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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Not really. It's just a hardware glitch on a satellite. Yet you still tried to use it to "disprove" global warming.

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    wolfbinary
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    party pooper ;P

    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      Not really. It's just a hardware glitch on a satellite. Yet you still tried to use it to "disprove" global warming.

      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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      How often are the sensors callibrated?

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        How often are the sensors callibrated?

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        I don't know... You tell me.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          I don't know... You tell me.

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          Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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          Whether or not you know or he knows about how the sensors are calibrated isn't relevant. The hardware failed. It happens. So what?

          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            Whether or not you know or he knows about how the sensors are calibrated isn't relevant. The hardware failed. It happens. So what?

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            He's going to try to claim that the sensors in all of the satellites are too inaccurate to be used as evidence in support of the GW theory... And if he wants to try that, he can do his own research instead of just asking loaded questions.

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              He's going to try to claim that the sensors in all of the satellites are too inaccurate to be used as evidence in support of the GW theory... And if he wants to try that, he can do his own research instead of just asking loaded questions.

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              I'd like to see him make a satellite, launch it and then question the results. When politics and science ride in the same cart you get about as much sense as religion and politics in the same cart, pure nonsense.

              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              • W wolfbinary

                Whether or not you know or he knows about how the sensors are calibrated isn't relevant. The hardware failed. It happens. So what?

                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                wolfbinary wrote:

                The hardware failed. It happens. So what?

                The hardware failed and a stupidly wrong temperature reading got through unnoticed and was published. So now, what are the chances of other failures of smaller magnitude in all the other hardware? If they dont callibrate the sensors regularly, and it seems they dont, then its a joke, not science, or even engineering for that matter. Heck, when I worked in engineering we had all out measuring devices callibrated once a month. Slip gauges, DTIs, micrometers. Its basic procedure.

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                • W wolfbinary

                  I'd like to see him make a satellite, launch it and then question the results. When politics and science ride in the same cart you get about as much sense as religion and politics in the same cart, pure nonsense.

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                  No, I havent worked on satelites. Apache helicopters was the closest I got. Did I tell you I used to be in mech aero eng? So go away little boy, you are in the company of grown ups here who know what they are talking about. ;P

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                    wolfbinary wrote:

                    The hardware failed. It happens. So what?

                    The hardware failed and a stupidly wrong temperature reading got through unnoticed and was published. So now, what are the chances of other failures of smaller magnitude in all the other hardware? If they dont callibrate the sensors regularly, and it seems they dont, then its a joke, not science, or even engineering for that matter. Heck, when I worked in engineering we had all out measuring devices callibrated once a month. Slip gauges, DTIs, micrometers. Its basic procedure.

                    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                    Posted elsewhere on 13th Aug. Coastwatch apologises: NOTICE: Due to degradation of a satellite sensor used by this mapping product, some images have exhibited extreme high and low surface temperatures. Please disregard these images as anomalies. Future images will not include data from the degraded satellite and images caused by the faulty satellite sensor will be/have been removed from the image archive. All well and good, but why were the anomalies allowed to appear? Coastwatch is completely automated so you can see how something like this could slip through. Chuck Pistis Program Coordinator Er, no Chuck, I can't. Data processing lesson #1 - GIGO, circa 1956 Was it possible for this data to 'slip through' into the the data bank that is being used as the basis for future economic policy. I would doubt it, but ... ? Hence my support of those from other disciplines questioning the provenance and processing of data.

                    Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

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                      Posted elsewhere on 13th Aug. Coastwatch apologises: NOTICE: Due to degradation of a satellite sensor used by this mapping product, some images have exhibited extreme high and low surface temperatures. Please disregard these images as anomalies. Future images will not include data from the degraded satellite and images caused by the faulty satellite sensor will be/have been removed from the image archive. All well and good, but why were the anomalies allowed to appear? Coastwatch is completely automated so you can see how something like this could slip through. Chuck Pistis Program Coordinator Er, no Chuck, I can't. Data processing lesson #1 - GIGO, circa 1956 Was it possible for this data to 'slip through' into the the data bank that is being used as the basis for future economic policy. I would doubt it, but ... ? Hence my support of those from other disciplines questioning the provenance and processing of data.

                      Bob Emmett "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" -Charles Babbage, Passages from the Life of a Philosopher

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                      Yes, its shoddy. Damn shoddy. But thats the reality with the whole of AGW science. Its shoddy work. Bad methods, poor process, corrupted data, all done intentionally to show something that isnt there (not that I am saying warming isnt there, but the extent of the warming has been distorted). And in fact the enquiries into for example Manns Hockey Stick graph have stated exactly this.

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