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  • D Dalek Dave

    From that website :"Philadelphia, USA • Mumbai, India • Tokyo, Japan" The defence rests, none of them speak English, merely some bastardized representation of it. The Clue is in the Name. You should learn English as she is spoke.

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    She isn't here. A, B, C, D, E. A, B, C, etc. Etc. implies all the rest, but actually stands for the things that are missing. Etc. = "D, E.". What it's called and what it stands for are two separate things. The Oxford Comma - standard US English usage is to put a comma before the and in lists of items, e.g. red, white, and blue; standard British English usage, however, is to leave it out, e.g: red, white and blue. More subtly "etc." (et cetera, i.e. and so on) should have a comma before it in US English; it shouldn't in British English but it is considered bad style to use abbreviations or latin terms so if you ever see etc. you should encourage the authors to try to rephrase things in a simpler and clearer way. According to this, you shouldn't be using etc. Hope she forgives you.

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      1. Which browser?

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      That was quick. Here's a few more. 1. ASP.NET is only development? "ASP.NET only web development" should be "Only ASP.NET web development discussions" (or questions (probably the former)). 2. C / C++ / MFC also have questions. All is forgiven on VB. I am curious to your reasoning between questions and discussions? 3. C++/CLI needs spaces around slash. 4. LINQ has flavo(u)rs (not the issue), but no discussion. 5. 7 from before is still an issue. Guess I gave you an interesting one. I believe it breaks when the text under Forum is two rows long. The row highlight though is correct. It seems the two are not completely dependent on each other. 6. Hardware & Devices - Trouble shooting needs no space or a hyphen. 7. Personal preference, descriptions should end with periods. On occasion, they're multiple sentences long and it seems weird putting a period on the first one, but not on the last, or not on all of them. 8. Sharepoint also has related in the description.

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        She isn't here. A, B, C, D, E. A, B, C, etc. Etc. implies all the rest, but actually stands for the things that are missing. Etc. = "D, E.". What it's called and what it stands for are two separate things. The Oxford Comma - standard US English usage is to put a comma before the and in lists of items, e.g. red, white, and blue; standard British English usage, however, is to leave it out, e.g: red, white and blue. More subtly "etc." (et cetera, i.e. and so on) should have a comma before it in US English; it shouldn't in British English but it is considered bad style to use abbreviations or latin terms so if you ever see etc. you should encourage the authors to try to rephrase things in a simpler and clearer way. According to this, you shouldn't be using etc. Hope she forgives you.

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        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        British English

        See, there is your problem. There is no such thing as British English. There is English. There is American English. There is Australian English. And so on. English is the Only language that counts, and what other people do to it is criminal! To say that in US English something is right is like saying driving on the right is right. Do it in England and there will be trouble! English comes from England and therefore the only people who speak it are English, so what we say goes! The final arbiter is the OED.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

          British English

          See, there is your problem. There is no such thing as British English. There is English. There is American English. There is Australian English. And so on. English is the Only language that counts, and what other people do to it is criminal! To say that in US English something is right is like saying driving on the right is right. Do it in England and there will be trouble! English comes from England and therefore the only people who speak it are English, so what we say goes! The final arbiter is the OED.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          English is British English which is the Queen's English. American or US English proves me right (which is where I am). Australian English seems to be similar to British English. But it all depends on the author.  In this case, I'm invoking "creative license".

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            English is British English which is the Queen's English. American or US English proves me right (which is where I am). Australian English seems to be similar to British English. But it all depends on the author.  In this case, I'm invoking "creative license".

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            But there is no such thing as British English. Which part of that are you having trouble with? The Us probably call it that because they can't call it English because that would mean they are speaking anything other than English. (Which they are)

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            • D Dalek Dave

              But there is no such thing as British English. Which part of that are you having trouble with? The Us probably call it that because they can't call it English because that would mean they are speaking anything other than English. (Which they are)

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              But there is no such thing as British English.

              A name by any other name is still a name.

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Which part of that are you having trouble with?

              None. But we can call it whatever we want. Creative license.

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              • D Dalek Dave

                From that website :"Philadelphia, USA • Mumbai, India • Tokyo, Japan" The defence rests, none of them speak English, merely some bastardized representation of it. The Clue is in the Name. You should learn English as she is spoke.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                Luc Pattyn
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                spoke? :wtf:

                Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  spoke? :wtf:

                  Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                  Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, and improve readability.

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                  Irony[^]

                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    That was quick. Here's a few more. 1. ASP.NET is only development? "ASP.NET only web development" should be "Only ASP.NET web development discussions" (or questions (probably the former)). 2. C / C++ / MFC also have questions. All is forgiven on VB. I am curious to your reasoning between questions and discussions? 3. C++/CLI needs spaces around slash. 4. LINQ has flavo(u)rs (not the issue), but no discussion. 5. 7 from before is still an issue. Guess I gave you an interesting one. I believe it breaks when the text under Forum is two rows long. The row highlight though is correct. It seems the two are not completely dependent on each other. 6. Hardware & Devices - Trouble shooting needs no space or a hyphen. 7. Personal preference, descriptions should end with periods. On occasion, they're multiple sentences long and it seems weird putting a period on the first one, but not on the last, or not on all of them. 8. Sharepoint also has related in the description.

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                    3. No, C++/CLI means "C++ on the CLI", not "C++ and/or CLI". 4. Yes, LINQ has various flavours. Want me to write flava instead? Word. 5. I hate CSS and rendering engines. Seriously. How on earth can a table cell be shorter than it's row?? I will ponder.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      4. I did say the spelling was not the issue. :) It just says LINQ (All Flavours), not questions or discussions. 5. That one is annoying. Is each cell in its own table per chance?

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                      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                      That one is annoying. Is each cell in its own table per chance?

                      :| <- That's me giving you a very flat look.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        3. No, C++/CLI means "C++ on the CLI", not "C++ and/or CLI". 4. Yes, LINQ has various flavours. Want me to write flava instead? Word. 5. I hate CSS and rendering engines. Seriously. How on earth can a table cell be shorter than it's row?? I will ponder.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        4. I did say the spelling was not the issue. :) It just says LINQ (All Flavours), not questions or discussions. 5. That one is annoying. Is each cell in its own table per chance?

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                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                          That one is annoying. Is each cell in its own table per chance?

                          :| <- That's me giving you a very flat look.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Better flat than C#.

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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            That one is annoying. Is each cell in its own table per chance?

                            :| <- That's me giving you a very flat look.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            For the cell height, the only difference I see is that the Description column has a .hover-container CSS attribute that the other columns do not have. Deleting ".hover-container" should fix it since you have the .hover-row attribute.

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              For the cell height, the only difference I see is that the Description column has a .hover-container CSS attribute that the other columns do not have. Deleting ".hover-container" should fix it since you have the .hover-row attribute.

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              hover-container defines the element containing the button-group that holds the buttons. hover-row defines the entire row to be highlighted on mouse over.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                hover-container defines the element containing the button-group that holds the buttons. hover-row defines the entire row to be highlighted on mouse over.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Interesting. Commenting out hover-container worked for me. However, commenting out display:block also worked. Couldn't see any direct side-effects from either of these actions. .hover-container {     position:relative;     //display:block;     margin-right:1em; }

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  Interesting. Commenting out hover-container worked for me. However, commenting out display:block also worked. Couldn't see any direct side-effects from either of these actions. .hover-container {     position:relative;     //display:block;     margin-right:1em; }

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                                  Yep - this also helps, but causes problems in other browsers.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    Yep - this also helps, but causes problems in other browsers.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    Well done! What was the issue? Looks like you deleted an entire stylesheet.

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                                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                      Well done! What was the issue? Looks like you deleted an entire stylesheet.

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      a) It's gratifying that you noticed b) The issue was a weird one. In Gecko and WebKit, if you specify that a table cell is to be displayed as a block then the boundaries of that cell (at least the boundary where a border will be drawn) can be shorter than the height of the row. I have a set of buttons that appear when you hover over a row (class=hover-row). The buttons are wrapped in a SPAN that is displayed when you hover over the row, and their position is constrained by the immediate container they are within (class=hover-container). To position the buttons correctly, the container needs to have position:relative and display:block, and the buttons themselves are position:absolute. If the hover-container element (the table cell, in this case) doesn't have relative/block then the bottons appear at the top right of the page. If they do have relative/block then the border of the cell is screwed up since the cell can now be shorter than the row. It dawned on me around 1am that all I was trying to do was constrain the buttons to be within the table cell, so I wrapped everything in the table cell within a div, gave it the hover-container class, and bingo, everything worked.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        a) It's gratifying that you noticed b) The issue was a weird one. In Gecko and WebKit, if you specify that a table cell is to be displayed as a block then the boundaries of that cell (at least the boundary where a border will be drawn) can be shorter than the height of the row. I have a set of buttons that appear when you hover over a row (class=hover-row). The buttons are wrapped in a SPAN that is displayed when you hover over the row, and their position is constrained by the immediate container they are within (class=hover-container). To position the buttons correctly, the container needs to have position:relative and display:block, and the buttons themselves are position:absolute. If the hover-container element (the table cell, in this case) doesn't have relative/block then the bottons appear at the top right of the page. If they do have relative/block then the border of the cell is screwed up since the cell can now be shorter than the row. It dawned on me around 1am that all I was trying to do was constrain the buttons to be within the table cell, so I wrapped everything in the table cell within a div, gave it the hover-container class, and bingo, everything worked.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        a. I've been in QA far too long. And my Math background makes me quite anal(ytical). :) b. Nothing like working at dawn for things to dawn. That's the problem with adding CSS attributes to every minutia these days, everything requires a DIV tag around it. Glad you got it fixed.

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