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  • L lordofawesome

    I believe i understand what you are saying, but i don't think the above solution is a good solution to that problem.

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    Lost User
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    It sure does its job, wich itself is not really complicated. So why don't you just post your more fitting version?

    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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      It sure does its job, wich itself is not really complicated. So why don't you just post your more fitting version?

      A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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      lordofawesome
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      I'd probably go for this approach

      /**
      Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
      modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
      and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
      modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
      Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
      modes has a refresh rate of
      DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
      */
      public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
      DisplayMode mode2)
      {
      boolean isEqualDimention = (mode1.getWidth() == mode2.getWidth() && mode1.getHeight() == mode2.getHeight());
      boolean isEqualDepth = (mode1.getBitDepth() == mode2.getBitDepth());
      boolean isEqualRefreshRate = (mode1.getRefreshRate() == mode2.getRefreshRate());

      return (isEqualDimention && isEqualDepth && isEqualRefreshRate);
      }
      

      I think this is much more readable and much simpler.

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      • L lordofawesome

        I'd probably go for this approach

        /**
        Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
        modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
        and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
        modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
        Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
        modes has a refresh rate of
        DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
        */
        public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
        DisplayMode mode2)
        {
        boolean isEqualDimention = (mode1.getWidth() == mode2.getWidth() && mode1.getHeight() == mode2.getHeight());
        boolean isEqualDepth = (mode1.getBitDepth() == mode2.getBitDepth());
        boolean isEqualRefreshRate = (mode1.getRefreshRate() == mode2.getRefreshRate());

        return (isEqualDimention && isEqualDepth && isEqualRefreshRate);
        }
        

        I think this is much more readable and much simpler.

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        Lost User
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        Nice and well, but what happened to the BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN business? Including those two will take away some of the neatness again. And what if we don't just want to check three things? What if there are 20? Then you will have 20 variables which are used in one fat term at the end.

        A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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        • L lordofawesome

          I'd probably go for this approach

          /**
          Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
          modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
          and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
          modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
          Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
          modes has a refresh rate of
          DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
          */
          public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
          DisplayMode mode2)
          {
          boolean isEqualDimention = (mode1.getWidth() == mode2.getWidth() && mode1.getHeight() == mode2.getHeight());
          boolean isEqualDepth = (mode1.getBitDepth() == mode2.getBitDepth());
          boolean isEqualRefreshRate = (mode1.getRefreshRate() == mode2.getRefreshRate());

          return (isEqualDimention && isEqualDepth && isEqualRefreshRate);
          }
          

          I think this is much more readable and much simpler.

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          Stryder_1
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          Hi, One reason for the original approach is it reduces processing time, which is of primary importance for a game engine. Your proposal will require the function to process each variable before returning while the original will check the most likely areas of failure first, then return -- eliminating the need to process the further checks.

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            Nice and well, but what happened to the BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN business? Including those two will take away some of the neatness again. And what if we don't just want to check three things? What if there are 20? Then you will have 20 variables which are used in one fat term at the end.

            A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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            lordofawesome
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            I believe BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN don't need to be there. they are constants. even if they should be there, it still would be a lot cleaner. I'm not saying this IS the best approach i'm just saying how i think is the cleanest solution. Even with 50 things to check it's much more readable using variables then doing some if structures :p

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              Hi, One reason for the original approach is it reduces processing time, which is of primary importance for a game engine. Your proposal will require the function to process each variable before returning while the original will check the most likely areas of failure first, then return -- eliminating the need to process the further checks.

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              Lost User
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              Runtime behavior would be worth a look for any code executed inside the rendering loop. Display modes usually are checked beforehand, so yes, technically this would be faster, but the effect would be unnoticable.

              A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                Hi, One reason for the original approach is it reduces processing time, which is of primary importance for a game engine. Your proposal will require the function to process each variable before returning while the original will check the most likely areas of failure first, then return -- eliminating the need to process the further checks.

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                lordofawesome
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                Assuming it really is faster, this method isn't really part of the engine itself. it's not like this function will be run over and over again. Me personally, i wouldn't compromise readability over such a small performance increasement. But i'm severely starting to doubt myself, a lot of people seem to disagree this is a codehorror :s

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                • L lordofawesome

                  I'd probably go for this approach

                  /**
                  Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
                  modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
                  and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
                  modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
                  Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
                  modes has a refresh rate of
                  DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
                  */
                  public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
                  DisplayMode mode2)
                  {
                  boolean isEqualDimention = (mode1.getWidth() == mode2.getWidth() && mode1.getHeight() == mode2.getHeight());
                  boolean isEqualDepth = (mode1.getBitDepth() == mode2.getBitDepth());
                  boolean isEqualRefreshRate = (mode1.getRefreshRate() == mode2.getRefreshRate());

                  return (isEqualDimention && isEqualDepth && isEqualRefreshRate);
                  }
                  

                  I think this is much more readable and much simpler.

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                  David Skelly
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                  What you have posted here is exactly what DisplayMode's equals method does, so you could replace the whole lot with:

                  return mode1.equals(mode2);

                  You can't get much simpler than that. But that is not what the original code does. The original code takes BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN into account, which your code and the equals method does not.

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                  • L lordofawesome

                    I believe BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN don't need to be there. they are constants. even if they should be there, it still would be a lot cleaner. I'm not saying this IS the best approach i'm just saying how i think is the cleanest solution. Even with 50 things to check it's much more readable using variables then doing some if structures :p

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                    Lost User
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                    Both may be constants, but they do play an important role here. Your version would wrongly return false in some cases when those two constants appear. Besides that, your approach works and is neat enough. Unfortunately things are not always as simple as they are here. This can very quickly turn into a bowl of spaghetti and some compromises may have to be made. Unfortunately. Anyway, the original version still is not so bad that it's a horror.

                    A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                    • L lordofawesome

                      I believe BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN don't need to be there. they are constants. even if they should be there, it still would be a lot cleaner. I'm not saying this IS the best approach i'm just saying how i think is the cleanest solution. Even with 50 things to check it's much more readable using variables then doing some if structures :p

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                      josda1000
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                      lordofawesome wrote:

                      I believe BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN don't need to be there.

                      According to the original function comments, that is incorrect. You can't just change the premise of the code on a whim. You can make it cleaner in any way you feel you want (even though it worked), but you can't change the unit requirements after it has already been in use like that.

                      lordofawesome wrote:

                      even if they should be there, it still would be a lot cleaner.

                      Fine, but you must include those constants if they were already there. incorporate them into your code.

                      lordofawesome wrote:

                      Even with 50 things to check it's much more readable using variables then doing some if structures

                      Some would agree with you, some would disagree. Let's put it this way: if someone wrote code that works, leave it alone. Why reinvent the wheel?

                      Josh Davis
                      This is what plays in my head when I finish projects.

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                      • D David Skelly

                        What you have posted here is exactly what DisplayMode's equals method does, so you could replace the whole lot with:

                        return mode1.equals(mode2);

                        You can't get much simpler than that. But that is not what the original code does. The original code takes BIT_DEPTH_MULTI and REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN into account, which your code and the equals method does not.

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                        lordofawesome
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                        But aren't these simply constants? So the value would still have to be the same right? if so, this would mean that you don't need to take them into account. Or am i missing the point :s

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                        • L lordofawesome

                          This is a piece of code i took from a book i read about java game development.

                          /**
                          Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
                          modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
                          and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
                          modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
                          Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
                          modes has a refresh rate of
                          DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
                          */
                          public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
                          DisplayMode mode2)
                          {
                          if (mode1.getWidth() != mode2.getWidth() ||
                          mode1.getHeight() != mode2.getHeight())
                          {
                          return false;
                          }

                              if (mode1.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT\_DEPTH\_MULTI &&
                                  mode2.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT\_DEPTH\_MULTI &&
                                  mode1.getBitDepth() != mode2.getBitDepth())
                              {
                                  return false;
                              }
                          
                              if (mode1.getRefreshRate() !=
                                  DisplayMode.REFRESH\_RATE\_UNKNOWN &&
                                  mode2.getRefreshRate() !=
                                  DisplayMode.REFRESH\_RATE\_UNKNOWN &&
                                  mode1.getRefreshRate() != mode2.getRefreshRate())
                               {
                                   return false;
                               }
                          
                               return true;
                          }
                          
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                          lordofawesome
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                          I think this is a code horror because all this could be done with 1 statement, this is the most performant way to do this AND with proper indenting the readability isn't compromised.

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                          • L lordofawesome

                            But aren't these simply constants? So the value would still have to be the same right? if so, this would mean that you don't need to take them into account. Or am i missing the point :s

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                            David Skelly
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                            Yes, they are constants, but you do need to take them into account. Consider the following:

                            if (mode1.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI &&
                            mode2.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI &&
                            mode1.getBitDepth() != mode2.getBitDepth())

                            This is saying: - if either mode1 or mode2 has BIT_DEPTH_MULTI then I can ignore the bit depth, and I can consider that these two display modes match no matter what bit depth they have. - if neither mode1 nor mode2 have BIT_DEPTH_MULTI then I need to check that the bit depth matches. This is different from the equals method, which says that they are only equal if they both have exactly the same bit depth, whether that is BIT_DEPTH_MULTI or not.

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                              Yes, they are constants, but you do need to take them into account. Consider the following:

                              if (mode1.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI &&
                              mode2.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI &&
                              mode1.getBitDepth() != mode2.getBitDepth())

                              This is saying: - if either mode1 or mode2 has BIT_DEPTH_MULTI then I can ignore the bit depth, and I can consider that these two display modes match no matter what bit depth they have. - if neither mode1 nor mode2 have BIT_DEPTH_MULTI then I need to check that the bit depth matches. This is different from the equals method, which says that they are only equal if they both have exactly the same bit depth, whether that is BIT_DEPTH_MULTI or not.

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                              lordofawesome
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                              ty for the clarification it appears that these need to be added to the line also. Though this changes nothing to the structural fail of the code

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                              • L lordofawesome

                                Assuming it really is faster, this method isn't really part of the engine itself. it's not like this function will be run over and over again. Me personally, i wouldn't compromise readability over such a small performance increasement. But i'm severely starting to doubt myself, a lot of people seem to disagree this is a codehorror :s

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                                Stryder_1
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                                Don't fret about posting. Most of the horror posts don't seem to generate this much discussion. I see that as a good thing.

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                                  Don't fret about posting. Most of the horror posts don't seem to generate this much discussion. I see that as a good thing.

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                                  lordofawesome
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                                  Ye i like the activity on this forum :D

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                                  • L lordofawesome

                                    This is a piece of code i took from a book i read about java game development.

                                    /**
                                    Determines if two display modes "match". Two display
                                    modes match if they have the same resolution, bit depth,
                                    and refresh rate. The bit depth is ignored if one of the
                                    modes has a bit depth of DisplayMode.BIT_DEPTH_MULTI.
                                    Likewise, the refresh rate is ignored if one of the
                                    modes has a refresh rate of
                                    DisplayMode.REFRESH_RATE_UNKNOWN.
                                    */
                                    public boolean displayModesMatch(DisplayMode mode1,
                                    DisplayMode mode2)
                                    {
                                    if (mode1.getWidth() != mode2.getWidth() ||
                                    mode1.getHeight() != mode2.getHeight())
                                    {
                                    return false;
                                    }

                                        if (mode1.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT\_DEPTH\_MULTI &&
                                            mode2.getBitDepth() != DisplayMode.BIT\_DEPTH\_MULTI &&
                                            mode1.getBitDepth() != mode2.getBitDepth())
                                        {
                                            return false;
                                        }
                                    
                                        if (mode1.getRefreshRate() !=
                                            DisplayMode.REFRESH\_RATE\_UNKNOWN &&
                                            mode2.getRefreshRate() !=
                                            DisplayMode.REFRESH\_RATE\_UNKNOWN &&
                                            mode1.getRefreshRate() != mode2.getRefreshRate())
                                         {
                                             return false;
                                         }
                                    
                                         return true;
                                    }
                                    
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                                    I was always told to only have one return statement in a procedure, so I can see this being a horror.

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                                      I was always told to only have one return statement in a procedure, so I can see this being a horror.

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                                      OriginalGriff
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                                      Rules are made to be broken! Especially when you know why you are breaking them :-D (That's why C# still has a "goto" but students are told not to use it.)

                                      Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        It sure does its job, wich itself is not really complicated. So why don't you just post your more fitting version?

                                        A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'. I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.

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                                        supercat9
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                                        CDP1802 wrote:

                                        It sure does its job, wich itself is not really complicated. So why don't you just post your more fitting version?

                                        How about creating a function to check if any two of the three parameters are equal? Calling that function with a parameter from each display mode along with the "matches anything" constant would perform three 'equals' tests.

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                                          Rules are made to be broken! Especially when you know why you are breaking them :-D (That's why C# still has a "goto" but students are told not to use it.)

                                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          That's why C# still has a "goto" but students are told not to use it.

                                          I always thought it was because the developer who stole modified the C++ compiler forgot to take that part out.

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