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  • C Christian Graus

    Am I to judge from your sincerity rating that this is real ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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    Christian Graus wrote: Am I to judge from your sincerity rating that this is real ? I'm pretty sure he forgot to alter his humour rating. But the site looks real enough - it has addresses on it. But some of the things on there do make me think otherwise.

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    • C Christian Graus

      Am I to judge from your sincerity rating that this is real ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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      As Simon said I simply forgot, though I have yet to make the sincerity descision even to myself: so much appears real, but every now and again there is something that makes you think "surely this is a piss take". I was actually hoping you guys could fight this out yourselves. :)


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        As Simon said I simply forgot, though I have yet to make the sincerity descision even to myself: so much appears real, but every now and again there is something that makes you think "surely this is a piss take". I was actually hoping you guys could fight this out yourselves. :)


        David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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        It's got to be a fake. A lot of the pages seem pretty normal, but that stuff about bullying! No way - I don't think catholicism would allow that.

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          It's got to be a fake. A lot of the pages seem pretty normal, but that stuff about bullying! No way - I don't think catholicism would allow that.

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          Christian Graus
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          Simon Walton wrote: No way - I don't think catholicism would allow that. I doubt it would be so overt, but this is a religion that KILLED dissenters a few hundred years ago. Not saying the Protestants are innocent in any way, but you realise this is what they fight about in Ireland, right ? ( Admittedly, the difference of religion equates to differences between the people who were there first, and those who settled later, so it's not just religion there ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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            It's got to be a fake. A lot of the pages seem pretty normal, but that stuff about bullying! No way - I don't think catholicism would allow that.

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            David Wulff
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            I am inclined to think it is a fake too, I'm just not 100% sure. What closed it a lot for me was when I found the shop was not really there (so what if I wanted to buy an anti-errection ring... you never know, it might be really good :-O). That is the usual sign of a fake web site no matter what the topic being discussed.


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            • C Christian Graus

              Simon Walton wrote: No way - I don't think catholicism would allow that. I doubt it would be so overt, but this is a religion that KILLED dissenters a few hundred years ago. Not saying the Protestants are innocent in any way, but you realise this is what they fight about in Ireland, right ? ( Admittedly, the difference of religion equates to differences between the people who were there first, and those who settled later, so it's not just religion there ). Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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              I am aware that catholicism and protestant-ism (sorry) are a distortion or customisation or Christianity of a whole. If I were to follow Christianity, it would be plain Christianity and not a distortion of it.

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                I am inclined to think it is a fake too, I'm just not 100% sure. What closed it a lot for me was when I found the shop was not really there (so what if I wanted to buy an anti-errection ring... you never know, it might be really good :-O). That is the usual sign of a fake web site no matter what the topic being discussed.


                David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                "Life, as well as software, has bugs." - Roger Wright

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                Take a look at the feedback left by some people. It's obvious the site is devised by atheists to take the (urine) out of religion. It's very twisted though - I can't get my head around why somebody would do it.

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                • D David Wulff

                  As Simon said I simply forgot, though I have yet to make the sincerity descision even to myself: so much appears real, but every now and again there is something that makes you think "surely this is a piss take". I was actually hoping you guys could fight this out yourselves. :)


                  David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

                  Rememberance knows no boundaries. Wear a poppy and uphold the silence: 10/11-Nov-2002

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                  Christian Graus
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                  David Wulff wrote: I was actually hoping you guys could fight this out yourselves. I say it can't be real. No-one this deluded surely has access to the Internet. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                  • S Simon Walton

                    I am aware that catholicism and protestant-ism (sorry) are a distortion or customisation or Christianity of a whole. If I were to follow Christianity, it would be plain Christianity and not a distortion of it.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Simon Walton wrote: I am aware that catholicism and protestant-ism (sorry) are a distortion or customisation or Christianity of a whole. Correct. :-) Simon Walton wrote: If I were to follow Christianity, it would be plain Christianity and not a distortion of it. That's what I do, but then, both Protestants and Catholics would say the same. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Simon Walton wrote: I am aware that catholicism and protestant-ism (sorry) are a distortion or customisation or Christianity of a whole. Correct. :-) Simon Walton wrote: If I were to follow Christianity, it would be plain Christianity and not a distortion of it. That's what I do, but then, both Protestants and Catholics would say the same. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                      Christian Graus wrote: Correct. Hi supernintendo chalmers! I'm learnding! :D Christian Graus wrote: That's what I do, but then, both Protestants and Catholics would say the same. What I do not understand is that Christianity has a main bible that defines the religion. So why do people try to customise it, and how can they say it is correct when it is based on a customisation made by somebody not long ago? Surely they know that God would not want them to alter His words?

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                        Christian Graus wrote: Correct. Hi supernintendo chalmers! I'm learnding! :D Christian Graus wrote: That's what I do, but then, both Protestants and Catholics would say the same. What I do not understand is that Christianity has a main bible that defines the religion. So why do people try to customise it, and how can they say it is correct when it is based on a customisation made by somebody not long ago? Surely they know that God would not want them to alter His words?

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                        Simon Walton wrote: So why do people try to customise it, and how can they say it is correct when it is based on a customisation made by somebody not long ago? Well, Catholics were not allowed to *read* the Bible for over 1,000 years, and by then the fact that things are done a certain way for that length of time carries as much weight for some people as the Bible itself. 'We've done this for 1,000 years, therefore it's right', sort of thing. Nowadays I think a lot of people just accept what they are told and don't check out the Bible more than superficially to see if it's right. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                        • D David Wulff

                          http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/[^] The whole site is brilliant, but of special note are: Why science is wrong http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/science.html[^] Bullying Techniques for Catholic Children http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bully.html[^] A message to the intellectuals http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/intell.html[^] Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html[^] Arrange your son's castration http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/castrate.html[^] Put to death in the name of The Lord http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/deathvid.html[^] Brad Pitt and his Satanic powers http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bradpitt.html[^] 10 AMAZING facts about Osama bin Laden http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/ladenfacts.html[^] I married a masturbator (advice) http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/advicemast.html[

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                          • S Simon Walton

                            Take a look at the feedback left by some people. It's obvious the site is devised by atheists to take the (urine) out of religion. It's very twisted though - I can't get my head around why somebody would do it.

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                            Simon Walton wrote: It's very twisted though - I can't get my head around why somebody would do it. I have off and on participated in some online religious forums. I usually make a quick exit because most people seem to be there just to argue and insult people. However, the only people I know for sure will be there every time I pop my head in the door are the dyed in the wool athiests who want to ridicule Christians. It's almost like they know they're wrong, and trying to make up for it with volume. Either that or they have psychological problems that stem from abuse in a church situation, it's certainly bizarre and obsessive. I mean, I think Muslims are wrong ( sorry, guys ), but I don't make it my lifes work to annoy them on their discussion boards. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002

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                              http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/[^] The whole site is brilliant, but of special note are: Why science is wrong http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/science.html[^] Bullying Techniques for Catholic Children http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bully.html[^] A message to the intellectuals http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/intell.html[^] Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html[^] Arrange your son's castration http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/castrate.html[^] Put to death in the name of The Lord http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/deathvid.html[^] Brad Pitt and his Satanic powers http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bradpitt.html[^] 10 AMAZING facts about Osama bin Laden http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/ladenfacts.html[^] I married a masturbator (advice) http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/advicemast.html[

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                              "British Conservative Catholics" riiiiight... :rolleyes: Shog9 ------

                              Rather hammer futiley at the locked door than just sit and ignore it. Obviously finding a way to get through the locked door would be even better though. - Paul Watson, My Ignorance

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                                http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/[^] The whole site is brilliant, but of special note are: Why science is wrong http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/science.html[^] Bullying Techniques for Catholic Children http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bully.html[^] A message to the intellectuals http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/intell.html[^] Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html[^] Arrange your son's castration http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/castrate.html[^] Put to death in the name of The Lord http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/deathvid.html[^] Brad Pitt and his Satanic powers http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bradpitt.html[^] 10 AMAZING facts about Osama bin Laden http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/ladenfacts.html[^] I married a masturbator (advice) http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/advicemast.html[

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                                David Wulff wrote: _Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html\[^\]_ "Masturbation can cause... atheism" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: God I am still laughing. If anything being able to give oneself pleasure would seem to me a good sign that God exists!

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                                • D David Wulff

                                  http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/[^] The whole site is brilliant, but of special note are: Why science is wrong http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/science.html[^] Bullying Techniques for Catholic Children http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bully.html[^] A message to the intellectuals http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/intell.html[^] Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html[^] Arrange your son's castration http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/castrate.html[^] Put to death in the name of The Lord http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/deathvid.html[^] Brad Pitt and his Satanic powers http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bradpitt.html[^] 10 AMAZING facts about Osama bin Laden http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/ladenfacts.html[^] I married a masturbator (advice) http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/advicemast.html[

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                                  I love the popup you get when you first visit:

                                  The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is currently conducting a poll so the public can vote for their favourite Briton. In the top 10 is one of the most objectionable characters in history: Charles Darwin. This man believed that the world was created millions of years ago by monkeys on the island of Galipoli! I implore you to take part in the BBC Great Britons Poll and vote for HRH Diana. For not only was she the Princess of Wales but also the hearts of each and everyone of us. Remember if Darwin wins it will be one in the eye for all of us right-thinking Christians who believe that the world was created 5,000 to 10,000 years ago. It will be a victory for science over religion, so please vote now!

                                  (my emphasis) It must be a pisstake, surely -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                  • D David Wulff

                                    http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/[^] The whole site is brilliant, but of special note are: Why science is wrong http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/science.html[^] Bullying Techniques for Catholic Children http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bully.html[^] A message to the intellectuals http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/intell.html[^] Anti-masturbation equipment http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html[^] Arrange your son's castration http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/castrate.html[^] Put to death in the name of The Lord http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/deathvid.html[^] Brad Pitt and his Satanic powers http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/bradpitt.html[^] 10 AMAZING facts about Osama bin Laden http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/ladenfacts.html[^] I married a masturbator (advice) http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/advicemast.html[

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                                    "Buying the anti-masturbation pants made a drastic improvement to our son's life. No longer does he stay indoors playing with himself. He is a much healthier boy now who spends most of his time outdoors with a group of friends who beat up blacks and homosexuals." Mr & Mrs Bishop, Texas USA :laugh: :laugh: If you ever go to Prague, check out the Torture Museum. Some of the real anti-masturbation devices make this stuff look tame!

                                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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