Are Independent Thinkers Mentally Ill?
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http://nestmann.sovereignsociety.com/2010/09/16/are-independent-thinkers-mentally-ill/[^] Do you question authority? Fail to accept conventional wisdom? Lose your temper when you hear a politician make a promise that you know he or she can’t keep? If so, you may be mentally ill, according to the most recent revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). In this revision, psychiatrists hope to add dozens of new mental disorders. Unfortunately, many of these so-called illnesses target people who merely think or behave differently from the majority population. It looks like I need a hardcore chemical lobotomy so I can be a good little lamb subservient to the government and its subsidiaries.
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An article written by an idiot who has obviously never actually read the DSM (since he doesn't seem to actually understand the criteria for diagnosing a mental illness) or been involved in the care of a child with ODD or CD.
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That is your very lousy opinion. We are talking about hardcore facts here.
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That is your very lousy opinion. We are talking about hardcore facts here.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We are talking about hardcore facts here.
Oh, facts, eh? Quote me the DSM. Go ahead.
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DSM defines ODD as “an ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior toward authority figures.”
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DSM defines ODD as “an ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior toward authority figures.”
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Try again. Quote the complete diagnostic criteria and for extra points you can highlight the key criteria that the author omitted when whining about how he qualifies for mental illness.
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You have no evidence that I am on drugs. You are simply attempting to insult me instead of facing the fact that Independent Thinking is now considered a mental illness.
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http://nestmann.sovereignsociety.com/2010/09/16/are-independent-thinkers-mentally-ill/[^] Do you question authority? Fail to accept conventional wisdom? Lose your temper when you hear a politician make a promise that you know he or she can’t keep? If so, you may be mentally ill, according to the most recent revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). In this revision, psychiatrists hope to add dozens of new mental disorders. Unfortunately, many of these so-called illnesses target people who merely think or behave differently from the majority population. It looks like I need a hardcore chemical lobotomy so I can be a good little lamb subservient to the government and its subsidiaries.
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Ginaelisa said it well: The DSM is not published or influenced by the government. It’s published by the American Psychological Association; an organization so reputable that it’s standards for publication are taught in colleges across the nations. I am a volunteer at an elementary school and ODD isn’t about not wanting to lie down at nap time. Violation of social norms refers to refusing to refrain from violence, severe bullying, and situations similar. These are the children who can not function in our world and (as misguided as our customs are) face a lifetime of self imposed-isolation. These are the kids who could have been misdiagnosed with autism. The revision of the DSM is just that: a Revision. The psychological researchers who participate in the publication do not invent new disorders. They review parameters and redefine for more accurate diagnosis. As far as medication goes, children are NEVER medicated without the consent of their parents and the decision to continue or discontinue medication lies in the hands of licensed medical professionals, not the government. Not to mention, medication usually goes hand in hand with cognitive or behavioral therapy. The accusation that Mozart would have been diagnosed with ADD is absolutely ridiculous. His ability to compose actually shows a brilliant capacity to focus. Your argument has some very basic flaws, mainly lack of knowledge. Look into the history of the DSM, the APA, and review the new diagnoses and you’ll see that no one is trying to medicate you into following social norms.
I agree that mental illnesses such as ADHD can be very much overdiagnosed, but that's more the parents' faults than the doctors. Apparently they get angry when they're told that they're useless parents who are utterly incapable of controlling their spoilt bastard children.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It looks like I need a hardcore chemical lobotomy so I can be a good little lamb subservient to the government and its subsidiaries.
No, you need a "hardcore chemical lobotomy" so you can wash away all of those years of LSD, shrooms, and Alex Jones brainwashing. Then maybe you'll BECOME an independent thinker, instead of endlessly parroting your favorite non-celebrity.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)It's not the LSD and shrooms. Did them in my youth an I still think Alex is a tosser.
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I, for one, would be very interested in you carrying out his request. He's much smarter than you are.
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I have the video, dude. Do I need to post it?
Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.
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http://nestmann.sovereignsociety.com/2010/09/16/are-independent-thinkers-mentally-ill/[^] Do you question authority? Fail to accept conventional wisdom? Lose your temper when you hear a politician make a promise that you know he or she can’t keep? If so, you may be mentally ill, according to the most recent revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). In this revision, psychiatrists hope to add dozens of new mental disorders. Unfortunately, many of these so-called illnesses target people who merely think or behave differently from the majority population. It looks like I need a hardcore chemical lobotomy so I can be a good little lamb subservient to the government and its subsidiaries.
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Sorry I personally think after reading that article that its baloney! As questioning actions / processes helps us learn and evolve our understanding of our own little worlds. and if you were to belive this article were all mentally unstable and should be locked up!
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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Are you left handed as well. ;) I was working in a retail shop years ago and a man was checking out and he commented on the lady that was writing up his order. "Left handed people are brain damaged, you know." He was paying with a business American Express card that said something about Brain Surgery on it. Needless to say the woman went ballistic on him. She was a redhead. Not sure about left handed people but redheads I'm sure about! :-\ You hair isn't red is it?
nothing wrong with left handed people.. were not all mentally unstable :D well least no one has told me yet :)
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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The comments on that article are amazing. The article seems to say that particular behaviors or patterns of behavior can be associated with particular mental disorders. How the hell do you get from there to thinking you're going to be imprisoned for decent?
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The comments on that article are amazing. The article seems to say that particular behaviors or patterns of behavior can be associated with particular mental disorders. How the hell do you get from there to thinking you're going to be imprisoned for decent?
Josh Gray wrote:
How the hell do you get from there to thinking you're going to be imprisoned for decent?
Stupidity and persecution fetishism. :doh:
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Josh Gray wrote:
How the hell do you get from there to thinking you're going to be imprisoned for decent?
Stupidity and persecution fetishism. :doh:
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
persecution fetishism
Hey I like that, perfect description of a family member of mine :)
Feel free to use it. ;P
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Funniest damn thing on this, if anyone is ODD, I'd peg CSS. That said, I've never known someone who was actually normal, now they're just coming up with technical terms for what is wrong with people.
Distind wrote:
Funniest damn thing on this, if anyone is ODD, I'd peg CSS.
No way. He just has an enormous and uncritical devotion to Alex Jones. It's sort of sweet actually...