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How not to run your foreign policy

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  • S Smithers Jones

    I'd say, less than five minutes till the pizza boy cries "fake".

    "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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    Ian Shlasko
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    He's running slow today... Must be another weed nap.

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    Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/13/iran.missing.scientist/index.html[^] Now, I'm not going to claim that I know what happened, I'm not going to say we didn't kidnap him, but I am going to say however we got him, if we did at all, it was a fairly stupid idea. Could be I'm used to dealing with belligerent people, and I'm attempting to apply it to belligerent nations. Assuming it was a defection, you have to stop and think, a highly visible person, on a highly interesting project, from a nation looking for an excuse asks to defect. Who exactly considers this a good idea? First off from the moment he disappears they'll blame us, which they did. Secondly it could easily be spun by him after the fact into a kidnapping as we typically do not comment on defections. Thirdly, how the bloody hell does someone kidnapped by the CIA get out? If you're going to do something blatantly illegal do it right CIA! Of course there's also the off chance that this was some kind of twisted setup, which would explain some things and not make the CIA look like complete idiots. But given the black nature of any such movements by the US government they can't really prove they didn't do it. Either stupid on our part, or surprisingly good on theirs.

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      ragnaroknrol
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      It's a conspiracy by the CIA. They do this, take a bloody nose and no one will believe they are competent. They can then go about their foreign renditions, toppling governments and general illegal spy work and people will be like "those idiots? They can't even kidnap a guy right. " They didn't actually care about this guy

      If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        I was born here, I have a birth certificate, and I would gladly show it off if I were the president. Instead our piece of crap can't even show his birth certificate, and instead spends millions on legal battles to avoid having to show it, and activates his media partners to brew up an anti-birther campaign. My ancestors came here LEGALLY, unlike the criminal drug gangs that come up here and kill ranchers and attack police officers, get on welfare, and protest for a communist revolution.

        Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        Did they? A lot of the poor who emigrated to the Americas in the late 19th - early 20th century arrived without documents. Me thinks that's a gnat's tadger's scrotem the wrong side of legal. You are, without putting too fine a point on it, a badly educated retard with the personality of a cuttle fish. You just don't get it do you, your president is American by birth and by nationality. He's 100x the patriot you'll ever be. You twat.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          He's running slow today... Must be another weed nap.

          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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          ragnaroknrol
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          If I ask nicely, can I get a nap too? I hate SQL digging. Think I found the issue though.

          If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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            If I ask nicely, can I get a nap too? I hate SQL digging. Think I found the issue though.

            If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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            Ian Shlasko
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            You think SQL is bad... Man, could I one-up you right now, if I was allowed to go into detail about this crap... Third-party system... Data is half automated, half user-entered... And I'm trying to perfect an automated system to get it into a real database... There is SO much illogical, garbage, and semi-redundant data here, it makes me want to scream...

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              You need to break your conditioning, you aren't able to think clearly because roadblocks have been set up. You have been programmed to think inside a mental box created by the social engineers. Read up on Edward Bernays.

              Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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              Lost User
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              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              You need to break your conditioning

              Listen to yourself. You have stated that you cannot express yourself coherently because you feel so strongly about 'politics'. Possessing a belief that defies rational expression is a sure sign of conditioning.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              you aren't able to think clearly because roadblocks have been set up

              Again, this relates to you:

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              even if I tried to think like you, it would be too artificial and outrageous to actually believe what I was thinking

              you cannot think rationally because of your roadblocks. Your conditioning, aided by your drug abuse, causes you to see black as white and vice versa.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              You have been programmed to think inside a mental box created by the social engineers.

              It must be hard for you visiting a site where those who are conservative and those who are liberal all think you an idiot. Your only defence is to imagine that we are all 'programmed' in some way so as not to see beyond the $5 an hour burger flipper to the great political commentator that you feel yourself to be.

              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

              Read up on Edward Bernays.

              So passé, don't you know. (Read him in the 60s, an example of old-style PR and propaganda - the not so hidden persuaders.)

              Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                All I know is that Obama is not American born, and he is trying to destroy the country. Its impossible for me to not see that, even if I tried to think like you, it would be too artificial and outrageous to actually believe what I was thinking. The mindset of a liberal is clinical, cold, medicated, dumbed-down, and illogical.

                Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                Yayozama
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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                it would be too artificial and outrageous to actually believe wthat I was thinking.

                Typo!

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                • I Ian Shlasko

                  Trolls? In Hawaii? Do they even have any bridges to hide under?

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                  Tim Craig
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                  They have Menehunes.[^] Industrious little buggers out building fish ponds and digging ditches. ;P

                  Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    I was born here, I have a birth certificate, and I would gladly show it off if I were the president. Instead our piece of crap can't even show his birth certificate, and instead spends millions on legal battles to avoid having to show it, and activates his media partners to brew up an anti-birther campaign. My ancestors came here LEGALLY, unlike the criminal drug gangs that come up here and kill ranchers and attack police officers, get on welfare, and protest for a communist revolution.

                    Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                    Tim Craig
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                    You weren't born, you were spit on a hot rock and hatched in the sun. And who fed how much money to those criminal drug gangs and let them get established? :laugh:

                    Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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                    • Y Yayozama

                      CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                      it would be too artificial and outrageous to actually believe wthat I was thinking.

                      Typo!

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                      RichardM1
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                      nice! :laugh:

                      Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        You think SQL is bad... Man, could I one-up you right now, if I was allowed to go into detail about this crap... Third-party system... Data is half automated, half user-entered... And I'm trying to perfect an automated system to get it into a real database... There is SO much illogical, garbage, and semi-redundant data here, it makes me want to scream...

                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                        Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                        JHizzle
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                        Not quite as bad but tearing my hair out over this, it looked like a simple job but isntead there's a table here with 80+ fields. They're not all used *in certain cases* and they're there to provide psuedo extensibility because some fields are for integers, some for strings, some for bits but they all do different things in the end application. But it's all administered by a single SP. It's been there since 2006 apparently and thus is so entrenched I can't rip it out. GAH

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          I was born here, I have a birth certificate, and I would gladly show it off if I were the president. Instead our piece of crap can't even show his birth certificate, and instead spends millions on legal battles to avoid having to show it, and activates his media partners to brew up an anti-birther campaign. My ancestors came here LEGALLY, unlike the criminal drug gangs that come up here and kill ranchers and attack police officers, get on welfare, and protest for a communist revolution.

                          Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                          Lost User
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                          You say that your ancestors arrived from Germany during the early 1800s.[^] As there was no Immigration Law to break at that time, the claim that they entered legally is no big deal, any Eurotrash "wretched refuse" could enter. It is more likely that your paternal forebears were descended from the Hessian military fighting with the British against the colonial forces, and that they later changed their history out of shame.

                          Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                            You say that your ancestors arrived from Germany during the early 1800s.[^] As there was no Immigration Law to break at that time, the claim that they entered legally is no big deal, any Eurotrash "wretched refuse" could enter. It is more likely that your paternal forebears were descended from the Hessian military fighting with the British against the colonial forces, and that they later changed their history out of shame.

                            Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Or possibly they were run out of Europe!

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            • R ragnaroknrol

                              It's a conspiracy by the CIA. They do this, take a bloody nose and no one will believe they are competent. They can then go about their foreign renditions, toppling governments and general illegal spy work and people will be like "those idiots? They can't even kidnap a guy right. " They didn't actually care about this guy

                              If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                              Distind
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                              I almost think you're right: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/14/iran.researcher.returns/index.html?hpt=C1[^] Now, he sounds like something CSS would spout off, I'm actually leaning towards the faked(one way or another) by Iran at this point. But still, this is so stupid it'd go a long way to letting the CIA get away with all kinds of crap if they owned up to it and everyone thought they were incompetent.

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