Att: S.Rod
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I was not keen to perpetuate this, nor would I normally post a private email publically, but when people write to me and use a fake reply address, I am left with no other means of reply. Here is my reply to the email you sent me this morning. Use a real email address please in future. I note however that this means you are well aware of the fact that you don't even need to use a real email address to create a CP account, one more reason that your recent rants are a pile of manure. Time to smell what you are shovelling. From: .S.Rod. (not_a_MS_brainwashed@hotmail.com) >i understand you pay attention to what's going on here at codeproject, >and are willing to make it further user-friendly or whatever you might >think of, but if things i do are that minor, as you are telling me in >your post, why do you make it such a big deal then ? Because you've set out to hurt the site that I call home, and done it in an arrogant and self centred manner. >>You had your chance to comment on the changes anyhow, and you know it. >?Why "had" ? Well, Chris' comments are still a matter of public record, had you looked you would have found them. Were you a regular participant in the site you would have seen them. You could have reopened the discussion in the lounge, but instead you decided on this vendetta. Your posts to your articles are childish and pathetic, and seek to create doubt and uncertainty. They make no sense at all. >Why not "you have your chance to comment" as obviously anyone can have >words to say about it.Yes, i remember i have seen that thread in the >lounge but to me it is obvious that bandwidth usage is not directly >related to the creation of a user account. If it's so obvious to you, why do you remain unable to explain why, except to make enigmatic statements ? If you saw the thread, you've been lying from day one about not being given a chance to comment on this change. You still have not provided any alternatives, simply claimed that they exist. >that's from what i remember why i didn't get it at all, that day. >am not i entitled to post any comment related to an article content >which in turn is under my own rights (as it is written in the bottom >right of each article? ). Yes, you are entitled. But you are NOT entitled to claim that you take no responsibility for the effects of peopl running your code. Your liability if you have written something destructive remains despite those comments. Either way, am I not equally entitled to comment when I f
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I was not keen to perpetuate this, nor would I normally post a private email publically, but when people write to me and use a fake reply address, I am left with no other means of reply. Here is my reply to the email you sent me this morning. Use a real email address please in future. I note however that this means you are well aware of the fact that you don't even need to use a real email address to create a CP account, one more reason that your recent rants are a pile of manure. Time to smell what you are shovelling. From: .S.Rod. (not_a_MS_brainwashed@hotmail.com) >i understand you pay attention to what's going on here at codeproject, >and are willing to make it further user-friendly or whatever you might >think of, but if things i do are that minor, as you are telling me in >your post, why do you make it such a big deal then ? Because you've set out to hurt the site that I call home, and done it in an arrogant and self centred manner. >>You had your chance to comment on the changes anyhow, and you know it. >?Why "had" ? Well, Chris' comments are still a matter of public record, had you looked you would have found them. Were you a regular participant in the site you would have seen them. You could have reopened the discussion in the lounge, but instead you decided on this vendetta. Your posts to your articles are childish and pathetic, and seek to create doubt and uncertainty. They make no sense at all. >Why not "you have your chance to comment" as obviously anyone can have >words to say about it.Yes, i remember i have seen that thread in the >lounge but to me it is obvious that bandwidth usage is not directly >related to the creation of a user account. If it's so obvious to you, why do you remain unable to explain why, except to make enigmatic statements ? If you saw the thread, you've been lying from day one about not being given a chance to comment on this change. You still have not provided any alternatives, simply claimed that they exist. >that's from what i remember why i didn't get it at all, that day. >am not i entitled to post any comment related to an article content >which in turn is under my own rights (as it is written in the bottom >right of each article? ). Yes, you are entitled. But you are NOT entitled to claim that you take no responsibility for the effects of peopl running your code. Your liability if you have written something destructive remains despite those comments. Either way, am I not equally entitled to comment when I f
Hasn't this gone way out of proportions? I'm not taking any sides in this matter (mainly because I'm not sure what all the fuss is all about), but I can't help but noticing this "CP vendetta" going on, and frankly it bothers me a little. Both of you have written a fair share of articles, and I suspect many people are grateful for it (me included). Why do you have to get aggressive on eachother in public? It doesn't really give a cheery image of CP. Please stop fighting, pretty please? :) -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
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Hasn't this gone way out of proportions? I'm not taking any sides in this matter (mainly because I'm not sure what all the fuss is all about), but I can't help but noticing this "CP vendetta" going on, and frankly it bothers me a little. Both of you have written a fair share of articles, and I suspect many people are grateful for it (me included). Why do you have to get aggressive on eachother in public? It doesn't really give a cheery image of CP. Please stop fighting, pretty please? :) -- standing so tall, the ground behind no trespassers, on every floor a garden swing, and another door she makes it clear, that everything is hers A place of abode, not far from here, Ms. Van de Veer
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Why do you have to get aggressive on eachother in public? Because he sends me emails with an invalid return address, like a little girl. If he does not want me to reply, he should not write. I would have prefered to keep this private, I agree it does not present a good image. Neither does the sort of stuff he has been posting on the foot of his articles, which is my beef in the first place. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Please stop fighting, pretty please? Happy to. If S.Rod has the guts to give me a real email address, I will be happy to discuss my feelings directly with him and leave the CP forums out of it. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Why do you have to get aggressive on eachother in public? Because he sends me emails with an invalid return address, like a little girl. If he does not want me to reply, he should not write. I would have prefered to keep this private, I agree it does not present a good image. Neither does the sort of stuff he has been posting on the foot of his articles, which is my beef in the first place. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Please stop fighting, pretty please? Happy to. If S.Rod has the guts to give me a real email address, I will be happy to discuss my feelings directly with him and leave the CP forums out of it. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? You don't have to proof anything. You won't win this fight. You won't turn a moron into a good citizen. Most "real" CPians already made up their mind about .S.Rod., and about you. Be the clever guy. Ignore him. It takes a day or two, then you will laugh at this. Peter :rose: P.S. If he writes again, post his mail in the soapbox. We want our share of the fun :cool: [edit] P.P.S. And get a sighist, dammit! ;) [/edit]
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Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? You don't have to proof anything. You won't win this fight. You won't turn a moron into a good citizen. Most "real" CPians already made up their mind about .S.Rod., and about you. Be the clever guy. Ignore him. It takes a day or two, then you will laugh at this. Peter :rose: P.S. If he writes again, post his mail in the soapbox. We want our share of the fun :cool: [edit] P.P.S. And get a sighist, dammit! ;) [/edit]
skulls don't kiss for an explanation - wait for the vacation photos! [sighist]
peterchen wrote: Be the clever guy. Ignore him. I admit I am too emotional about things like this. How DARE he write to me and not provide me with the right of reply ? I wish I could have replied without dragging it into here again, and I guess I should have left him to be an idiot, alone, but having written my reply, my reaction was to try and make sure he sees it. What sort of author is he, if he does not provide an address, so he is sure to know when people ask him a question or comment ? peterchen wrote: If he writes again, post his mail in the soapbox. We want our share of the fun LOL. Well, I felt a twinge about posting his email to me, I couldn't go so far as to post his address here. To a gay porn mailing list, maybe.... (that's a joke, BTW) peterchen wrote: And get a sighist, dammit! Get a what ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
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Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? You don't have to proof anything. You won't win this fight. You won't turn a moron into a good citizen. Most "real" CPians already made up their mind about .S.Rod., and about you. Be the clever guy. Ignore him. It takes a day or two, then you will laugh at this. Peter :rose: P.S. If he writes again, post his mail in the soapbox. We want our share of the fun :cool: [edit] P.P.S. And get a sighist, dammit! ;) [/edit]
skulls don't kiss for an explanation - wait for the vacation photos! [sighist]
peterchen wrote: Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? Because he is an ungrateful bastard and needs to be taught a lesson. I don't want to idly sit by while some jerk says horrid, untrue things about CP. There are newbies to think of who will think he is telling the truth and they need to be told "No, he is just ungrateful." And I will bet if you were Christian here you would also be arguing right back. We are all very capable of being rational about other peoples situations, but never our own.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaColin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
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peterchen wrote: Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? Because he is an ungrateful bastard and needs to be taught a lesson. I don't want to idly sit by while some jerk says horrid, untrue things about CP. There are newbies to think of who will think he is telling the truth and they need to be told "No, he is just ungrateful." And I will bet if you were Christian here you would also be arguing right back. We are all very capable of being rational about other peoples situations, but never our own.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaColin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
Paul Watson wrote: Because he is an ungrateful bastard Can't we all just get along??? Just kidding. I can't stand the guy. He went from Dr. Jekyl to Mr. Hyde in the 3 or 4 months he's been a member.
Jason Henderson
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peterchen wrote: Why waste so much emotional energy on someone you consider a moron? Because he is an ungrateful bastard and needs to be taught a lesson. I don't want to idly sit by while some jerk says horrid, untrue things about CP. There are newbies to think of who will think he is telling the truth and they need to be told "No, he is just ungrateful." And I will bet if you were Christian here you would also be arguing right back. We are all very capable of being rational about other peoples situations, but never our own.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaColin Davies wrote: ...can you imagine a John Simmons stalker !
pointing a newbie out to one of his posts will easily adjust the newbie's pov. Paul Watson wrote: We are all very capable of being rational about other peoples situations, but never our own. So true. Just I've fought back once to much. It always ended with a frustrating feeling of a minor victory, or the knowledge that I'm right and he's an asshole. I consider it more fun now to be "Have a nice day" (american style), and let him rant against nothing. Some people get really weird when there's no counterpressure anymore :cool: I am sure the CPian "core" stands against .S.Rod's attitude, but I'm not sure if everybody & me supports Christian when he goes far out of (or on) his way. And I don't know if CP really benefits if Christian gets .S.Rod to request withdrawal of all his articles. Pig Pen ;)
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peterchen wrote: Be the clever guy. Ignore him. I admit I am too emotional about things like this. How DARE he write to me and not provide me with the right of reply ? I wish I could have replied without dragging it into here again, and I guess I should have left him to be an idiot, alone, but having written my reply, my reaction was to try and make sure he sees it. What sort of author is he, if he does not provide an address, so he is sure to know when people ask him a question or comment ? peterchen wrote: If he writes again, post his mail in the soapbox. We want our share of the fun LOL. Well, I felt a twinge about posting his email to me, I couldn't go so far as to post his address here. To a gay porn mailing list, maybe.... (that's a joke, BTW) peterchen wrote: And get a sighist, dammit! Get a what ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002
Christian, it's absolutely ok to drag it into here if he writes you "anonymously", and I know the anger. Just: rebuttal is best served with a cold smile, on the point of a stiletto. Christian Graus wrote: Get a what ? [sighist] Or if you can't decide which you like, rotate them weekly. Nothing serious, just on my quichotic fight for a "one sig per person" rule.
skulls don't kiss for an explanation - wait for the vacation photos! [sighist]