states suing over a bill they get money for
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You say "Rush Limbaugh" like it's a bad thing. He's a tad obnoxious, but he's dead-on accurate about 95% of the time.
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Tim Craig wrote:
If he ask you politely, you can politely say no. Get over it.
I never said I wouldn't be polite. Where'd that come from? :confused:
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I do because he is. He's a bloated, obnoxious loudmouth who's caused more harm to the country than all the things he rails against put together.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
Tim Craig wrote:
He's a bloated, obnoxious loudmouth who's caused more harm to the country than all the things he rails against put together.
Rush Hudson Limbaugh has done more good for this country than any other talking head on radio or TV. So rather than engaging in mindless juvenile name-calling, why don't you focus on exactly what it is you believe he's done to cause so much damage. Please tell me if you can, specifically what harm he's caused. Take your time.
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Probably the "as long as it doesn't happen to you" part.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
Tim Craig wrote:
Probably the "as long as it doesn't happen to you" part.
Oh. So while gays can sue people to the poor house if they feel they've been offended, I don't have the right to be offended by them? Hm... Tim, the last time I checked I had all the same rights as a straight person that gays have (except "hate crimes" laws of course). Let's look at it another way. If a gay just asks me if I'd like to go have a fling, I will respond with a firm but polite "no." If he presses the matter... if he should touch me... then yeah he'll be picking himself up from the ground and I suppose I'll go to jail for a hate crime. But by the same token, if I ask a lady out and she simply says "no," then no harm is done if I leave it at that. But what if I push the matter? What if I try to reach out and take her arm against her will? If she smacks me in the head (which I'd richly deserve), has she committed a crime? No. She properly defended herself. And likely I'd still go to jail. Now... please explain to me the difference between the two scenarios above. Since in the 21st century we're not supposed to engage in sexual or gender bias, how is it that straight men are the only ones who cannot retaliate against unwanted sexual advances? Please explain.
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Tim Craig wrote:
He's a bloated, obnoxious loudmouth who's caused more harm to the country than all the things he rails against put together.
Rush Hudson Limbaugh has done more good for this country than any other talking head on radio or TV. So rather than engaging in mindless juvenile name-calling, why don't you focus on exactly what it is you believe he's done to cause so much damage. Please tell me if you can, specifically what harm he's caused. Take your time.
Everybody SHUT UP until I finish my coffee...
Because he's simply that. A talking head who found a formula for doubling his audience. You become so divicive that you attract the fringe who agree with you and also get their polar opposites to listen simply so they can scream at the radio what an ass he is. Rather than engaging in dialogue, he's the one who'd taken to childish name calling and is a stumbling block to any sort of discussing that might get something done in this country.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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Tim Craig wrote:
Probably the "as long as it doesn't happen to you" part.
Oh. So while gays can sue people to the poor house if they feel they've been offended, I don't have the right to be offended by them? Hm... Tim, the last time I checked I had all the same rights as a straight person that gays have (except "hate crimes" laws of course). Let's look at it another way. If a gay just asks me if I'd like to go have a fling, I will respond with a firm but polite "no." If he presses the matter... if he should touch me... then yeah he'll be picking himself up from the ground and I suppose I'll go to jail for a hate crime. But by the same token, if I ask a lady out and she simply says "no," then no harm is done if I leave it at that. But what if I push the matter? What if I try to reach out and take her arm against her will? If she smacks me in the head (which I'd richly deserve), has she committed a crime? No. She properly defended herself. And likely I'd still go to jail. Now... please explain to me the difference between the two scenarios above. Since in the 21st century we're not supposed to engage in sexual or gender bias, how is it that straight men are the only ones who cannot retaliate against unwanted sexual advances? Please explain.
Everybody SHUT UP until I finish my coffee...
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You didn't qualify your original statement. You left it hanging like the first thing that would happen would be you'd take a poke at him. Like what he does is ok as long as he never comes near you. Do you have a big "I love Rush" tattoo on your forehead to warn gays and every to the left of Rush away? I didn't say anything about you have to take him pressing it. I simply said if he asks politely, you can politely decline. Exactly like you expect the scenario to play out between you and said woman.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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Because he's simply that. A talking head who found a formula for doubling his audience. You become so divicive that you attract the fringe who agree with you and also get their polar opposites to listen simply so they can scream at the radio what an ass he is. Rather than engaging in dialogue, he's the one who'd taken to childish name calling and is a stumbling block to any sort of discussing that might get something done in this country.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
I'll address both your replies here: Regarding Limbaugh - his "formula" is that he holds the same views of a majority of proper-thinking Americans. The man started a media revolution because suddenly conservatives realized we didn't have to sift through the BS in the left-wing media to get the facts. We came to realize that we have just as much right to have our views voiced as the left. The reason lefties scream at him is because he does such a good job of outing them. Liberals only believe in free speech when it's liberal speech. They are consumed with the same mindless prejudice of which they accuse conservatives. Pure hypocrisy. Regarding gays - I didn't misspeak at all. I said that I don't care what gays do as long as they don't approach me. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't like being approached by gays because I find it revolting when that happens (not so often as I get older :laugh:). I described the 2 scenarios in an attempt to better explain my position. Perhaps I didn't do a good job. If so then I apologize for the bad job, but not for how I feel.
Everybody SHUT UP until I finish my coffee...
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I'll address both your replies here: Regarding Limbaugh - his "formula" is that he holds the same views of a majority of proper-thinking Americans. The man started a media revolution because suddenly conservatives realized we didn't have to sift through the BS in the left-wing media to get the facts. We came to realize that we have just as much right to have our views voiced as the left. The reason lefties scream at him is because he does such a good job of outing them. Liberals only believe in free speech when it's liberal speech. They are consumed with the same mindless prejudice of which they accuse conservatives. Pure hypocrisy. Regarding gays - I didn't misspeak at all. I said that I don't care what gays do as long as they don't approach me. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't like being approached by gays because I find it revolting when that happens (not so often as I get older :laugh:). I described the 2 scenarios in an attempt to better explain my position. Perhaps I didn't do a good job. If so then I apologize for the bad job, but not for how I feel.
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
his "formula" is that he holds the same views of a majority of proper-thinking Americans.
Hmmm, that sounds suspiciously like anyone who disgrees with him isn't a "proper thinking" American. Clearly, he doesn't represent a majority of Americans or have no Democratic elected officials and I seem to remember one in the White House and a majority in both houses of Congress. And you're perfectly free not to want to associate with gays. But I think it's unreasonable to expect them to hide just to please you. Their orientation isn't a choice, after all.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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Alan Burkhart wrote:
his "formula" is that he holds the same views of a majority of proper-thinking Americans.
Hmmm, that sounds suspiciously like anyone who disgrees with him isn't a "proper thinking" American. Clearly, he doesn't represent a majority of Americans or have no Democratic elected officials and I seem to remember one in the White House and a majority in both houses of Congress. And you're perfectly free not to want to associate with gays. But I think it's unreasonable to expect them to hide just to please you. Their orientation isn't a choice, after all.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
Limbaugh... Watch the carnage in November. The last couple of elections were the result of PO'd conservatives staying home because of the leftward ways of the current crop of Repubs. That's about to change, in case you haven't been watching. Trust me on this one. The Repubs will make significant gains in November, and Obama is a one-term president. Gays... When did I say I wanted them to hide? I neither said or implied it. What I said was that I personally find overtly gay behavior to be repulsive. There is no law that protects me from being offended, nor should there be. We all have to learn to be tolerant. Now if I find openly gay people repulsive, but do my best to just ignore them (which I do), am I not being tolerant? It sounds to me like you're just nit-picking. As to orientation, I know it's nearly always genetic rather than a "choice." Let's think about that. I am straight due to my genetics. Most straight people find homosexual behavior repulsive and that's genetic, too. It's all nature. Don't try getting into my jeans, and I won't judge you according to your genes. Jeez, that last line was lame. Oh well, too late now. I'm shutting down the laptop in favor of a bowl of Special K and a Preston-Child novel [^]. G'nite mate. :)
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_playing_both_sides;_ylt=AqbJWwIa50GLBz15eNdY7nCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTQwOHFzMG4xBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwODMxL3VzX2hlYWx0aF9wbGF5aW5nX2JvdGhfc2lkZXMEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM2BHBvcwMzBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDc29tZXN0YXRlc3N1[^] To understand this article, states are suing the federal government over the health care law that they are using to pay for health care costs. When they loose or drop the cases after making political hay people will quietly forget about the stink and what actually took place. All that will be left in people's memories will be that they were against it, not that they took the money they cursed. That is an amazing amount hypocrisy.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_