UK only. Masterchef, what a load of cock!
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Actually cooking a cyurry would be a better test of a British chef since we eat so many curries in the UK.
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Reminds me of the much touted Anduilette. A tripe sausage. THey are truly revolting.
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So do you think Michel Roux would get French chefs to cook British food as a test on the French Masterchef? No. Its because he has his head up his arse about French food. Which isnt that special. OK, so forget fish and chips, how about a curry? They are damned hard to make well, but at least its a dish relevant to Britain.
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You're missing the point: it might be more relevant but they can probably all do that without the recipe: the poncy french dish is a test of their skill: it might have been any dish from any country that they would know fell outside of the competitors comfort zone. As an aside I'll eat pretty much anything but that just looked like something I'd throw out.
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Except that which we Brits call "curry" wouldn't be given the time of day by our Indian friends.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Except that which we Brits call "curry" wouldn't be given the time of day by our Indian friends.
Why? In the UK we cook curries from recipies written by Indians? Indian restaurants are almost always owned by Indians (lets include Pakistan here for the sake of argument). Their curries might have been westernised, but dont forget, the famous Tika Masala, created in the UK, is now popular in India.
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fat_boy wrote:
the much touted Anduilette. A tripe sausage. THey are truly revolting.
Only eaten it once, but I quite enjoyed it.
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You're missing the point: it might be more relevant but they can probably all do that without the recipe: the poncy french dish is a test of their skill: it might have been any dish from any country that they would know fell outside of the competitors comfort zone. As an aside I'll eat pretty much anything but that just looked like something I'd throw out.
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digital man wrote:
french dish is a test of their skill
Did you see the program? It was basic. Steamed Cardoon, sliced truffle and marrow, layered with gryuere on top. A curry requires way way way more skill than that to cook. Like I said. Good fish and chips is more skillfull than the dish they used. (I investigated it, its aparently swiss (hence Savoyard). Savoyard food is basic in the extreme. Raquette, Fondue, Tartiflette are the well known dishes from the region. Any of which can be cooked in about 10 minutes by almost anyone. I doubt the Cardoon is much different. Its not that the chefs on the program didnt cook it well that I am complaining about, most did, though one made it a soup, its the fact they use French dishes all the time due to the assumption that French food is somehow better and therefore a better test. It isnt. Thats my point, which I dont think you get. There is plenty of British food which is more relevant to the audience and requires skill to cook.
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So I am watching 'Professional Masterchef' and some Michel Roux chappie sets the BRITISH contestants the challenge of making a dish well known in LYON! So called, Cardon (looks like very dead cellery), Truffle, Marrow, and Gryuere. And thats ALL the dish consisted of! Apart from the fact that this is utterly irrelevant to British chefs just what the fuck is this god awfull mess supposed to taste like because quite frankly truffles taste of rotten wood, gryuere is no where near as good as cheddar for cooking with. Mwrrow bone is almost tasteless and steamed 'very dead cellery' isnt going to add very much more to the mix. But what really PISSES me off is tha fact that BRITISH chefs should be tested on BRITISH FOOD! Get them to make fish anc chips. Nice but of cod, well seasoned, brown beer batter, chips, mint and pea puree. When its good its sublime, and better than a lot of Franch crap believe me, and a REAL test of a BRITISH chef! This isnt the first time this French prick has done this. Last series he set the challenge of making acake that was invented to celebrate some bycicle race betweem Reims and Paris or some such back in 1912! I mean what is the fucking point? Does the twat think ANY of us have heard of it? French turd! What the fuck is wrojng with apple pie? Pinch of cinamon, and nutmeg, nice pastry, and home made ice cream. Done right its sublime, and a propper test of a BRITISH chef! Oh, and the French have absoloutely no comprehension of just how good mint is and what to do with it. Bloody pagans!
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So, good show huh?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Except that which we Brits call "curry" wouldn't be given the time of day by our Indian friends.
Why? In the UK we cook curries from recipies written by Indians? Indian restaurants are almost always owned by Indians (lets include Pakistan here for the sake of argument). Their curries might have been westernised, but dont forget, the famous Tika Masala, created in the UK, is now popular in India.
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fat_boy wrote:
Their curries might have been westernised
And there is the issue. If you were to ask our CP members, presently visiting UK or those who have visited the UK, from the Indian sub-continent they will tell you that it is a rather poor quality imitation of the real thing.
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So, good show huh?
:) I actually like it for the most part, its just this stupid insistence on testing chefs using obscure french recipes that really gets my goat. There have been some stunning professional chefs on the program who have utterly shocked the presenters with their imagination and talent. There have also been some very funny disasters, more so by the professionals, since they are supposed to know what they are doing. As a bit of a foodie I am always interested in techniques and recipes so I generally like watching theese kinds of programs (well, those that have decent cooking ijn them anyway)
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fat_boy wrote:
Their curries might have been westernised
And there is the issue. If you were to ask our CP members, presently visiting UK or those who have visited the UK, from the Indian sub-continent they will tell you that it is a rather poor quality imitation of the real thing.
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fat_boy wrote:
Their curries might have been westernised
And there is the issue. If you were to ask our CP members, presently visiting UK or those who have visited the UK, from the Indian sub-continent they will tell you that it is a rather poor quality imitation of the real thing.
You are right about the curries one finds in the average curry house. But, there are increasingly very high quality indian restaurants in the UK offering exactly the same kinds of dishes, of the same quality, as found in good restaurants in India. And if you want to make these dishes the recipes are readilly available (gotta find the good ones though). I have a good vook, and the results are truly superb. Way way better than what you get in an average curry house and far closer to what you get in India (I had the good fortune to spend two weeks in Hyderabad. The food was generally delicious)
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:) I actually like it for the most part, its just this stupid insistence on testing chefs using obscure french recipes that really gets my goat. There have been some stunning professional chefs on the program who have utterly shocked the presenters with their imagination and talent. There have also been some very funny disasters, more so by the professionals, since they are supposed to know what they are doing. As a bit of a foodie I am always interested in techniques and recipes so I generally like watching theese kinds of programs (well, those that have decent cooking ijn them anyway)
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I don't watch Master Chef. It's really popular in Australia, though - they had to postpone a prime ministerial debate because it would've coincided with what I think was the finale of Master Chef.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
Only eaten it once, but I quite enjoyed it.
:omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: You probably like 'Pieds au paquets' too!
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I don't watch Master Chef. It's really popular in Australia, though - they had to postpone a prime ministerial debate because it would've coincided with what I think was the finale of Master Chef.
I can imagine, Australias got into food a lot lately. When I was there it was like the UK. Steak, chips, meat pie, tomato soup, mashed potato. Basic. (Did you kow that your national dish, meat pie, mashed potato and mashed peas (a sort of pea sauce) originates fomr the east end of london where its called 'pie and liquor').
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I can imagine, Australias got into food a lot lately. When I was there it was like the UK. Steak, chips, meat pie, tomato soup, mashed potato. Basic. (Did you kow that your national dish, meat pie, mashed potato and mashed peas (a sort of pea sauce) originates fomr the east end of london where its called 'pie and liquor').
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No, I didn't know that. But I love a good pie, except for the feeling of the sauce scalding your mouth and oesophagus like a pyroclastic flow. X|
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Simon_Whale wrote:
how many high end restaurants do you see fish and chips?
In Padstow there is atleast one.
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fat_boy wrote:
You probably like 'Pieds au paquets' too!
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I never tried it. I draw the line at eating somethign that has walked around in pig shit for 2 years. As for the writers comment about 'fromage du tete', he fails to mention that it is actually brains. Thats somehting else you can cross off my list, but it is supposed to taste of cheese, and be reasonably textured to eat. Now, the thought of eating grey, cheesy, slightly firm stuff from a pig really doesnt float my boat.
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No, I didn't know that. But I love a good pie, except for the feeling of the sauce scalding your mouth and oesophagus like a pyroclastic flow. X|
You do eat it with mashed peas too dont you in Australia? As for heat, well, take it out of the microwave earlier! But yes, a good meat pie (in fact pies themselves are fairly unique to Britain and its colonkies. You never see them in France Belgium or Holland for example) is damn tasty. Chicken and muchroom, beef and mushroom, hmmmm, getting near lunch....
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I never tried it. I draw the line at eating somethign that has walked around in pig shit for 2 years. As for the writers comment about 'fromage du tete', he fails to mention that it is actually brains. Thats somehting else you can cross off my list, but it is supposed to taste of cheese, and be reasonably textured to eat. Now, the thought of eating grey, cheesy, slightly firm stuff from a pig really doesnt float my boat.
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fat_boy wrote:
fails to mention that it is actually brains
Yep, I ate cold sheep's brain when I lived in Turkey - not too bad but it does not have a great deal of flavour. I have not eaten eyes (yet)!
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You do eat it with mashed peas too dont you in Australia? As for heat, well, take it out of the microwave earlier! But yes, a good meat pie (in fact pies themselves are fairly unique to Britain and its colonkies. You never see them in France Belgium or Holland for example) is damn tasty. Chicken and muchroom, beef and mushroom, hmmmm, getting near lunch....
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fat_boy wrote:
You do eat it with mashed peas too dont you in Australia?
Occasionally. I prefer it sans peas.
fat_boy wrote:
As for heat, well, take it out of the microwave earlier!
Yes, well...
fat_boy wrote:
Chicken and muchroom, beef and mushroom, hmmmm, getting near lunch....
I hate mushrooms. I don't eat things that are related to athlete's foot. Cheese and bacon pies are the best, although I've had some good curry pies and stuff like that.