One less GW prick to fill the media with scare stories, Stephen Schnider is dead:
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
What was he supposed to do? Swim there? I bet if he did, you'd be complaining about his personal methane emissions instead.
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample. Mind you if its just another GW conference whats wrong with a tele conference?
Ian Shlasko wrote:
As for his lifestyle, why don't you actually figure out the answer, instead of just making mindless assumptions?
AH yeah, so of course Bali and Copenhagen actually acchieved alot did they? Well, actually they did for me. They pointed out what load of hypocritical tossers they are. Did you ever see the UN brochure about what the 15,000 delegates at Bali could get up to? I posted it on here. Jungle safaris, island hopping, all wondefull stuf. Funded by you and me, and producing tonnes of CO2. Sorry, What was that bleating I heard about lifestyle? And I can pretty much bet he has a car too. In fact I'll bet he has two. I bet he never cycled or used public transport, unless you call taxis public, whcih is quesitonable.
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fat_boy wrote:
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample.
Why don't you look up the details, and find the difference in travel times for those particular points between airplane and train... Then figure out what his schedule was, and see whether traveling by rail was an option in that particular instance? Or are you just going to oversimplify things again?
fat_boy wrote:
Mind you if its just another GW conference whats wrong with a tele conference?
Because half the point is to get the message out to the public, and the media doesn't care about a bunch of guys sitting in front of computers at a hundred different locations.
fat_boy wrote:
AH yeah, so of course Bali and Copenhagen actually acchieved alot did they? Well, actually they did for me. They pointed out what load of hypocritical tossers they are. Did you ever see the UN brochure about what the 15,000 delegates at Bali could get up to? I posted it on here. Jungle safaris, island hopping, all wondefull stuf. Funded by you and me, and producing tonnes of CO2.
This is how international political gatherings work... All of them.
Sorry, What was that bleating I heard about lifestyle? And I can pretty much bet he has a car too. In fact I'll bet he has two. I bet he never cycled or used public transport, unless you call taxis public, whcih is quesitonable.
Oh no! He has a car! What an evil person! Is that the best you can do? First you compare him to Al Gore, who I think we all agree is just a useless attention hog, and now you're going to insult him for driving, something that almost everyone does? Yeah, let's insult the 65-year-old cancer survivor for not riding a bicycle... You really are out of ammo. You "bet" he never used public transport? Why don't you do some research and back that up, instead of just making ANOTHER assumption without bothering to check your facts? Hey, let's take this a step further... Why not just say something like, "I bet he molested children," just to insult him a little more? Would that make you feel special? Would it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Is this supposed to be relevant in anyway? If it is you are going to have to spell it out because I havent a clue what you mean.
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Its not about my feelings, its about knowing what sort of person he was. Because you can bet the main media is going to go all gushy. Like this kind of crap: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/20/climate-change[^]
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Its not about my feelings, its about knowing what sort of person he was. Because you can bet the main media is going to go all gushy.
Don't give a damn about that. My complaint about you and this thread is your absolute willingness to desecrate this bloke almost before his body is cold. And that is bad form.
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Stephen H. Schneider, climate change expert,alarmist dies at 65[^] "heart attack on an airplane en route to London from Stockholm" ah so we cant fly because it releases too much CO2 but its OK for him eh? Perhaps if the prick had taken his own alarmism seriously and got on his bike a bit he might still be alive? Anyway, lets look at what this twat has given us over the the years[^]: "A cooling trend has set in, perhaps one akin to the Little Ice Age." Ah yes, that was when it was cooling for 25 years. "Temperatures do not increase in proportion to an atmospheric increase in CO2" Yeah, while CO2 was going up. "“We’re betting the planet. There’s no such thing as a safe level [of CO2]. There’s a level of very risky, versus mildly risky." Ah yes, now its warming for 25 years CO2 is the big baddy. Of course its also a stupid statement since if CO2 drops much below 200 ppm life on the planet pretty much stops. SO any level above 200 ppm is automatically safe from one perspective at least. " I don't set very much store by looking at the direct evidence." We worked that out already. ""[We] have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."" Whether its warming or cooling eh, just keep up with the scary lies? More Schnider alarmist lies can be found at: http://www.john-daly.com/schneidr.htm[^] Well, good riddence asshole. You managed to commit fraud and get away with it. Now you are dead you at least have removed YOUR personal carbon foot print form the earth. Perhaps the only honest thing you have ever done! ;P :laugh: ;P :laugh: ;P
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
What was he supposed to do? Swim there? I bet if he did, you'd be complaining about his personal methane emissions instead.
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample. Mind you if its just another GW conference whats wrong with a tele conference?
Ian Shlasko wrote:
As for his lifestyle, why don't you actually figure out the answer, instead of just making mindless assumptions?
AH yeah, so of course Bali and Copenhagen actually acchieved alot did they? Well, actually they did for me. They pointed out what load of hypocritical tossers they are. Did you ever see the UN brochure about what the 15,000 delegates at Bali could get up to? I posted it on here. Jungle safaris, island hopping, all wondefull stuf. Funded by you and me, and producing tonnes of CO2. Sorry, What was that bleating I heard about lifestyle? And I can pretty much bet he has a car too. In fact I'll bet he has two. I bet he never cycled or used public transport, unless you call taxis public, whcih is quesitonable.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample.
Is that thermal efficiency? And for what type of train? I'd expect diesels to have different efficiencies to electrics. And when you calculate overall efficiency for an electric you have to take into account the efficiency of the generating plant and transmission losses. The last time I looked generating plants were less than 50% efficient (but it does depend on how they are fueled).
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
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fat_boy wrote:
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample.
Why don't you look up the details, and find the difference in travel times for those particular points between airplane and train... Then figure out what his schedule was, and see whether traveling by rail was an option in that particular instance? Or are you just going to oversimplify things again?
fat_boy wrote:
Mind you if its just another GW conference whats wrong with a tele conference?
Because half the point is to get the message out to the public, and the media doesn't care about a bunch of guys sitting in front of computers at a hundred different locations.
fat_boy wrote:
AH yeah, so of course Bali and Copenhagen actually acchieved alot did they? Well, actually they did for me. They pointed out what load of hypocritical tossers they are. Did you ever see the UN brochure about what the 15,000 delegates at Bali could get up to? I posted it on here. Jungle safaris, island hopping, all wondefull stuf. Funded by you and me, and producing tonnes of CO2.
This is how international political gatherings work... All of them.
Sorry, What was that bleating I heard about lifestyle? And I can pretty much bet he has a car too. In fact I'll bet he has two. I bet he never cycled or used public transport, unless you call taxis public, whcih is quesitonable.
Oh no! He has a car! What an evil person! Is that the best you can do? First you compare him to Al Gore, who I think we all agree is just a useless attention hog, and now you're going to insult him for driving, something that almost everyone does? Yeah, let's insult the 65-year-old cancer survivor for not riding a bicycle... You really are out of ammo. You "bet" he never used public transport? Why don't you do some research and back that up, instead of just making ANOTHER assumption without bothering to check your facts? Hey, let's take this a step further... Why not just say something like, "I bet he molested children," just to insult him a little more? Would that make you feel special? Would it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
AuthoIan Shlasko wrote:
Hey, let's take this a step further... Why not just say something like, "I bet he molested children," just to insult him a little more? Would that make you feel special? Would it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
Now you are just being silly.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
How about a train? They are about 90% efficient for axample.
Is that thermal efficiency? And for what type of train? I'd expect diesels to have different efficiencies to electrics. And when you calculate overall efficiency for an electric you have to take into account the efficiency of the generating plant and transmission losses. The last time I looked generating plants were less than 50% efficient (but it does depend on how they are fueled).
Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.
riced wrote:
Is that thermal efficiency? And for what type of train?
No, its its mechanical efficiency. Diesels are about 45%, petrol engines about 40%. Steam engines by the way are abot 12%. If the electric motor is used for braking too then the efficiancy of an electric motor can be further improved overall.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
Its not about my feelings, its about knowing what sort of person he was. Because you can bet the main media is going to go all gushy.
Don't give a damn about that. My complaint about you and this thread is your absolute willingness to desecrate this bloke almost before his body is cold. And that is bad form.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And that is bad form.
It's perfectly normal to be glad about a bad person's death. He was a rotten apple, and now he is going to the landfill.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And that is bad form.
It's perfectly normal to be glad about a bad person's death. He was a rotten apple, and now he is going to the landfill.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He was a rotten apple
...says our rotten apple.
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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Can't expect anything less from a half educated white trash dim wit...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He was a rotten apple
...says our rotten apple.
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
Hey, I've never done anything more than 1/10000000000000th as bad as that guy.
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As if any further proof were needed that your obsession totally dominates your psyche... So tell me. Never mind CSS - have you considered getting professional psychological help? :rolleyes:
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LunaticFringe wrote:
As if any further proof were needed that your obsession totally dominates your psyche...
Its comforting to have something to hate. Gives life a sense of meaning anyway. :)
LunaticFringe wrote:
have you considered getting professional psychological help?
Why, you got a recomendation? ;P
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Hey, let's take this a step further... Why not just say something like, "I bet he molested children," just to insult him a little more? Would that make you feel special? Would it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
Now you are just being silly.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
You're the one taking a man who dedicated his life to science, and insulting him for trivial reasons and with unsupported assumptions, just because you disagree with his viewpoints. I thought you were better than this, but it looks like I drastically overestimated you.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Hey, I've never done anything more than 1/10000000000000th as bad as that guy.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Hey, I've never done anything more than 1/10000000000000th as bad as that guy.
Homeopathic badness. You are our rotten apple nonetheless. How did you calculate that by the way? Do you award bad-points?
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
And that is bad form.
It's perfectly normal to be glad about a bad person's death. He was a rotten apple, and now he is going to the landfill.
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Personification of bad form in this forum has until Fat_Boy's behaviour today has been almost exclusively yours. Bad form is not a badge of honour howsoever you slice it. Proud are you of your continued bad form? I wouldn't be if I were you, thankfully I'm not.
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Personification of bad form in this forum has until Fat_Boy's behaviour today has been almost exclusively yours. Bad form is not a badge of honour howsoever you slice it. Proud are you of your continued bad form? I wouldn't be if I were you, thankfully I'm not.
I don't think Americans give a shit about British form.
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I don't think Americans give a shit about British form.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
I don't think
True.
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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riced wrote:
Is that thermal efficiency? And for what type of train?
No, its its mechanical efficiency. Diesels are about 45%, petrol engines about 40%. Steam engines by the way are abot 12%. If the electric motor is used for braking too then the efficiancy of an electric motor can be further improved overall.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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I don't think Americans give a shit about British form.
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usual thoughts of someone with no education at all, who can't see that America the powerful, America the beautiful relies a lot on other countries to survive, China for example, mexicans to do the jobs that they're too lazy to do and because in their delusional world think they are chefs, software engineers and pharmacists at the same time :rolleyes: on Mexico to grow their crops and you can't deny the fact, because I've been at Walmart, Food Lion, KMart and half the produce they have there is from other countries, mostly from Mexico(limes, tomatoes, onions just as an example), to build the cars, my "american" car was built in Mexico (funny though) But like I said, that's only from someone with no education, with no ability to do some research, the americans I work with, pretty much very educated, are hard workers, humble and don't think of others persons or countries what our chef thinks about them, those are the true americans, americans that can think for themselves and don't need someone to come and think for them, you? you just were very lucky to be born in this country. BTW, have you kissed Ron's Paul poster today?? I already did to my Che's poster and also my mom, that's is a third world monkey... I growled to her twice...
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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LunaticFringe wrote:
As if any further proof were needed that your obsession totally dominates your psyche...
Its comforting to have something to hate. Gives life a sense of meaning anyway. :)
LunaticFringe wrote:
have you considered getting professional psychological help?
Why, you got a recomendation? ;P
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Do you actually think this guy that is dead gives a flying f*** about what you think or feel about him? he's dead, he doesn't care, trust me, his family? they don't come to this site to check news about his dad/husband/grandpa/brother/son/etc etc they are worried about other stuff. So why don't we all give it a rest and move to the next topic in hand?
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!