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The "burn Koran/Quran/[insert different way to spell it] day" thing continues..

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  • I Ian Shlasko

    It's a pretty stupid thing to do, but it's completely legal. It's a great way for them to say "Hey everyone, we're a bunch of bigoted #(%*&@#s!" Now, I want to see an event where they take the "holy" texts of every religion they can find (Don't want to leave anyone out!) and burn them all in the same bonfire. The message would be "Look, they're all just books." Actually, that would probably be misinterpreted as militant atheism... Hmm... Ok, let's see... Ok, new idea. Take all of those "holy" texts... Print a new book that interleaves the pages... One page of the bible, one page of the koran, one page of whatever else, and so on... Sort them randomly (But no repeats!) just to make sure it's fair. We'll call it... uh... Alright, that was the end of the idea, so someone else has to think of a funny name for it.

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    DaveAuld
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    Ian Shlasko wrote:

    but it's completely legal

    If this was the UK, i'm sure the police could charge him for inciting racial hatred under Racial and Religious Hatred_Act_2006[^] Must be something similar in the US.

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      I decided to visit the idiot's website. http://www.doveworld.org/[^] He's about as Christian as a piece of toast. Nothing like one extremist inciting another group of them. I just wish these idiots would be locked in the same room and never let out. The one thing I'll these extremists is their conviction runs high. How many people would kill themselves over an ideal? Not many. Most people are passionate money and not much else. I've noticed how that is always the number one concern over the years. How can I make more money? How can I get more stuff? What happened to having dreams?

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      "Server not found" is indeed about as Christian as a piece of toast.

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        Distind wrote:

        Well, at least you don't claim to support the troops while doing it.

        Nonsense, you don't support the troops by submitting to violent extremists at home. It hurts the troop's moral and strengthens the violent extremist's moral.

        Distind wrote:

        Now if only you could grasp your right to do it is the same right they have to build a Mosque.

        I support their legal right to build the mosque, I never said otherwise, however that doesn't mean I don't have a strong opinion about it. You see, the first amendment is not some thing that forbids people from speaking out against other people's speech or what have you. It just prevents the government from coming down and saying "You can't say this", or "You are not allowed to worship that".

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        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

        Nonsense, you don't support the troops by submitting to violent extremists at home. It hurts the troop's moral and strengthens the violent extremist's moral.

        Of course, you do it by attempting to deny people who have lived somewhere longer than you knew their religion existed their rights because it makes you think to process that they've been here, some longer than you've been alive, and they aren't the problem. And then you highlight it by torching their holy book on the first day of their holy month, which happens to fall on September 11th this year. Not that they don't have the right to do it, it's just really fucking stupid.

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          Ian Shlasko wrote:

          but it's completely legal

          If this was the UK, i'm sure the police could charge him for inciting racial hatred under Racial and Religious Hatred_Act_2006[^] Must be something similar in the US.

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          Ian Shlasko
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          Nope... As long as they don't start rioting or causing property damage, it's perfectly legal in the US. You guys may be ahead of us on certain things, but when it comes to freedom of expression, the US is way ahead.

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            "Server not found" is indeed about as Christian as a piece of toast.

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            wolfbinary
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            Oddly enough it was working when I linked to it yesterday.

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              Oddly enough it was working when I linked to it yesterday.

              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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              Ian Shlasko
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              Might have something to do with this[^]

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Agreed, burning it is likely to inflame the situation (sorry about the pun), the best thing you can do is point at it and laugh. And at the Bible, the Torah, the Gurū Granth Sāhib, the Rig Veda and any other religious texts. Open them up at random and point at the ignorance and stupidity, at the bad understanding of the universe and at the lack of any evidence. Then, laugh at the people who would kill you in it's name.

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                interesting considering the bible thousands of years in advance had the shape of the earth told, that it "hung on nothing" and general good hygiene laws (such as excretion removal) that in "civilisation" was vacant until a few hundred years ago. Not to mention moral codes that are still lacking. :)

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                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                  Nonsense, you don't support the troops by submitting to violent extremists at home. It hurts the troop's moral and strengthens the violent extremist's moral.

                  Of course, you do it by attempting to deny people who have lived somewhere longer than you knew their religion existed their rights because it makes you think to process that they've been here, some longer than you've been alive, and they aren't the problem. And then you highlight it by torching their holy book on the first day of their holy month, which happens to fall on September 11th this year. Not that they don't have the right to do it, it's just really fucking stupid.

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                  Progress? They don't tolerate anything but islam. You are not to be tolerated by islam or those who which to defend this country from islam. You are worse than pond scum. Burn the filthy trash books, spit on them, shit on them. and if any islamisist come by to kill some infidels, shoot them.

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                  • I Ian Shlasko

                    Might have something to do with this[^]

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                    wolfbinary
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                    Thanks. I thought it was the filter at work again.

                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    • D Daniel Casserly

                      interesting considering the bible thousands of years in advance had the shape of the earth told, that it "hung on nothing" and general good hygiene laws (such as excretion removal) that in "civilisation" was vacant until a few hundred years ago. Not to mention moral codes that are still lacking. :)

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                      Daniel Casserly wrote:

                      general good hygiene laws (such as excretion removal) that in "civilisation" was vacant until a few hundred years ago.

                      Civilisation is about 10,000 years old. Ur and Damascus? Ever heard of them? Britain had flushing toilets about 5000 years ago, and the Egyptians knew about food hygeine and were sailing to South America (although it was possibly the Phoenicians) so they knew the Earth was round and how big it was. All this predates the bible.

                      Daniel Casserly wrote:

                      Not to mention moral codes that are still lacking.

                      Yes, interesting that even Jesus says you should treat your slaves well and not beat them too hard or too often.

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                        Daniel Casserly wrote:

                        general good hygiene laws (such as excretion removal) that in "civilisation" was vacant until a few hundred years ago.

                        Civilisation is about 10,000 years old. Ur and Damascus? Ever heard of them? Britain had flushing toilets about 5000 years ago, and the Egyptians knew about food hygeine and were sailing to South America (although it was possibly the Phoenicians) so they knew the Earth was round and how big it was. All this predates the bible.

                        Daniel Casserly wrote:

                        Not to mention moral codes that are still lacking.

                        Yes, interesting that even Jesus says you should treat your slaves well and not beat them too hard or too often.

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                        Daniel Casserly
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                        and yet not so long ago (according to history of world type chronology) human waste was running through the streets of london, there still is a flat earth society. Your jest at incorrect and ignorant biblical pages is a little unbased

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Your stupidity is evident...

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                          We are just limited to 5 senses

                          Those that have read books that are harder than "Where's Spot" and "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" will know there are at least sixteen senses. Including, but not limited to : nociception (pain); equilibrioception (balance); proprioception (joint motion); kinaesthesia (acceleration); kairoception (sense of time); thermoception (temperature differences); and ,possibly, a weak magnetoception (direction). That is before you consdider the Pulmonary Stretch Receptors in the lungs; The Chemoreceptor Trigger Zone in medulla; Cutaneous Receptors in the skin which react to vasodilation in the skin and produce blushing. You should stop delivering pizzas and get a fucking education you retard.

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                          CaptainSeeSharp
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Including, but not limited to : nociception (pain); equilibrioception (balance); proprioception (joint motion); kinaesthesia (acceleration); kairoception (sense of time); thermoception (temperature differences); and ,possibly, a weak magnetoception (direction).

                          You really are that fucking stupid aren't you? I was referring to Sight, Smell, Taste, Touch, and Sound. :doh:

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            Nonsense, you don't support the troops by submitting to violent extremists at home. It hurts the troop's moral and strengthens the violent extremist's moral.

                            Of course, you do it by attempting to deny people who have lived somewhere longer than you knew their religion existed their rights because it makes you think to process that they've been here, some longer than you've been alive, and they aren't the problem. And then you highlight it by torching their holy book on the first day of their holy month, which happens to fall on September 11th this year. Not that they don't have the right to do it, it's just really fucking stupid.

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                            He's pretty spineless. Burning books is for the weak. To some people in this country Islam = evil. They forget that things like religion are just and excuse to justify they're idiotic actions. I've heard similar things from Christians over the years about other religions. Mormons are a great example of it, 'Sons of Ham'. The Mormon past is filled with racism, but they don't want to talk about that. You can't get Scientologists to respond to the whole alien thing. Right now Islam has to get through their own form of the crusades in order to mature. Sadly like most things man made, it's cost will be human suffering. I forgot to mention that for people who find Islam inferior to Christianity they forget that Muslim Americans are in the military protecting their unworthy asses from their fellow Muslims in other countries. The unworthiness of most Americans of the sacrifice the military goes through is amazing to me. People who hate are unworthy of living here. They are what takes the greatness of our country away.

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Including, but not limited to : nociception (pain); equilibrioception (balance); proprioception (joint motion); kinaesthesia (acceleration); kairoception (sense of time); thermoception (temperature differences); and ,possibly, a weak magnetoception (direction).

                              You really are that fucking stupid aren't you? I was referring to Sight, Smell, Taste, Touch, and Sound. :doh:

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              Your words... "We are just limited to 5 senses" Then I plainly showed that we weren't. So you are that fucking stupid. You do not even know what you are saying.

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              I was referring to Sight, Smell, Taste, Touch, and Sound

                              The ones Aristotle mentioned you mean? But then he got so much wrong as well. Extra Pepparoni on mine and don't be late or I won't pay. Arsehole.

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                                and yet not so long ago (according to history of world type chronology) human waste was running through the streets of london, there still is a flat earth society. Your jest at incorrect and ignorant biblical pages is a little unbased

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                                Still is when the sewers back up. And think how bad it is in poor places. Like New Orleans where even now the Sewers are still broken five years after Katrina. As for the shitholes around the world, I don't even want to think about them.

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                                  Your words... "We are just limited to 5 senses" Then I plainly showed that we weren't. So you are that fucking stupid. You do not even know what you are saying.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  I was referring to Sight, Smell, Taste, Touch, and Sound

                                  The ones Aristotle mentioned you mean? But then he got so much wrong as well. Extra Pepparoni on mine and don't be late or I won't pay. Arsehole.

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                                  Keith Barrow
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                                  :doh: You'll be telling him there are more than four elements next :-).

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                                    :doh: You'll be telling him there are more than four elements next :-).

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                                    Well yeah, there are 5 according to Captain Planet.

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                                    • I Ian Shlasko

                                      Might have something to do with this[^]

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                                      Chris C B
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                                      Of course, if one equates closing down a website in the twenty-first century with book burning in the thirteenth century, then we we haven't really progressed a great deal.

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                                        Of course, if one equates closing down a website in the twenty-first century with book burning in the thirteenth century, then we we haven't really progressed a great deal.

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                                        Ian Shlasko
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                                        Nah, unfair comparison... It was shut down because it violated the site's AUP... They had a provision barring "Hate speech."

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                                        • I Ian Shlasko

                                          Nah, unfair comparison... It was shut down because it violated the site's AUP... They had a provision barring "Hate speech."

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                                          In this day and age, I agree, an unfair comparison. However this sort of language, in the thirteenth century, could well have been considered as 'hate speech': Starting with sura 9:73 "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." ...or you may prefer sura 9:123 "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that god is with the righteous." ...or blunt and to the point, sura 2:190 "Slay them wherever you find them." There are several hundred others, equally questionable with regard to moral intent. Of course, if you were to read Deuteronomy or Leviticus, you will find some truly appalling stuff.

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