Now this is going to be interesting
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fat_boy wrote:
How do you know so much stuff?
Meh, I don't know that much. Every day I find out a little bit more about how ignorant I am.
fat_boy wrote:
Did Shakespere actually write what we knw today as Shakespere?
I think he did. There are very reasonable responses to all of the supposed problems with his life story.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Meh, I don't know that much. Every day I find out a little bit more about how ignorant I am.
The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. You've got the right attitude
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fat_boy wrote:
The sign of a truly intelligent person.
Meh.
fat_boy wrote:
Oh yes, I am sure he wrote the plays, but the exact text? Thats the question.
Oh. Well. I dunno.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Oh. Well. I dunno.
Aparently they were compiled after his death, from memory, but two actors. So its quite probable that huge chunks have gone missing, been changed, worded differently and so on. As it is there are at least three of his plays that never made it into text.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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I prefer the 'tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow...' sililoquy myself: To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury Signifying nothing. Whoever wrote that was a genius!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
And now, because I'm bored, a completely incorrect translation for pure amusement...
fat_boy wrote:
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Ugh, why can't it be Friday already?
fat_boy wrote:
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
Hey, that's not fair... My coworkers aren't really creeps...
fat_boy wrote:
To the last syllable of recorded time;
That would be "ime"
fat_boy wrote:
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death
Anyway... Yesterday, this guy lit himself on fire...
fat_boy wrote:
Out, out, brief candle!
The fire department tried to put him out...
fat_boy wrote:
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more.
But it didn't work. The guy just jumped around like an idiot, screaming in pain, and then died.
fat_boy wrote:
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
It was reported by Fox News. (Disclaimer: Yes, I know what the speech really means... This is supposed to be a joke... Laugh, you fools!)
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Oh. Well. I dunno.
Aparently they were compiled after his death, from memory, but two actors. So its quite probable that huge chunks have gone missing, been changed, worded differently and so on. As it is there are at least three of his plays that never made it into text.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Aparently they were compiled after his death, from memory, but two actors.
They were friends of his, though, I think.
fat_boy wrote:
So its quite probable that huge chunks have gone missing, been changed, worded differently and so on.
Yeah, quite possibly.
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fat_boy wrote:
Aparently they were compiled after his death, from memory, but two actors.
They were friends of his, though, I think.
fat_boy wrote:
So its quite probable that huge chunks have gone missing, been changed, worded differently and so on.
Yeah, quite possibly.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
They were friends of his, though, I think.
They would haver to be at the very least admirers. Aparently they went around asking actors who had been in his plays to recall what the could, and assembled what they ended up with. Did you look at the wiki link I sent you? What is odd is how the text changed so much from his first folio; It seems Shakespere has been undergoing a constant process of change.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
They were friends of his, though, I think.
They would haver to be at the very least admirers. Aparently they went around asking actors who had been in his plays to recall what the could, and assembled what they ended up with. Did you look at the wiki link I sent you? What is odd is how the text changed so much from his first folio; It seems Shakespere has been undergoing a constant process of change.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Did you look at the wiki link I sent you?
I did just then.
fat_boy wrote:
What is odd is how the text changed so much from his first folio; It seems Shakespere has been undergoing a constant process of change.
Yeah, it IS really different, huh. I like the modern version better, I think.
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fat_boy wrote:
Did you look at the wiki link I sent you?
I did just then.
fat_boy wrote:
What is odd is how the text changed so much from his first folio; It seems Shakespere has been undergoing a constant process of change.
Yeah, it IS really different, huh. I like the modern version better, I think.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Yeah, it IS really different, huh. I like the modern version better, I think.
Yeah, now whats interesting is that the older version is more like modern English. So, all this talk of 'how people spoke in Shakesperes time' is based on what is probably the affectation of whoever changed the text from its original to what we have today. ie, Shakespere never DID write in that way, and HIS English was not so different from ours (which bourne out by Caxton), and that what we think of Shakespere poetic style originated much later, and from someone else.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Yeah, it IS really different, huh. I like the modern version better, I think.
Yeah, now whats interesting is that the older version is more like modern English. So, all this talk of 'how people spoke in Shakesperes time' is based on what is probably the affectation of whoever changed the text from its original to what we have today. ie, Shakespere never DID write in that way, and HIS English was not so different from ours (which bourne out by Caxton), and that what we think of Shakespere poetic style originated much later, and from someone else.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
It's not as bad as the Bible - it has somehow managed to convince millions of people that Jesus spoke Elizabethan English. :laugh:
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It's not as bad as the Bible - it has somehow managed to convince millions of people that Jesus spoke Elizabethan English. :laugh:
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It's not as bad as the Bible - it has somehow managed to convince millions of people that Jesus spoke Elizabethan English. :laugh:
And hurled his halo like a boomerang, and had a public access show in South Park, Colorado :) "Believe in me and ye shall find peace... Caller, you're on the air!"
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Did'st he naet? :) Oh, and he had blue eyes and blond hair. Just like all the semitic tribes! (Gufaw gufaw)
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And he was American, and he existed.
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And hurled his halo like a boomerang, and had a public access show in South Park, Colorado :) "Believe in me and ye shall find peace... Caller, you're on the air!"
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Haha, I love that show. :laugh: :)
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And he was American, and he existed.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
And he was American, and he existed.
:omg: :wtf: He was BRITISH! Thats why we dont have Earth Quakes. Its because God is British. He wouldne want to shit on his own doorstep now would he!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
And he was American, and he existed.
:omg: :wtf: He was BRITISH! Thats why we dont have Earth Quakes. Its because God is British. He wouldne want to shit on his own doorstep now would he!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Sounds like the kind of crap CSS comes out with. Its complete crap. The guy is mad.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Nah, CSS is just a moron. Gene Ray elevates madness to a kind of artistry.
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Nah, CSS is just a moron. Gene Ray elevates madness to a kind of artistry.
I dont know how you find this kind of crap on the net. Nothing but page after page of mad ranting, insults, and constant affirmation of the same simple message. Sounds like a Global Warming article almost. :)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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I dont know how you find this kind of crap on the net. Nothing but page after page of mad ranting, insults, and constant affirmation of the same simple message. Sounds like a Global Warming article almost. :)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
I dont know how you find this kind of crap on the net.
He's quite the Internet celebrity. I don't actually mind Gene Ray. I mean, he's a loony and an idiot, but he's basically harmless. Someone like this[^], however, is far worse simply because homeopathy is something people genuinely believe in. Her idiocy is leading desperate people out to sea to die.
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fat_boy wrote:
I dont know how you find this kind of crap on the net.
He's quite the Internet celebrity. I don't actually mind Gene Ray. I mean, he's a loony and an idiot, but he's basically harmless. Someone like this[^], however, is far worse simply because homeopathy is something people genuinely believe in. Her idiocy is leading desperate people out to sea to die.
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Its good for the species if stupid people kill themselves so dont worry.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
She's just so completely ignorant of basic mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology... :mad::mad::mad: The first time I saw that I was literally writhing in my seat. I actually feel much stupider for having watched it.