothing works). So real competition in this industry is a pipe dream.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
The customers are signing agreements like "The bandwidth may not always be as high as advertised"... Not "Your favorite websites may be unavailable if they don't pay us".
Well, if the company broke the contract then they broke the law, otherwise, the customer agreed to it.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
As for competition... Do you have any idea how expensive it is to wire up a neighborhood?
Do you have any idea how much money ISPs make? Very profitable business.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Even if wireless broadband actually becomes a reality
It already has, years ago. I had a 3G connection for a year, it was great.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
So real competition in this industry is a pipe dream.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The government has a monopoly on shafting.
Pfft, if you believe that I have a few managers to introduce you to.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Comcast and other telcoms wouldn't have monopolies if it weren't for the FCC and other government regulations.
Really? Because I heard they claim them as they have the networks laid out and no one else can afford to eat the startup costs.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
As always, the government creates the problem, and then proposes a "solution" all in the name of taking over control major infrastructure and every sector of the economy.
So, if it's a private company censoring the Internet you're fine with it? Makes about as much sense as usual.
Distind wrote:
Pfft, if you believe that I have a few managers to introduce you to.
They are just wannabes. Like kids playing cops and robbers compared the the government.
Distind wrote:
Really? Because I heard they claim them as they have the networks laid out and no one else can afford to eat the startup costs.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Distind wrote:
So, if it's a private company censoring the Internet you're fine with it?
Yes, however I would not buy service from them.
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And if you're not brainwashed by Alex Jones, the REAL story is that the FCC is coming out in support of Net Neutrality. Basically, they prevent ISPs from raising or lowering the bandwidth given to certain addresses or protocols, in the same manner that your phone company isn't allowed to degrade your call quality if you dial a number they don't like. It's forcing the companies to play fair. That said, I only half-support this policy... They should be allowed to do standard traffic shaping (i.e. prioritize POP3/SMTP, cap streaming video traffic during prime-time hours, whatever), as long as they make that information available to their customers. Standard quality-of-service stuff... These companies always oversell bandwidth, so they're already incapable of providing their advertised rates 24/7. But they shouldn't be permitted to block or cripple certain sites. That's censorship at best, outright blackmail at worst. If this was established as an acceptable practice, the larger ISPs like Time Warner and Comcast would be able to extort content providers... "That's a nice website you got there... Would be a shame if it were to go offline for our five million customers, wouldn't it?"
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Why should they even want to prioritize POP3/SMTP? Emails aren't that big, they will get through quickly enough anyway - unless of course you do make them big but then they become the cause of the congestion instead of the victim. They aren't the victim anyway, a couple of microseconds delay doesn't matter for an email. But it matters a whole lot for online gaming.
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Distind wrote:
Pfft, if you believe that I have a few managers to introduce you to.
They are just wannabes. Like kids playing cops and robbers compared the the government.
Distind wrote:
Really? Because I heard they claim them as they have the networks laid out and no one else can afford to eat the startup costs.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Distind wrote:
So, if it's a private company censoring the Internet you're fine with it?
Yes, however I would not buy service from them.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are just wannabes. Like kids playing cops and robbers compared the the government.
I'll have to show you my work backlog at some point.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Not really, more due to the cost of that much cabling. I was involved in laying a great deal of cable here in my office, stuff isn't cheap and we aren't using anything as major as what they'd need.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Yes, however I would not buy service from them.
And if they're the only supplier available? I'm finding the phrase 'corporate lapdog' fairly effective in describing you these days now that I think about it. Though it's appears to be driven by a blind faith in the free market rather than any expectation of a reward from the corporations themselves.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
The customers are signing agreements like "The bandwidth may not always be as high as advertised"... Not "Your favorite websites may be unavailable if they don't pay us".
Well, if the company broke the contract then they broke the law, otherwise, the customer agreed to it.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
As for competition... Do you have any idea how expensive it is to wire up a neighborhood?
Do you have any idea how much money ISPs make? Very profitable business.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Even if wireless broadband actually becomes a reality
It already has, years ago. I had a 3G connection for a year, it was great.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
So real competition in this industry is a pipe dream.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, if the company broke the contract then they broke the law, otherwise, the customer agreed to it.
It's the difference between flat-out lying and just misleading. One is illegal, and one is legal but unethical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you have any idea how much money ISPs make? Very profitable business.
Know why? They oversell bandwidth. They only have N Mbps available, but they sell 10 x N to their customers, gambling that not everyone will want to use it at the same time. Kind of like fractional reserve banking, now that I think about it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It already has, years ago. I had a 3G connection for a year, it was great.
And what was your latency? More than 100ms or so, and fast-paced multiplayer games are pretty much out. What about the bandwidth? I stream Netflix movies through my Roku to my TV, and that works great. When I had it going over my wireless connection, however (802.11n), it was slow and choppy.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Congratulations. You ignore almost every statement that supports this conclusion, and then just say the equivalent of "Nope, you're wrong."
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Why should they even want to prioritize POP3/SMTP? Emails aren't that big, they will get through quickly enough anyway - unless of course you do make them big but then they become the cause of the congestion instead of the victim. They aren't the victim anyway, a couple of microseconds delay doesn't matter for an email. But it matters a whole lot for online gaming.
True enough. Just giving a few simple examples.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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net neutrality horrible thing, being fair I want higher bills the net is doomed or likely it will cost us Bet Alex can't though
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