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  • W wolfbinary

    No I haven't. The most I get to read these days seems to be the paper. Maybe this winter I can do some reading. I wikipediaed it and it sounds like fun to read.

    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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    Chris Meech
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    It's been years since I read it, but one aspect of the story is about predicting the future based upon outcome probabilities, similar to your original post. :)

    Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]

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    • W wolfbinary

      I had watched an interview of a scientist on the daily show where the scientist talks about how given enough information could predict with 75% or so certainty about what a person or group will do. I don't think people are all that unpredictable. Do you find people very predictable?

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      Keith Barrow
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      The group probability isn't too surprising at all. In physics, you can relate (random) quantum mechanical properties into bulk properties using the probabilities of members of the population being in each of the given states(this is called Statistical Thermodynamics). If this works for a random population, the effect will be stronger for populations where the randomness is decreased (e.g. human psychology being similar between individuals). Given enough information, I'd expect the percentage to be higher even for individuals but I don't think the science is there yet. Here is a question: if what the scientist says is true, what effect does that have on notions of free will?

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      • W wolfbinary

        No I haven't. The most I get to read these days seems to be the paper. Maybe this winter I can do some reading. I wikipediaed it and it sounds like fun to read.

        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        If this subject interests you then the Foundation series should be read. An excellent set of books to read and very pertinent to your subject. Basic premise is that the larger the group of people the easier it is to predict. Impossible to predict a single person but a large crowd is predictable and a population is easy. So Seldon, the oracle of the book predicted the fall and rise of a galactic civilisation.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • S soap brain

          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          Responding to my spelling indicates that my thoughts brutally trumped your thoughts.

          Gasp! a dangling participle! :omg:

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          CaptainSeeSharp
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          Hardly.

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Hardly.

            Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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            soap brain
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            DANGLE DANGLE DANGLE

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            • S soap brain

              DANGLE DANGLE DANGLE

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              Yes, that's all that will be of your manhood.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Yes, that's all that will be of your manhood.

                Invisible Empire: A New World Order Defined (High Quality 2:14:01)[^] Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] The Truthbox[^]

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                soap brain
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                A dangling participle? :confused:

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                • S soap brain

                  A dangling participle? :confused:

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                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                  Yeah :laugh:

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                  • C CaptainSeeSharp

                    Yeah :laugh:

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                    soap brain
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                    Uh...screw you!

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                    • S soap brain

                      DANGLE DANGLE DANGLE

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                      Lost User
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                      I now have this image of a rabid mangy old cat and someone dangling a bit of shiny string. :laugh:

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                      • C Chris Meech

                        Have you read Foundation by Asimov? :)

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                        Nagy Vilmos
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                        Chris Meech wrote:

                        Have you read Foundation by Asimov?

                        I knew you'd say that!


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                        • W wolfbinary

                          I had watched an interview of a scientist on the daily show where the scientist talks about how given enough information could predict with 75% or so certainty about what a person or group will do. I don't think people are all that unpredictable. Do you find people very predictable?

                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                          I find this thread has become predictable.

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                          • I Ian Shlasko

                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            are increasing their monitoring tenticals into our daily lives.

                            Why does that sound like dialogue from a porn film? Like... a parody of Enemy of the State... Oh wow, I just thought of a REALLY sick porn-style title for it, but I don't think I'm going to post it...

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Ian Shlasko wrote:

                            a parody of Enemy of the State

                            When a covert Government team clean out the bowels of a rather well stacked lady? Change Y for A?


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                            • L Lost User

                              I find this thread has become predictable.

                              Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                              Keith Barrow
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                              You would say that, wouldn't you ... :-)

                              Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]

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                              • W wolfbinary

                                I had watched an interview of a scientist on the daily show where the scientist talks about how given enough information could predict with 75% or so certainty about what a person or group will do. I don't think people are all that unpredictable. Do you find people very predictable?

                                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                Lost User
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                                They are as predictable as weather.

                                ...byte till it megahertz...

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