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  • B Bigdeak

    If you have common functions reachable by the GUI, that are not important for the main of the application, this is a really usefull and stable act, and i do it in almost the same manner for at least the common methods. For example i wan't to change a image of a specified object. Now my ChangeImage() method throws a unhandled exception, with this try catch block around the method body there will be no quaint exception message, the application won't crash because of a single method exception, only the ChangeImage() method isn't working. ;) Sorry for my bad english.

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    _beauw_
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    I think it's true that failures related to some less significant features should not be allowed to disrupt other features. Even logging these failures in a production environment can impact other critical systems. So, there are probably legitimate cases where errors related to an entire subsystem should be squelched in the production build. Doing this is, at some level, a revival of ON ERROR RESUME NEXT. At a minimum, I think that good programming practices dictate that unhandled exceptions should halt the program in its development builds (even if some of these are squelched in the "release" build). So long as the transition between build modes is automatic and reliable, this can be a good approach to exception handling for some applications.

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    • K Kevin Drzycimski

      a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

      //method head
      {
      try {
      //actual method body
      }
      catch (...) {
      }
      }

      directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

      modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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      Kunal Chowdhury IN
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      try{} catch{} blocks should be use only when you need it. Else there will be a performance issue. It is not recommended to write try catch block for the whole code of any method. Where you expect to be a codeflaw, where exception may come just put your try catch there. Don't try to use generic exception in all the case. If you know some specific exception that may come, only catch those explicitly.

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      • K Kevin Drzycimski

        a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

        //method head
        {
        try {
        //actual method body
        }
        catch (...) {
        }
        }

        directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

        modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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        fjdiewornncalwe
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        What you don't see, can't hurt you... It'll only hurt the guy who has to fix it.

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        • _ _beauw_

          I think it's true that failures related to some less significant features should not be allowed to disrupt other features. Even logging these failures in a production environment can impact other critical systems. So, there are probably legitimate cases where errors related to an entire subsystem should be squelched in the production build. Doing this is, at some level, a revival of ON ERROR RESUME NEXT. At a minimum, I think that good programming practices dictate that unhandled exceptions should halt the program in its development builds (even if some of these are squelched in the "release" build). So long as the transition between build modes is automatic and reliable, this can be a good approach to exception handling for some applications.

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          Lost User
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          _beauw_ wrote:

          Even logging these failures in a production environment can impact other critical systems.

          ..logging doesn't require much resources (a small ringbuffer?), and should not influence the working of dependent systems. Having a global error handler that logs anything that's not expected helps a lot when maintaining the application.

          I are Troll :suss:

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          • D DaveyM69

            Jon Sagara wrote:

            Try/Swallow

            I'm scared to reply to that one!

            Dave

            If this helped, please vote & accept answer!

            Binging is like googling, it just feels dirtier. Please take your VB.NET out of our nice case sensitive forum.(Pete O'Hanlon)
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            Yusuf
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            DaveyM69 wrote:

            Jon Sagara wrote: Try/Swallow I'm scared to reply to that one! Dave

            Promise, it won't swallow you, Dave. ;P

            Yusuf May I help you?

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            • L Lost User

              RugbyLeague wrote:

              a great way to give the user the perception that all is right with the world.

              That's the goal, according to some of the teachers here. If you find yourself in such a group, by all means, adapt or leave - you'll be the source of all bugs and errors if you try to move to structured error-handling :)

              I are Troll :suss:

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              Stephen Hewitt
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              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              you'll be the source of all bugs and errors if you try to move to structured error-handling Smile

              Fair point.

              Steve

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              • K Kevin Drzycimski

                a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

                //method head
                {
                try {
                //actual method body
                }
                catch (...) {
                }
                }

                directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

                modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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                Abhinav S
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                Kevin Drzycimski wrote:

                they are world market leader

                Whatever sells! :sigh:

                The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's too late to stop reading it.

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                • L Lost User

                  RugbyLeague wrote:

                  a great way to give the user the perception that all is right with the world.

                  That's the goal, according to some of the teachers here. If you find yourself in such a group, by all means, adapt or leave - you'll be the source of all bugs and errors if you try to move to structured error-handling :)

                  I are Troll :suss:

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                  Kevin Drzycimski
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                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  you'll be the source of all bugs and errors if you try to move to structured error-handling

                  so right^^ once turning on printing error messages to stderr, there was so much outpu - it was turned off immediately :laugh:

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                  • L Lost User

                    _beauw_ wrote:

                    Even logging these failures in a production environment can impact other critical systems.

                    ..logging doesn't require much resources (a small ringbuffer?), and should not influence the working of dependent systems. Having a global error handler that logs anything that's not expected helps a lot when maintaining the application.

                    I are Troll :suss:

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                    _beauw_
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                    If you mean to say that every exception should be logged in every piece of software, or even in every .NET application, I just cannot endorse that view. Logging is I/O, which is a failure-prone and time-consuming category of operation. Consider what happens if I attempt to log inside of a deeply nested loop; some very bad things could happen, if the loop needs to continue executing on a real-time basis. In the "debug" build, everything can grind to a halt... in production, the time for that is over. Again, this is not necessarily a far-fetched scenario. There are .NET applications that control, or at least influence, real-time machinery. There are .NET programs that guide stock traders in real-time. Entering into an I/O routine is not always an acceptable response to failure in such environments, no matter how nice it sounds at the Airport Sheraton.

                    modified on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:43 PM

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                    • _ _beauw_

                      If you mean to say that every exception should be logged in every piece of software, or even in every .NET application, I just cannot endorse that view. Logging is I/O, which is a failure-prone and time-consuming category of operation. Consider what happens if I attempt to log inside of a deeply nested loop; some very bad things could happen, if the loop needs to continue executing on a real-time basis. In the "debug" build, everything can grind to a halt... in production, the time for that is over. Again, this is not necessarily a far-fetched scenario. There are .NET applications that control, or at least influence, real-time machinery. There are .NET programs that guide stock traders in real-time. Entering into an I/O routine is not always an acceptable response to failure in such environments, no matter how nice it sounds at the Airport Sheraton.

                      modified on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:43 PM

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                      _beauw_ wrote:

                      Logging is I/O, which is a failure-prone and time-consuming category of operation.Consider what happens if I attempt to log inside of a deeply nested loop;

                      I wouldn't expect a lot of unexpected exceptions in a deeply-nested loop.

                      _beauw_ wrote:

                      There are .NET applications that control, or at least influence, real-time machinery.

                      .NET isn't recommended for time-critical operations, but how many exceptions could the app raise per 50ms?

                      _beauw_ wrote:

                      There are .NET programs that guide stock traders in real-time. Entering into an I/O routine is not always an acceptable response to failure in such environments

                      I'm not talking about logging those exceptions that you handle locally, but those that you didn't expect and that don't get handled. There shouldn't be too many of those, and you wouldn't want to swallow those. Wouldn't want to ignore an divide by zero and price those stocks at "no worth" :)

                      I are Troll :suss:

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                      • K Kevin Drzycimski

                        a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

                        //method head
                        {
                        try {
                        //actual method body
                        }
                        catch (...) {
                        }
                        }

                        directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

                        modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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                        Alois Kraus
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                        Sounds familar :) Perhaps you should add at least some tracing to your methods like this one Then your code would be transparent to exceptions but you can still see what exceptions did flow through your code without becoming much slower.

                            public void Demo\_Show\_Leaving\_Trace\_With\_Exception()
                            {
                                TracerConfig.Reset("console");
                                SomeMethod();
                            }
                        
                            void SomeMethod()
                            {
                                using (Tracer t = new Tracer(myType, "SomeMethod"))
                                {
                                    SomeOtherMethod();
                                }
                            }
                        
                            private void SomeOtherMethod()
                            {
                                using (Tracer t = new Tracer(myType, "SomeOtherMethod"))
                                {
                                    FaultyMethod();
                                }
                            }
                        
                            private void FaultyMethod()
                            {
                                throw new NotImplementedException("Hi this a fault");
                            }
                        

                        The output would look the like this: 18:57:46.665 03064/05180 <{{ > ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeMethod 18:57:46.668 03064/05180 <{{ > ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeOtherMethod 18:57:46.670 03064/05180 < }}< ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeOtherMethod Exception thrown: System.NotImplementedException: Hi this a fault at ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.FaultyMethod() at ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeOtherMethod() at ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeMethod() at ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.Demo_Show_Leaving_Trace_With_Exception() 18:57:46.670 03064/05180 < }}< ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeOtherMethod Duration 2ms 18:57:46.689 03064/05180 < }}< ApiChange.IntegrationTests.Diagnostics.TracingTests.SomeMethod Duration 24ms That is a great time saver to find out where some exception did come from without the need to type try/catch(Exception ex) { LogException(ex);throw; } in many methods to find out where some exception did go through. Yours, Alois Kraus

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                        • K Kevin Drzycimski

                          a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

                          //method head
                          {
                          try {
                          //actual method body
                          }
                          catch (...) {
                          }
                          }

                          directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

                          modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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                          • K Kevin Drzycimski

                            a fellow student told me of a strange code convention in his job: almost every single method looks like this

                            //method head
                            {
                            try {
                            //actual method body
                            }
                            catch (...) {
                            }
                            }

                            directly after the head opens a try block over the whole body. all errors are just thrown away. the programs work and never crash! they are world market leader :-D seems this fast and easy developing is quite successfull at all. they are more engineers, so these kludges seem appropriate.

                            modified on Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:57 PM

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                            They've implemented the most efficient source of Mystery Errors ever devised.

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