The other end of the "burn koran day" thing, and other
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Ok, what do you think about California's Prop 8 being overturned as unconstitutional? Or the current attempt to negate the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy as unconstitutional? Don't go running to Uncle Alex's site, what do YOU think? Oh, wait I just did an unintentional oxymoron. :laugh:
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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Ok, what do you think about California's Prop 8 being overturned as unconstitutional? Or the current attempt to negate the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy as unconstitutional? Don't go running to Uncle Alex's site, what do YOU think? Oh, wait I just did an unintentional oxymoron. :laugh:
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it? Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
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There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it? Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
Proof?
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There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it? Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
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It is like a boy going into the girls locker room. You just don't allow it.
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It is like a boy going into the girls locker room. You just don't allow it.
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There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it? Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it?
Of course you can, how do you think you were born?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
Bullshit, that's the same argument they used when they wanted to keep blacks out of the military.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it?
Of course you can, how do you think you were born?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
Bullshit, that's the same argument they used when they wanted to keep blacks out of the military.
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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There is no right to marry an animal. We are all living things, why can't we marry an animal and have sex with it? Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
I noticed that you deliberately avoided answering me on this point. Since you made the claim, you must also provide the evidence to back it up; either that, or retract it.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Gay men do not belong in the military, it undermines the integrity of our national security.
I noticed that you deliberately avoided answering me on this point. Since you made the claim, you must also provide the evidence to back it up; either that, or retract it.
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So what you're trying to say is, you're fundamentally not very serious about your position?
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So what you're trying to say is, you're fundamentally not very serious about your position?
No. All I know is that having gays in the military undermines the integrity of the military. Adding corrupt elements to the military has detrimental repercussions on our national security.
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No. All I know is that having gays in the military undermines the integrity of the military. Adding corrupt elements to the military has detrimental repercussions on our national security.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No. All I know is that having gays in the military undermines the integrity of the military. Adding corrupt elements to the military has detrimental repercussions on our national security.
You could've just said "That's correct - I arrived at my beliefs completely independently of any good reason to do so."
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No. All I know is that having gays in the military undermines the integrity of the military. Adding corrupt elements to the military has detrimental repercussions on our national security.
You could've just said "That's correct - I arrived at my beliefs completely independently of any good reason to do so."
Without good reason? I gave a good reason, it undermines national security. How? Adding corrupt elements undermines integrity by hurting troop moral and debasing moral forthrightness and honor.
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Without good reason? I gave a good reason, it undermines national security. How? Adding corrupt elements undermines integrity by hurting troop moral and debasing moral forthrightness and honor.
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No, those are your beliefs, not your evidence for them. Remember evidence, that thing that you don't have?
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No, those are your beliefs, not your evidence for them. Remember evidence, that thing that you don't have?
Do you really expect me to pull up some scientific papers showing the complex social and psychological mechanisms involved in a large military organization? A study that takes into account the vast majority of religious beliefs and moral values of the solders and how attempting to forcefully incorporate what most people deem to be undesirable into their social hierarchy is going to adversely effect national security?
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Do you really expect me to pull up some scientific papers showing the complex social and psychological mechanisms involved in a large military organization? A study that takes into account the vast majority of religious beliefs and moral values of the solders and how attempting to forcefully incorporate what most people deem to be undesirable into their social hierarchy is going to adversely effect national security?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you really expect me to pull up some scientific papers showing the complex social and psychological mechanisms involved in a large military organization?
You? No, I do not expect you to do anything like that. In fact, what you wrote is pretty much what I expected of you.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you really expect me to pull up some scientific papers showing the complex social and psychological mechanisms involved in a large military organization?
You? No, I do not expect you to do anything like that. In fact, what you wrote is pretty much what I expected of you.
I know it is considered very bad form to confuse an issue with facts in the back room, but you may like to know, in support of your argument, about Alexanders the Great's security arrangements. Mégas Aléxandros was certainly one the greatest military leaders and tacticians of history. His top regiment and personal bodyguard, his equivalent of Napoleon's Old Guard, or the British Brigade of Guards, were not only gay, but were chosen because they were gay. At the time, they were the fiercest and most feared force in the empire. His reasoning was that 'no such soldier would show a trace of cowardice in front of his lover'. (It is worth noting at this point, that Alexander went any of three ways, as he was known to be inordinately fond of his horse, Bucephalus!)
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I know it is considered very bad form to confuse an issue with facts in the back room, but you may like to know, in support of your argument, about Alexanders the Great's security arrangements. Mégas Aléxandros was certainly one the greatest military leaders and tacticians of history. His top regiment and personal bodyguard, his equivalent of Napoleon's Old Guard, or the British Brigade of Guards, were not only gay, but were chosen because they were gay. At the time, they were the fiercest and most feared force in the empire. His reasoning was that 'no such soldier would show a trace of cowardice in front of his lover'. (It is worth noting at this point, that Alexander went any of three ways, as he was known to be inordinately fond of his horse, Bucephalus!)
Why thank you, that's very interesting! :)
